JFK Files

GM228

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/921716470140325889

So Trump will open up the JFK files (how nice of him as they were legally to be declassified next week anyway), is it a diversion and would anything in them really surprise us do we think?

branie2

I hope there will be revelations of a conspiracy

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Who can say, until we actually see what's in them?

longshanks

Classic deflection from Donny.

Cheerful Spring

GM228 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/921716470140325889

So Trump will open up the JFK files (how nice of him as they were legally to be declassified next week anyway), is it a diversion and would anything in them really surprise us?

The JFK files were scheduled to release October 26. The President has a right to refuse for national security reasons. Some files got released a few months back. Previously unknown information Lee Harvey Oswald, it claimed, met the Russian Head of KGB area for Sabotage and Assassination, in Mexico, 8 weeks prior to killing of John F Kennedy. This could be a Soviet plot to kill the President or just odd meeting that nobody knows what got discussed?

A Little Pony

Everyone knows his own government killed him. Well done to Trump.

The_Valeyard

See nothing wrong with that tweet. Generating interest in an important historical event.

frag420

My money is on it being John Malkovich...

corner of hells

Is it the aircraft carrier ?
I think that'd be more interesting.

brevity

A Little Pony wrote: »

Everyone knows his own government killed him. Well done to Trump.

They were being released next week anyway...

For Forks Sake

Trump, as per usual, is trying to claim credit for things that are none of his doing. Those files were long since scheduled to be released this month.

https://twitter.com/edkrassen/status/921745573778284544

http://time.com/4606082/jfk-assassination-secrets/

RobertKK

They are scheduled for release but it is the president who can decide to keep classified material classified if the president so wishes.

jaykay74

A Little Pony wrote: »

Everyone knows his own government killed him. Well done to Trump.

Well done for what?

Cheerful Spring

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The JFK files were scheduled to release October 26. The President has a right to refuse for national security reasons. Some files got released a few months back. Previously unknown information Lee Harvey Oswald, it claimed, met the Russian Head of KGB area for Sabotage and Assassination, in Mexico, 8 weeks prior to killing of John F Kennedy. This could be a Soviet plot to kill the President or just odd meeting that nobody knows what got discussed?

If it's true that the Soviets were involved in his assassination, would be kinda ironic. No doubt the media will note that they went from killing US Presidents to electing them...

yew_tree

It is not a diversion tactic as previously mentioned, the files were due to be released BUT the President could have withheld them just like Obama, Bush and Clinton before him.

I don't think we will ever know the full truth....anything concrete would have been destroyed years ago. One smoking gun is Lee Harvey's Tax returns...still withheld under the "national security" clause.

I have recently begun studying the Bobby Kennedy assassination which is even more bizarre.

brevity

jaykay74 wrote: »

Well done for what?

Distracting everyone as per usual.

The man is the very definition of misdirection.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The JFK files were scheduled to release October 26. The President has a right to refuse for national security reasons. Some files got released a few months back. Previously unknown information Lee Harvey Oswald, it claimed, met the Russian Head of KGB area for Sabotage and Assassination, in Mexico, 8 weeks prior to killing of John F Kennedy. This could be a Soviet plot to kill the President or just odd meeting that nobody knows what got discussed?

If that is true, it would be the single biggest indicator of who was involved in pulling the strings behind Kennedy's assassination.

If the head of KGB active measures is meeting someone, it isn't to to discuss poetry.

tomwaterford

These could make interesting reading?

Billy86

So files that were going to be released anyway unless the President wished to block it pending further information, will be released anyway unless the President wishes to block it pending further information.

BBDBB

JFK died before I was born, so although I studied him as a historical character, can't say I am that bothered by whatever is revealed over 50 years after his death

And I suppose that's the point, what would have been a massive scandal and the source of much media hype and debate when revealed will cause barely a ripple today

The interesting thing to consider is what's going on in recent years that is quashed and hidden, stuff that we would be outraged about but we are kept in the dark about.....but that way lies tin foil hats

trashcan

I seriously doubt that anything really incriminating would have been a)written down in the first place, or b) left lying around for so long.

branie2

The Garrison family will be very interested

The_Kew_Tour

Trump what a donkey.

Mother of Hell how in love of mankind did it come to this.

ziggy

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The_Kew_Tour

Unless it shows up who Babushka lady was and film it wont be of interest:P

Canis Lupus

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Trump what a donkey.

Mother of Hell how in love of mankind did it come to this.

I like how he has to mention the fact that he's president in his tweet

The_Kew_Tour

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I like how he has to mention the fact that he's president in his tweet

I say he actually cant believe he is President. Keeps having to remind himself.:pac:

Agent Coulson

Can't wait for the Oliver Stone Trump film.

branie2

Bit of a long shot question, but has anyone here ever read the Warren Report?

Erik Shin

It's times like this we know that aliens have never visited and that area 57 is all a load of bull...
I mean..if aliens has visited this planet...do your think that Trump could keep his mouth shut about it?

Richard Hillman

Bush Sr: Release the JFK Files
Clinton: Release the JFK Files
Bush Jr: Release the JFK Files
Obama: Release the JFK Files
Trumps: OMG total deflection

Cheerful Spring

Roger Stone who is a a friend of Trump claims the documents will show Oswald was a CIA spy? This is his claim and he does not say if Trump told him this?

branie2

The anniversary is a month from today

WHIP IT!

The feigned outrage of boards users at every single little thing that Trump lad does is hilarious 😂

Kermit.de.frog

WHIP IT! wrote: »

The feigned outrage of boards users at every single little thing that Trump lad does is hilarious ��

The US establishment knows Trump is mentally unstable and a sick man. He is not the decision maker and has not been for some months now.

WHIP IT!

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

The US establishment knows Trump is mentally unstable and a sick man. He is not the decision maker and has not been for some months now.

Is any US President ever 'the' Decision Maker?

Jamiekelly

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Is any US President ever 'the' Decision Maker?

Yes.

Kermit.de.frog

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Is any US President ever 'the' Decision Maker?

Yes, but Trump is not a well man. He is mentally unfit.

A fit President has full decision making including war if needs be.

Trump does not. That has been removed from him in the national interest. The Chief of Staff, John Kelly, calls the shots. Not Trump.

They don't announce this publicly for the imbecile Trump voter of course.

Kermit.de.frog

And just to say - people thought this was a normal press conference by Obama - it was not. This was a well orchestrated warning to all Americans that this man is not fit before the election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16KtYaTooQU

The administration knew the chaos a Trump administration posed.

We could talk about the files, or talk about the irrelevant sitting President who happens to be not blocking their release.

Odd. You'd think Ireland's historical attachment to JFK would have brought the focus there but nope. It's all about Trump.

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We could talk about the files, or talk about the irrelevant sitting President who happens to be not blocking their release.

Odd. You'd think Ireland's historical attachment to JFK would have brought the focus there but nope. It's all about Trump.

Of all the things to critise him for (and there are plenty),

This seems to be completely pointless and heading into boy who cried wolf territory

tomwaterford

tomwaterford wrote: »

Of all the things to critise him for (and there are plenty),

This seems to be completely pointless and heading into boy who cried wolf territory

That was firmly established with the Russia dossier. Is it any wonder he still has supporters. Why on earth would they assume everything else hasn't been overblown.

I understand the irony that I'm now talking about Trump.

WHIP IT!

Deleted User wrote: »

We could talk about the files, or talk about the irrelevant sitting President who happens to be not blocking their release.

Odd. You'd think Ireland's historical attachment to JFK would have brought the focus there but nope. It's all about Trump.

It's fashion, innit. You're at nuthin these days if you're not drinkin gin with loadsa fruit in it, practising Mindfulness and givin out about Trump... hey remember that time yer man threw paper towels to people? What a Monster!

Irish Guitarist

What's with your man posting about 15 gifs of a JFK speech about racism? Is that supposed to be a dig at Trump and how he's a racist because of his speech about not beating the shit out of 'Nazis'?

https://twitter.com/yourltldogtoo/status/921737141599825920

It would be mildly interesting to read the files but five minutes later I'll have forgotten about it.

Erik Shin

Would we believe what was written in the files anyways...there was a huge hatred for Russia and communism in the US at that time, I'm sure if Oswald had ever worn a red t-shirt they'd have linked him to the KGB somehow

branie2

Back and to the left

MadYaker

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Trump, as per usual, is trying to claim credit for things that are none of his doing. Those files were long since scheduled to be released this month.

https://twitter.com/edkrassen/status/921745573778284544

http://time.com/4606082/jfk-assassination-secrets/

Trump isn't trying to claim credit for this, read Trumps own tweet on it. All he said was he will be allowing the scheduled declasification to go ahead, he could stop it if he wanted to. I'm all in favour of bashing Trump but what you've said above is inaccurate. If you start using half truths and taking things out of context to imply a different meaning then were no better than Trump and his idiot supporters.

I wonder how much of these files will be redacted?

I suspect Trump is hoping this will distract the media and everyone else from the other failings of his administration, specifically the controversy surrounding Niger. I also think that the CIA probably don't want this info to be declassified so Trump sees it as a good way to put the boot into them.

yew_tree

The KGB and French Intelligence both conducted their own investigations and concluded LBJ was involved. There were so many that wanted the Kennedy administration ended from the Mafia, Big Texas Oil, CIA to LBJ himself.

Hande hoche!

Wonder will Ted Cruz's father make an appearance in the files?

Cheerful Spring

yew_tree wrote: »

The KGB and French Intelligence both conducted their own investigations and concluded LBJ was involved. There were so many that wanted the Kennedy administration ended from the Mafia, Big Texas Oil, CIA to LBJ himself.

Enough released information has came out out to conclude Oswald had connections with government people. How deep the connections go nobody truly knows. Oswald was spending his time with Cuban exile groups months before he shot Kennedy and it's well known those groups are financed and managed by the Central Intelligence agency. Their aim was to overthrow Castro by force. Oswald could also be a double agent infiltrating the Cuban group to give himself an ally and help him logistically carry out the assassination. Oswald probably had accomplices helping him ( extra shooter) or just people supplying him with money, financing, or place to get away and escape?

I think the files will likely show a Cuban/CIA connection. I have my doubts it will link people working at the CIA with the shooting?) If it does explosive.

yew_tree

George de Mohrenschildt was Oswald's CIA handler. As someone who shoots, the most accurate shot is your first shot, in Oswalds case it is his last shot that is the accurate head shot. If there were 2/3 discrepancies fair enough bu there are so many around the Kennedy shooting, the mind boggles.

There is also the case of key witnesses who disappeared or who turned up dead in the years after, none more so than NY journalist Ruth Killgallon.

It is also worth remembering the Select Committee on Assassinations in 1976 concluded that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The Warren Commission was a botch job.

As for the shooter(s) well we will never know for sure but E Howard Hunt (one of the Watergate burglars) did confess on his death bed to being part of "the big event" plot to have Kennedy killed.