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The Walking Dead | Season 8 | Episode 1 | Mercy [AMC] [SPOILERS]

  • 19-10-2017 8:11am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭


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    SEASON 8 PREMIERE

    The Walking Dead - Season 8

    Episode 1 - "Mercy"

    Airdate - October 22nd on AMC at 9/8c | October 23rd on FOX UK at 9PM

    Rick, the Kingdom and the Hilltop bring the fight to Negan and the Saviors.

    * This episode marks the milestone of being the 100th episode of the series.
    * This is an extended episode, 47 minutes long (without commercials)


    Promo



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    6
    Is it usually this quiet before a new season?

    Have to say i only realised today it's back tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Kneebreaker


    This show has gone to pot. The last series was garbage.Cannot find the enthusiasm to watch it week on week. Might watch them altogether if reports are favourable but feel they've jumped the shark.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    2
    Unearthly wrote: »
    Is it usually this quiet before a new season?

    Have to say i only realised today it's back tonight

    No excitement for it. Truly boring stuff.....

    How long can they keep it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    7
    The Walking Dead Season 8 Premiere: Opening Scene



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    7
    thought last season was class looking forward to it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    This show has gone to pot. The last series was garbage.Cannot find the enthusiasm to watch it week on week. Might watch them altogether if reports are favourable but feel they've jumped the shark.

    Reviews are actually very positive, even the ones that make heavy reference to how poor and directionless the last season was.

    But then again, the opening of S7 was excellent too....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    6
    "... the piss patrol ..." Negan


    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    That was a bit meh...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    2
    Meh indeed. At least there was action, but yet again the daft unrealistic decisions being made by characters comes to the fore.
    Rick goes on about needing to kill only one guy(but kills a heap more anyway), but when that one guy and his lieutenants are standing right there in front of more firepower than a battleship like a ready made firing squad we get more of Negan's speeches. They showed they can take out lookouts with snipers, yet can't just shoot Negan? Da fuq?

    On that score the amount of wasted ammo was unreal.
    To just shoot up negan's building? Or riddling a car with just one guy behind it?
    Have they now got a bullet factory we don't know about?

    I have no idea what purpose the
    flashback/forward dream stuff
    was about at all. :confused:

    Now Fear TWD has its faults, not least of which is Madison Doing a Rick™ on some dodgy decisions that make little sense, but as far as pacing and character it blows its parent TWD out of the water. In Fear baddies like Negan come along but are dealt with in pretty short order and in a way that's believable. The baddies themselves are more believable. There's less soap opera and theatrics going on and it's far the better for having fewer main characters. For me anyway TWD is more and more like the source material, a comic. And not in a good way.

    But yeah, at least it had action this episode. I suspect that in short order we'll have the introspective episodes based around one or two characters, dragging things out. Again. Probably next week with the episode centering around
    Negan and Father Ted trapped in the building.
    With extra cheesy theatrical dialogue.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,143 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    agreed just shoot him, those lieutenants need to die too, and wasted ammo wtf?

    I was also waiting for one of the hilltop to shoot the ex-mayor in the head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    2
    Wtf did I just watch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Haven't seen it.......did they go full 'A Team' again? :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    2
    Must be those magic reusable bullets again!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    4
    I really don't know why I bothered I figured it would middle of the road Meh and that's what is was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭Noel82


    5
    The rallies and speeches were so cringe. The show tries to carrying heavy spiritual overtones but it just doesn't work at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I thought it was better than some of the crap it served up last season at least. However, I did cringe so much when Negan started talking to Gabriel and asking him did he have his ****ting pants on as he's about to **** his pants. Such awful dialogue


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    2
    titan18 wrote: »
    I did cringe so much when Negan started talking to Gabriel and asking him did he have his ****ting pants on as he's about to **** his pants. Such awful dialogue
    That was beyond badly written. The standout line in a long list of crappy dialogue.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    6
    Well it was alright i suppose but I'm concerned as the first episode is usually the best it offers until the finale.

    The snipers vanishing when Negan appeared annoyed me to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Pathetic...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Well, simply put, that was absolutely abysmal.

    Don't know why I bothered tbh, last few series' has been the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    Welcome back everyone :)

    Well it was certainly no S7 opener.
    Gabriel
    should just shoot Negan straight away, ta fuq.
    Maggie's accent is starting to really get on my wick.
    Gregory will hopefully die a protracted death at the hands (teeth?) of a herd.
    Agree about the cringy speeches too.

    Look, not the worst episode. I'm invested so I'll keep watching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    4
    I can only imagine Rick has some grand plan that we only saw a fraction of. Because otherwise that was absolutely pointless and the whole episode was , to put it mildly, underwhelming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,968 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    6
    The speeches were so cringey and their smugness didn't help. Then the pinpoint accuracy of the snipers but no one can take out negan 30 feet away. Shooting at Windows, hitting ceilings, was bad enough but Maggie shooting her Revolver up was just baffling.

    It's like they said 'people want more action, let's give it to em'.

    Why is Gregory still alive? Why can't the priest shoot negan to **** as soon as he sees him?

    Such a weird opening episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    4
    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    The speeches were so cringey and their smugness didn't help. Then the pinpoint accuracy of the snipers but no one can take out negan 30 feet away. Shooting at Windows, hitting ceilings, was bad enough but Maggie shooting her Revolver up was just baffling.

    It's like they said 'people want more action, let's give it to em'.

    Why is Gregory still alive? Why can't the priest shoot negan to **** as soon as he sees him?

    Such a weird opening episode.

    The whole thing felt like a dream scene tbh. I found I couldn't care less what happened as it was allbso unreal. I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd attacked the compound on unicorns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,968 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    6
    This was cool, the little girl zombie from the 1st ep made a return.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bakl2G4l1Gi/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    3
    Fairly shoddy opening to the series. They seemed to be shooting the glass for the hell of it. Will see if next weeks is any better. Otherwise will probably let a couple of episodes build up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    titan18 wrote: »
    I thought it was better than some of the crap it served up last season at least. However, I did cringe so much when Negan started talking to Gabriel and asking him did he have his ****ting pants on as he's about to **** his pants. Such awful dialogue
    Wibbs wrote: »
    That was beyond badly written. The standout line in a long list of crappy dialogue.

    Blame Robert Kirkman. That line was in the comics. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sabhail


    6
    Strange episode but enjoyable I thought, nothing like a few wtf moments to get you thinking....

    And nice to see both Morgan and carol totally back from their angst about killing. I just think Ezekiel should have acted in some realistic plays maybe before the apocalypse, to stop him shouting that no one of the ranks will die, - of course they will you idiot.

    I don't think they were trying to kill negans lieutenants tbh... Tho I don't really see why that would be the case...

    I did like ricks 'are u making me count' comment .

    And finally is the introduce black character, kill black character theory that used to be around still in operation, with Gabriel and carls new Muslim friend taking the leaving and joining parts

    Quite looking fwd to episode 2


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    Thought it was pretty obvious that they were shooting indiscriminately to lure in the walkers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    3
    Pelvis wrote: »
    Thought it was pretty obvious that they were shooting indiscriminately to lure in the walkers.
    Would the explosives not have done the same trick?


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    Anyone spot the blooper about 3 mins in? Theres a jet trail to the left of Rick's head. Its a bit blurred. As to the episode itself, flat enough I thought. No stand out moments tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    6
    Fairly shoddy opening to the series. They seemed to be shooting the glass for the hell of it. Will see if next weeks is any better. Otherwise will probably let a couple of episodes build up.

    It was Suppressive fire by the armored fire support mobile column to cover the advance of the VBIED in the RV and the herde. The goal is pin them down.

    The plan was good given the lack of heavy weapons i.e. artillery etc

    They used Dwight's intel to eliminate the smaller outposts
    Lured the larger outpost into an IED ambush.
    Gathered a herd of biters

    Plan A for the main compound
    Attempted to get the saviours to turn on each other using Dwight intel
    the names of the lieutenants the fact that negan is hated , divide and conquer by giving terms , did not work thou.

    Plan B
    After that failed. They sent in the VBIED in the RV to destroy saviors perimeter under covering fire and then directed the herd into the breach while making escape in the armored fire support mobile column.

    The saviours have now lost all their outposts and their main compound is filled with a herd with a destroyed perimeter

    The vehicles and tactics Looked like something out the syria war.
    Its difficult to make decisive war without proper weapons


    on the downside

    the speechs are terrible we have heard these a dozen times. They should have had them show briefing instead and explain the plan and equipment.

    Flashforwards/dreams are confusing

    Negans + co should not have been in line of sight during the standoff




    7/10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    It was better than most of last season but that wasn't difficult and that's because they stuck to a straightforward narrative structure (barring the flash forward stuff which didn't make any sense whatsoever).

    Those 'we're gonna make the world a better place' speeches from Rick and Maggie were toe-curlingly awful. Who would be inspired by that rubbish?

    As people have already said, the Negan shootout had more holes in it than the windows of his compound. Did we need another poxy cliché-ridden speech from Negan? No, sirree we sure as HELL did not!

    The first sighting of Tara in her stupid sunglasses just set me on edge, I cannot stand the sight of her. But hey, no trash people so that was a bonus!

    In conjunction with the premiere they showed a behind the scenes thing which basically recapped the whole series to date mixed in with interviews and the like. And all it did was remind us how great Walking Dead was once. Now it's just the A Team with zombies lurching around in the background. But at least the A Team was funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    So.. wtf.
    The cgi of the car blowing up was just laughable, could they not do it for real?
    Then the timing of the horde to within a couple of seconds was fantastic, some calculations there lads.
    Then Gabriel, what in the name of fook have you done now.
    Let see.. Ah yeah what's the point of the mayor? He's as useful as tits on a nun.
    The petrol station scene seemed to be a throwback to the first episode ever when Rick looks for petrol.
    Then this new Indian lad, that will be 1 full episode dedicated to him.
    When we see rick old I was half thinking they were suggesting he's only just waking up from coma he was in.
    4/10 and honestly fear the walking dead is much better than this.
    Be nearly better to simply put both sets of families in the one show.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Ah, that was not the miracle I expected. Typical return to the magic plot armour factory where Negan can stand proudly on a blatantly obvious parapet spewing his nonsense - armed with a baseball bat no less - while no-one thinks to take that easy shot, instead prefer to roar threats and logic at him, despite all the effort that went into his apparent end.

    0/10 for me.

    Total waste of time. Action aplenty. Devoid of any semblence of logic. **** sake, could the writers not take a few notes from Fear the Walking Dead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,143 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    I was bit confused near the end, we saw people banging on the blue door at the dish/research place, then later yerman threw a grenade, presumably to blow up the door and release lots of pent up zombies that it cut to a high shot which I didn't know what it was supposed to be showing us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,143 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    hella confusing episode, we had three extra times for rick, old grey man beard, red eyed distress, and then a flash back to the speeches at the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    This show seriously needs new writers that episode was just rubbish, The snipers can take out guys on a multi story roof but could not take out Neegan give me a flipping break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,143 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    gimple likes to mess with the audience, in not revealing whats going on, but he does it too much


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    3
    Well that 45 mins of my life I'll never get back. The big black dude had a Hk416 with an ACOG sight on it. Give that to Rick, Rick pops Neegan in the head, he was what, 100m away? job done. But no instead Neegan gets to stand there and talk sh!t for a few minutes while they all hide behind their cars, which btw were plated with sheet metal used for roofing sheds, that stuff would barely stop a shot from an air rifle. I knew it would be sh!t I don't why I bothered downloading it, I wanted to see what would happen out of some morbid curiosity is suppose. I'm gonna wait a few weeks and then attempt a binge watch, maybe. Tried that last series though and it was just too awful. I ended up just reading the plot synopsis and then watching the final episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭shineon23


    CGI of a walker on the left Of The screen at the 36 minute mark was shockingly bad.

    Would have been better putting nothing in there or shooting from a different angle, focusing on the other walker not the right that wasn't CGI'ed in.

    <Rant over>

    Skipped through a lot of the filler in the episode, and did the same with the 80 minute Talking Dead special. It involved a lot of 'wooing' patting themselves on the back. Too much for my liking. In case anyone feels the need to watch it don't.

    Only takeaway from talking dead was that the Crossover with 'Fear' will take place sometime in 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭cylor


    How does Team Rick know that Negan won't have a few grenades around when they arrive? Didn't the Saviours confiscate the RPG that Daryl used?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,563 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Feels like the writers don't even try with this show any more. Gabriel gets locked in the portacabin with Negan and looks like he's crapping himself. Gabriel you have a bloody machine gun that you loaded a few minutes earlier. Just shoot him ffs! He has a baseball bat! The writers could at least show him dropping his gun first or something.

    Also why doesn't someone just shoot Negan when he's out giving one of his long speeches? He's not that far away. Any decent shot in your group should be able to blow his head off. Instead they all just sit there bantering back and forth with him.

    Normally I can ignore stuff like that and suspend disbelief but it's got so bad on TWD.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    2
    Probably one of the worst season openers in TWD. That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    Watching TWD actually makes me appreciate GOT's last season all the more. I mean GOT doesn't even have anymore source material to run with and they do a better job.

    TWD writing formula
    - Give cringy "rousing" speech (give those actors and extras an award for their performance in looking interested cause I certainly wasn't)
    - Cool shot of Daryl doing something cool.
    - Force a sweet moment between 2 characters for no reason at all (Rick and Maggie in this case)
    - Make someone do something VERY dumb for some added tension (Fr. Gabriel)
    - Add action scene where thousands of bullets are shot but no one (with a name in the opening titles) dies. Didn't they get criticism for this after the season finale when no one died? Looks like they don't care either way.

    AMC clearly just want this to keep going so they can syndicate the show and sell as many seasons as possible to other countries. Oh and Negan is a terrible villain. Cheesy dialogue and honestly terrible acting from Morgan, just smile and lean backwards when you walk and there you have it, evil genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,368 ✭✭✭naughto


    I think there all sick from some man flu type sickness and Rick is raving mad.

    The opening ep will have a different look in a few weeks time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    I can handle not wasting Negan when he was standing talking shyte, makes sense that they were hoping his men would turn on him meaning it would end with his death rather than just shooting him and they retaliate straight away.

    What I cannot handle is how fcuking fast the walkers made it to the compound, the time lines were completely screwy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    2
    Watch season 1 of Star Trek Discovery, a lot less leaning and Captain Lorca would give Negan a run for his money in the bad-ass steaks !! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭frash


    2
    worst episode ever

    EVER (including some of the ones in season 2!)


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