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#MeToo has caught on, good thing or bad thing ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,147 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    It said women rather than just woman in the articles I've seen.

    But how can someone be sacked without even being told what the allegations are against them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Hangings too good for this monster..

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-axes-aled-jones-from-christmas-episodes-of-songs-of-praise-after-sexual-harassment-allegations-a3708681.html

    Vile beast Jones sent inappropriate text message a decade ago


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    backspin. wrote: »
    Hangings too good for this monster..

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-axes-aled-jones-from-christmas-episodes-of-songs-of-praise-after-sexual-harassment-allegations-a3708681.html

    Vile beast Jones sent inappropriate text message a decade ago

    He says he 'never meant to harass or cause distress', but it doesn't say the extent of the harassment. I doubt it was a single off-color text if he's apologising for harrassment and distress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Candie wrote: »
    He says he 'never meant to harass or cause distress', but it doesn't say the extent of the harassment. I doubt it was a single off-color text if he's apologising for harrassment and distress.

    Look at the top comment in the daily mail article.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5139023/BBC-axes-Aled-Jones-Songs-Praise-Christmas-shows.html

    I know people like to scoff at the daily mail readership (Stats below - look at the female readership numbers) but the up ticks dwarf the down ticks. People need to be careful that the public don't grow skeptical of these harassment claims. Calling out the likes of Weinstein is vitally important but we have to be careful that clumsy men aren't tarnished with the same brush.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/380710/daily-mail-the-mail-on-sunday-monthly-reach-by-demographic-uk/


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/hillary-clinton-chose-to-shield-a-top-adviser-accused-of-harassment-in-2008.html


    We always knew how she treated Bill's women, but we didn't know she protected abusers like Burns Strider in 2008.

    Then she rehires him to run Correct The Record for 2016, and he abuses more women. The she's at his house a few months ago if you look at his Twitter. We can only assume he's been at it for a decade because of her actions in 2008.


    No doubt many view Hillary as a real #metoo but she's really a #ienabletoo. And you'll all ignore it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,125 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/hillary-clinton-chose-to-shield-a-top-adviser-accused-of-harassment-in-2008.html


    We always knew how she treated Bill's women, but we didn't know she protected abusers like Burns Strider in 2008.

    Then she rehires him to run Correct The Record for 2016, and he abuses more women. The she's at his house a few months ago if you look at his Twitter. We can only assume he's been at it for a decade because of her actions in 2008.


    No doubt many view Hillary as a real #metoo but she's really a #ienabletoo. And you'll all ignore it.

    That doesn't count.
    Hilary is one of the 'good guys'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    I'm sure Marian Finucane and the usual anti Clinton supporters in RTE will be out condemning her for this.


    Or possibly not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    The Weinsteins and Spaceys of the world absolutely deserve everything they get, of that there can be no doubt. But I have to be honest and say, as a woman, that I really feel this who MeToo thing has gotten out of control.

    It seems to be the case now that any man with any connection to Hollywood is fair game and that any little insignificant touch or brush or silly text can be seen as serious sexual misconduct.

    And the most worrying part is that a lot of people seem to think it’s acceptable to demonize men and ruin their careers and lives for even smallest and inconsequential of incidents.

    Trial by media is not and never should be acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Vorenus400


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/hillary-clinton-chose-to-shield-a-top-adviser-accused-of-harassment-in-2008.html


    We always knew how she treated Bill's women, but we didn't know she protected abusers like Burns Strider in 2008.

    Then she rehires him to run Correct The Record for 2016, and he abuses more women. The she's at his house a few months ago if you look at his Twitter. We can only assume he's been at it for a decade because of her actions in 2008.


    No doubt many view Hillary as a real #metoo but she's really a #ienabletoo. And you'll all ignore it.


    Im pretty sure Hillary lost the presidential election and lots of people have called her out for supporting Bill and allegedly trying to silence his accusers. Are there many people in Ireland who think Hillary is a good or sincere person? If this was Bernie Sanders then maybe it would be shocking.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vorenus400 wrote: »
    Im pretty sure Hillary lost the presidential election and lots of people have called her out for supporting Bill and allegedly trying to silence his accusers. Are there many people in Ireland who think Hillary is a good or sincere person? If this was Bernie Sanders then maybe it would be shocking.

    There were plenty of people who didn't give a shlt about it when she was mocking Trump at the Grammys.

    The mental gymnastics needed to a be a feminist and then laugh with her a couple of days after it comes out that she protected an abuser is fascinating.


    Hypocrites the lot of them. She should be condemned for rehiring him.


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  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Guilt by association and trial by media sweet combo bro


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Guilt by association and trial by media sweet combo bro

    Me? Or other #metoo stuff here?


  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Me? Or other #metoo stuff here?

    This thread in the main but you for the wholly unrelated bump


  • Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I always thought when celeb posted #metoo, it was an invitation? such is the nature of "celebs" and the Faux liberal agenda de jour! :D

    oh #metooplease!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44035718
    New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman has resigned following allegations of assault by four women.

    The resignation came after the New Yorker magazine published a report quoting the women who accused Mr Schneiderman, 63, of hitting them.

    Two identified themselves as former girlfriends of his.

    Mr Schneiderman - who contests the allegations - has been a vocal supporter of the #MeToo movement against sexual harassment.


    Always the same, these virtue signaling tossers have always something to hide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Always be wary of the male feminist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    A few years back, quite odd all the same.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/522117567352410113


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    A few years back, quite odd all the same.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/522117567352410113

    I think that would technically make it guyliner...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    wexie wrote: »
    I think that would technically make it guyliner...

    Good point. I enjoy the specifying the brand aspect of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Good point. I enjoy the specifying the brand aspect of it.

    Kinda odd indeed, he seems pretty sure as well like.

    Maybe it was Maybelline?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Nevermind, turns out it was the Russkies...

    https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/993631087409627136


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Always be wary of the male feminist.

    Or any feminist-very much the 'do as I say, not as I do'.
    Nevermind, turns out it was the Russkies...

    https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/993631087409627136

    I find that many were 'so supportive' of #Metoo-until it was someone they liked, and then it was a witch hunt/ warlock hunt. Case in point, the Al Franken, Aziz Ansari accusations-where Franken was a critic of Trump, until it turns out he'd not only groped a woman, in her sleep, but he took a photo of it.

    People were quick to bash her and accuse her of lying, or exaggerating, because she is an NRA member, and a Conservative who voted for Trump...:rolleyes:
    Never mind there was so much evidence pointing to Franken's groping, and now those who were demanding Trump be impeached were defending Franken.

    The Anzari case was pretty similar-barring the photographic evidence. And suddenly you had the same defenders of Franken.

    These folks always fall-it was similar to Joseph McCarthy leading the mob against the Communists, while secretly an alcoholic who chased after young girls. It only took one major journo to take him down, when he turned the cameras on McCarthy.

    In other news, Scarlett Johanssen wore one of Weinstein's wife's dresses to the Met Gala-and was roundly and arguably justifiably condemned for it.

    http://variety.com/2018/film/news/scarlett-johansson-marchesa-met-gala-dress-harvey-weinstein-1202803484/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭The Legend Of Kira


    Some people may of heard about new anti harassment rules/working guideline netflix are bringing following #metoo .

    "" Netflix has introduced new anti-harassment training in the wake of the #metoo movement that rocked Hollywood and seriously disrupted production on its House of Cards show.

    New rules imposed on set reportedly include no looking at anyone for longer than five seconds, no lingering hugs, no flirting and no asking for a colleague's phone number.

    “Everyone was spoken to about #MeToo," an on-set runner currently working on the new season of Black Mirror told The Sun. ""

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/netflix-sexual-harassment-training-rules-me-too-flirting-on-set-a8396431.html

    To me that asking for someone,s number or casually flirting with someone can now be seen as " harassment " in one workplace is absurd & going too far, sure if someone says " no " or " not interested " & the other person keeps something up despite being told " no " that,s harassment as its not respecting or accepting taking no for an answer, but casually asking for someone,s number to be now seen as some form of " harassment " ? metoo has gone too far as its now policing that you can,t even ask for a phone number under new anti-harassment training .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I'm honestly curious how the usual people will try and disregard this and claim it as 'PC gone made' 'Feminazis' and so on.

    Vatican meets #MeToo: Nuns denounce their abuse by priests
    VATICAN CITY (AP) — The nun no longer goes to confession regularly, after an Italian priest forced himself on her while she was at her most vulnerable: recounting her sins to him in a university classroom nearly 20 years ago.

    https://apnews.com/bb86b675b1b6461d82a312f8f845bd36


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    'Memba when Jessica Chastain was condemning Bryan Singer?
    Pepperidge farm remembers...

    Anyways, Chastain has decided to sign on to work with a guy who's repeatedly beaten up women, and had convictions for it, including girlfriends and a hotel receptionist, the most recent assault occurred in 2012, a year after his 2011 'atonement'.

    Chastain has said nothing... seems she likes to get on her high horse, except when it accounts for people she's working with.

    https://www.thewrap.com/jessica-chastain-matthew-newton-assault-accusations-mental-illness/


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