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Extratropical Storm Ophelia - Technical Analysis Only - MOD NOTE post #1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    It might be an outlier, looks much further E then the other models. They are mean speeds , gusts much higher.

    Shows the uncertainty though the models have been very steady with regards to the path the last few days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    12z Euro..

    ECM1-48_kjr9.GIF

    Winds at 850hPa (stronger than ground level), direct hit for Cork and Kerry again
    ECU4-48_rlr0.GIF


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭dusty207


    Living on the seafront in Clontarf where even "normal" high winds cause flooding, any idea what the wind direction will be?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Winds at 850hPa (stronger than ground level), direct hit for Cork and Kerry again

    Seems the Met Eireann forecast is very much following the ECM not too dissimilar rto the GFS ( gusts at 10m )

    48-289UK_eee1.GIF


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    12z Euro..

    ...
    Winds at 850hPa (stronger than ground level), direct hit for Cork and Kerry again
    ECU4-48_rlr0.GIF

    A bit further east then previous to include Kerry/ Cork / Limerick (east) / Waterford / Wexford ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,566 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    NAVGEM

    navgem-0-48.png?14-20

    Again initially it is that southwestern corner i'd be most concerned about. Damaging.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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    This afternoon

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    What width is she?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    What width is she?

    About a Size 8


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    I'm not sure how the HWRF hurricane model handles extratropical systems but for what it's worth here is its output for 09Z Monday.

    hwrf_mslp_wind_17L_16.png


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    dusty207 wrote: »
    Living on the seafront in Clontarf where even "normal" high winds cause flooding, any idea what the wind direction will be?

    You'll be getting your usual dose of ton bags of sand no doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Stupid question alert - will there be much precipitation with this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭smunchkins


    I'm in Baltimore. From most of these models it looks like we'll be the welcome party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭dusty207


    sdanseo wrote: »
    You'll be getting your usual dose of ton bags of sand no doubt.

    Haha, not a sign of anything stirring so far!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    20171014.1815.goes13.x.vis1km_high.17LOPHELIA.100kts-960mb-342N-277W.100pc.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,561 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    dusty207 wrote: »
    Living on the seafront in Clontarf where even "normal" high winds cause flooding, any idea what the wind direction will be?

    I think it will be very close to a SSE wind direction, which is not good for Clontarf, but I haven’t looked at the tide times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank




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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    It has been a fascinating few days following this thread,I'm still waiting for everything to go belly up, let's be honest most potential interesting weather events tend to go that way in this country :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    MJohnston wrote: »
    I think it will be very close to a SSE wind direction, which is not good for Clontarf, but I haven’t looked at the tide times.

    Dublin full tide is just after 10pm so the tide should be lower at what looks like peak wind times, looking like they will shift direction coming towards full tide.

    https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Dublin-Ireland/tides/latest


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Pangea wrote: »
    It has been a fascinating few days following this thread,I'm still waiting for everything to go belly up, let's be honest most potential interesting weather events tend to go that way in this country :)

    Yeah I was expecting it to go west this morning and move away from us. Of course it might still do. If it moves further east then a lot more counties in the red zone.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dense wrote: »
    It's the weekend. RTE really only does foreign news at weekends.

    Surely they have an oncall producer who can go "By the way, mention something about that storm heading our way.."

    Edit: Wrote this post just after the 1pm news when there was no mention of the storm. Due to a browser glitch it only posted the comment at 7.40. Looked at RTE news just now and to be fair they did mention it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,516 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    Great work guys.
    2 questions. At what stage would you be able to call it locked in as definite going to happen and where and what are the key update times over next day or so?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    18Z multiplatform wind analysis, showing max winds 88 knots 38 NM east of the centre. Further expansion of the 64+ knot windfield to 85 NM. Central pressure 947 hPa.

    2017AL17_MPSATWND_201710141800_SWHR.GIF


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    12Z ECM just rolling out


    ECU1-48_pwk1.GIF

    Note: 850hpa chart

    ECU4-48_dpk3.GIF


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    Deank wrote: »

    south-east is the place to be for storm chasers, me thinks


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,561 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Pangea wrote: »
    It has been a fascinating few days following this thread,I'm still waiting for everything to go belly up, let's be honest most potential interesting weather events tend to go that way in this country :)

    To be honest, “belly up” in this particular can really only describe an ‘upgrade’ (in the storm energy sense), and I think a lot of us would be happy for it not to get any worse than the current predictions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    18Z multiplatform wind analysis, showing max winds 88 knots 38 NM east of the centre. Further expansion of the 64+ knot windfield to 85 NM. Central pressure 947 hPa.

    2017AL17_MPSATWND_201710141800_SWHR.GIF

    Does that mean the south east is likely to bear the brunt?


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