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Storm Ophelia - General Discussion/Local reports - See MOD NOTE Post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Love the bit about Trumps place "Ophelia could make landfall in Ireland close to President Trump's family golf resort near the village of Doonbeg. The resort, which has said it can lose as much as 10 meters of land to coastal erosion during a bad storm, is along the route expected to be hit by Ophelia's gale force winds. Trump International Golf Links & Hotel is constantly reviewing the situation, a spokesman said by email."

    http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2017/10/hurricane_ophelia_ireland.html

    There is one about 80 metres high at the Waterford University Hospital.
    Forgot about that, Its only up the road from me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭royalflush2003


    Hi I work on pottery road Dunlaoire east coast - have to travel from Sandymount Monday night not to far but don't want to chance it because live by the sea sandy mount / high tides /debris / fallen trees etc
    Or am I over reacting or will I take day off?
    Any info would be great,

    Thanks great insight to weather information you all have taught me a lot ..

    Thanks once again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    I don't usually scare that easily but remember stupidly trying to drive home in 2014 during that storm. I actually feared for my life so am taking heed of warnings. Am hoping work (school in cork area) close but as if yet we are open. Grand for locals but I've an hour and half (on an average day) commute just to get there. Seriously considering ringing in if weather is as bad as expected especially if I can't guarantee getting home to The kids on time either
    Was away all day today so will be cleaning up the yard tomorrow- 're trampoline beyond sandbags to weigh the legs down what else can we Do? Remove side netting? We have it pegged down with straps as it is as we lost the last one in 2014.

    Our trampoline was weighed down with eight sandbags before Storm Darwin. We found it 300 metres away. Two fields over.

    Either dismantle it tomorrow.... or remove the side netting and flip it upside down (So the mat is touching the grass) and then weigh it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Out of curiosity is there many tower cranes up around the South coast areas
    Someone just reminded me of the one at waterford regional hosptal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    I'm not normally one to prepare I'm usual the sceptical one and the ah won't be that bad all the lads on the weather forum are mad :)
    But

    Emm

    Think il bring in the trampoline anything lose in the garden and check a few other bits this time

    I'm working a 12 hour day shift 08.00 to 20.00 should be fun driving around


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭donal.hunt


    Hi I work on pottery road Dunlaoire east coast -  have to travel from Sandymount Monday night not to far but don't want to chance it because live by the sea sandy mount / high tides /debris / fallen trees etc
    Or am I over reacting or will I take day off?
    Any info would be great,

    Thanks great insight to weather information you all have taught me a lot ..

    Thanks once again
    I would wait for updated information from Met Eireann / the emergency committee thing and then make contact with your boss. Right now, there isn't a clear picture of what severity different places will get. Most businesses are going to take a sensible approach with regard staff / opening hours if there is going to be disruption.

    Probably worth noting that Dublin does have good infrastructure so is better placed to weather such a storm. Saying that, trees come down in Dublin as much as other places in  the country and could affect your journey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭Feckoffcup


    1) it's not a hurricane
    2) the wind speeds are over exaggerated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Feckoffcup wrote: »
    1) it's not a hurricane
    2) the wind speeds are over exaggerated

    Link ?

    Shall I quote this post on Tuesday ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    I'm not normally one to prepare I'm usual the sceptical one and the ah won't be that bad all the lads on the weather forum are mad :)
    But

    Emm

    Think il bring in the trampoline anything lose in the garden and check a few other bits this time

    I'm working a 12 hour day shift 08.00 to 20.00 should be fun driving around


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    The comparison with previous storms that was posted at the end of the forecast was actually helpful, in that it put the potential for Monday into some sort of context. The previous event of similar magnitude was in 1961, so outside living memory for a significant percentage of the population, and many of those that can remember it would have been quite young, so not likely to remember the problems that it caused. Another very sobering thought which should not be ignored was that there were 18 lives lost in that event. The worry is that the population now is much more mobile than it was 60 years ago, and there is a much higher dependence on things like electricity that would have been the case. Both of these factors could mean a much more significant impact on day to day life this time round.

    The 2014 storm by comparison was relatively mild in terms of wind strength, but it did a lot of damage to the ESB network, so we have no real pointer to how much damage could result from Monday's onslaught, and the reality is that the ESB network is a lot larger and more complex that it would have been in 1961, so the potential for significant problems would seem to me to be a lot higher.

    My concern would be that if the response here is anything to go by, there are too many people that are not prepared to accept that a storm of this magnitude could actually hit Ireland, so they are not buying in to the warnings. That's probably not being helped by the historic snow threads that happen here every winter, and almost always result in a downgrade to nothing of significance (or worse) most of the time,

    The reality is that the early warning that were given here are proving to be very much accurate advance warnings, and unlike the snow scenarios, if anything, the latest updates are showing an increase in the intensity, and a possibly even more damaging route further east, but even though we'd like them to, even now, no one can actually give us a more accurate track for this storm, or a more specific forecast of the wind strength that will eventually arrive.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭RoisinClare6


    I'm a bit iffy about work too. My boyfriends parents give me a lift both in their sixties. Its 30 mins from my house. Through a town and then country roads for a couple of miles through a road fully lined by trees. An office that's a converted barn on a farm surrounded by trees.

    Whatever about me but I may find another way because I cant ask them to drive through this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 mand0621


    Booked on an 8am sailing from rosslare monday morning..chances of it happening slim/ none??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    mand0621 wrote: »
    Booked on an 8am sailing from rosslare monday morning..chances of it happening slim/ none??

    Not a chance, best try to get onboard tomorrow if you are going to the UK, if its to France then I'd say tomorrow will nearly be cancelled too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Out of curiosity is there many tower cranes up around the South coast areas

    This post IRMA in Miami recently:

    104700821-GettyImages-845293936.530x298.jpg?v=1505061878

    At the back of CUH over Wilton Road / Wilton Gardens is a massive crane at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,119 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    floorpie wrote: »
    Is this bad enough to not bother going into work in Dublin city on Monday? I presume I wont blow away but, how do the roads from the city typically cope after events like this? Floods, fallen trees...?
    I'm almost certainly going to go in (by LUAS), but will be watching the weather and may want to leave early. I wonder how many numbskulls will try using umbrellas in that ..? :rolleyes:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    IT Tralee is closed Monday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Doltanian wrote: »
    Not a chance, best try to get onboard tomorrow if you are going to the UK, if its to France then I'd say tomorrow will nearly be cancelled too.

    Well if you're heading towards the north of this island you'll be in the UK, never mind sailing over to Britain ...

    Wonder will it be as bad as 87'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Tom123


    I am meant to be flying aerlingus regional Monday morning at 9 and back again that evening at 6.
    Is it likely that these flights will be cancelled haven't seen anything on aerlingus website yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    What'd be the best beach to go to on Monday to see some huge waves?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Tom123 wrote: »
    I am meant to be flying aerlingus regional Monday morning at 9 and back again that evening at 6.
    Is it likely that these flights will be cancelled haven't seen anything on aerlingus website yet?

    Forget. About. It.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,480 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Forget. About. It.

    Care to expand?

    In my humble opinion, the early flight may be fine but the return will likely be canceled before you leave DUB in the morning.

    For some reasonable certainty we must wait for the TAF to be issued tomorrow at 6pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    What'd be the best beach to go to on Monday to see some huge waves?

    And the darwin award goes to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Care to expand?

    In my humble opinion, the early flight may be fine but the return will likely be canceled before you leave DUB in the morning.

    For some reasonable certainty we must wait for the TAF to be issued tomorrow at 6pm.

    Exactly what you said. Return flight is almost certain to be cancelled especially as it is a regional flight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Tom123


    Forget. About. It.

    Do you mean the flights are likely to be cancelled?
    I probably won't fly in the morning if I can't get back in the evening.

    Flight is to and from the Isle of Man. Looking at flightradar it seems to usually a ATR 42-300


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    What'd be the best beach to go to on Monday to see some huge waves?

    You're better off watching home and away from the comfort of your home on your tv instead of trying to see some beaches in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Tom123 wrote: »
    Do you mean the flights are likely to be cancelled?
    I probably won't fly in the morning if I can't get back in the evening.

    Flight is to and from the Isle of Man. Looking at flightradar it seems to usually a ATR 42-300

    I would be very surprised if the return flight isn't cancelled. However that is only my opinion so take it how you wish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    If you are going beach hunting stay well back and if possible up on a height that wont have debris flying. Freak waves are not so freak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Tom123


    I would be very surprised if the return flight isn't cancelled. However that is only my opinion so take it how you wish.

    Thanks all advise much appreciated


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Tom123 wrote: »
    Do you mean the flights are likely to be cancelled?
    I probably won't fly in the morning if I can't get back in the evening.

    Flight is to and from the Isle of Man. Looking at flightradar it seems to usually a ATR 42-300

    With the way the forecast is shaping up, the flight from Dublin to the Isle of Man won't be able to get out of Dublin, and depending on the eventual forecast tomorrow, it may be "hiding" on the ground somewhere safe a long way from Dublin, as winds of the magnitude that are possible would be capable of destroying an ATR, as that speed is above the stalling speed of the aircraft, so it could be lifted off the ground by them. So, it's not even safe sitting on the ground in Dublin, so it could end up being moved to somewhere well away from the dangerous winds, which could well be somewhere in the South East of the UK.

    If that happens, then the aircraft won't be in the right place to resume the schedule until some time after the wind drops back to safe levels at Dublin.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    So I'm fairly high in the wicklow mountains, is there any precautions I should take with the likes of sheds and windows. Would boarding up be a step to far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,104 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Well here's the thing.

    I have a hand held very bright torch thing from Aldi. Lights up the whole room. Batteries bought to feed it if necessary.

    Bought 4 x two litres of water, and will fill kettle, and jug in the fridge too.

    Have tins of corned beef (yum) and bread and butter. Will keep us alive, along with Weetabix. Milk is a problem the weather is very warm these days, but I will do what my old lady did back in the day and put the milk (decanted into screwtop bottles) in a sink full of cold water.

    Other than that what can you do? No need to go all Prepper style and apocalyptic, but once you have the basics, you will be grand.

    Oh and a bottle of wine/whisky/few beers for the spectacle is good too.

    We will know more tomorrow.

    Great thread and thanks to everyone for the updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Den Creed


    Can anyone give me insight if a flight from Keflavík International Airport Iceland Cork could take place on Monday 12:30 pm ?, a few relatives went up with a group there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang


    Should we be buying candles and torches tomorrow? Is is that bad?

    Spanish eyes it sounds like you're preparing for the zombie apocalypse. Do I really need 8 litres of water stored away?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Gravity fed urban water mains should be fine.
    Keep your mobiles charged!
    Also, it's advisable to turn your fridge/freezer to lowest setting as there's a risk of a power outage. It will keep cooler for longer.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Den Creed wrote: »
    Can anyone give me insight if a flight from Keflavík International Airport Iceland Cork could take place on Monday 12:30 pm ?, a few relatives went up with a group there.

    Unlikely, given the way this is shaping up, presuming that's departure time from Keflavik, so arriving into Cork mid afternoon, which unless this downgrades massively will be close to the peak of the winds.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭nagdefy


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    So I'm fairly high in the wicklow mountains, is there any precautions I should take with the likes of sheds and windows. Would boarding up be a step to far.

    My homeplace is over 1,000ft. Make sure any light objects around a farm yard are inside. If you have straw bales in ricks with tyres on top they can be dangerous. Old out houses with slates. Fair bit of rain coming if cattle need to be brought in. Doors of sheds shut etc. Also most farm buildings are built to shelter from the prevailing south westerly wind. This may have an easterly/south easterly direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    I've made sure I have some cash because if the esb and internet goes down, bank cards might be useless. Also most shops in my town have no natural light, so might have to close. I'm also going to lay my dustbins flat on the ground so they can't blow over. I've just had them emptied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Den Creed


    Unlikely, given the way this is shaping up, presuming that's departure time from Keflavik, so arriving into Cork mid afternoon, which unless this downgrades massively will be close to the peak of the winds.

    I don't know if its the departure time from Iceland, or arrival to Cork, but from memory, I'm leaning towards arrival time. Anyhow, thanks for the input


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Unlikely, given the way this is shaping up, presuming that's departure time from Keflavik, so arriving into Cork mid afternoon, which unless this downgrades massively will be close to the peak of the winds.

    They'd likely be better off just spending an extra day in the Blue Lagoon.

    If they need cheap accommodation, check around the Keflavik area. There are a lot of quite reasonably priced hotels and even quite reasonable hostels on the old military base that were built from converted NATO accommodation. Basic, but modern, clean and functional.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Wind picking up in Cork City now - Some quite noticeable gusts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    flaneur wrote: »
    Wind picking up in Cork City now - Some quite noticeable gusts.
    Nothing to do with it its still west of the strait of gibraltar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    flaneur wrote: »
    Wind picking up in Cork City now - Some quite noticeable gusts.

    As I said in the other thread, nothing to do with Ophelia.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,636 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Den Creed wrote: »
    Can anyone give me insight if a flight from Keflavík International Airport Iceland Cork could take place on Monday 12:30 pm ?, a few relatives went up with a group there.
    The school tour?

    They'll only be delighted that they don't have to come back ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    There's a thing what are the wind turbines in the country rated to withstand

    Wind farms may be turned off if winds reach 85 miles per hours, according to Stephen Lilley, partner at Greencoat Capital LLP, which manages funds that invest in wind farms including four in Northern Ireland

    Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-14/hurricane-ophelia-set-to-pick-up-speed-as-it-heads-for-ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Den Creed


    flaneur wrote: »
    They'd likely be better off just spending an extra day in the Blue Lagoon.

    If they need cheap accommodation, check around the Keflavik area. There are a lot of quite reasonably priced hotels and even quite reasonable hostels on the old military base that were built from converted NATO accommodation. Basic, but modern, clean and functional.
    Should've mentioned it's a school tour, surely teachers will be able to suss things out, reminded me of a story when another school tour got stranded in France ( Ironically, an Icelandic volcanic event), managed to get accommodation Free (well free to students) and food vouchers, surely, something similar can be sought out if the worse case happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,104 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Should we be buying candles and torches tomorrow? Is is that bad?

    Spanish eyes it sounds like you're preparing for the zombie apocalypse. Do I really need 8 litres of water stored away?

    Well that stash is just for the hangover :D

    But what the heck it's no biggie to buy a box of matches and a few candles is it. But a torch is safer esp with little ones around the place. Water in urban areas will be ok I think, but if on a well without a generator to work the pump.... different story!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Hopefully they do have it sussed, the airline and Keflavik ground crew should be able to help.
    It might be worth talking to them at this stage. It's a small airport and pretty friendly.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Danno wrote: »
    Wind farms may be turned off if winds reach 85 miles per hours, according to Stephen Lilley, partner at Greencoat Capital LLP, which manages funds that invest in wind farms including four in Northern Ireland

    Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-14/hurricane-ophelia-set-to-pick-up-speed-as-it-heads-for-ireland

    Turning them off will be one thing. I just hope that the companies that put them up didn't take any shortcuts with things like foundations, the loading that extreme winds could impose on them could be enough to topple them, which will have severe consequences both short term and long term.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    https://twitter.com/CC_StormWatch/status/919313345420726274
    The greatest wind (and storm surge) threat from #Ophelia are on the W and S facing shores of Ireland on Monday.

    DMIOnUPUEAAz8ox.jpg:large


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭nagdefy


    Turning them off will be one thing. I just hope that the companies that put them up didn't take any shortcuts with things like foundations, the loading that extreme winds could impose on them could be enough to topple them, which will have severe consequences both short term and long term.

    A turbine on the home farm. The foundations that were put in are unbelievable..at home at any rate. They are controlled remotely from Germany (aren't we all!) and stop at an ordinary gale.


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