Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

Milan Curved Madman

Milan Curved Madman wrote: »

Do Newstalk pay her/anyone for these slots? How much do you think?

I think Newstalk and RTÉ do so, but it isn't much. I think I remember hearing Conor Pope saying it's less than €100. Any of their professional guests are really only doing so to enhance their CV/profile.

zell12 wrote: »

I heard a robot sounding impression

Ouch! (but true)

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jay0109 wrote: »

Their obviously not sending much work her way!

Yeah. Probably true.

meeeeh

Just a quick post, I'm not saying that Terry Prone didn't make some valid points. I'm saying that it would be more interesting and relevant to discuss what actually number encompasses. Top of the list are Ireland, Luxembourg and Norway. Two countries with very high presence of multinationals and financial institutions and country with big oil reserves. The question is are we really that productive or are is there a lot of intellectual property type activity funneled through Ireland (GDP jump in 2015 was 26%). How much of this productivity is highly mobile and could in few years be put through UK (or any other country) if their corporation tax rate moves to 5%.

meeeeh

meeeeh wrote: »

Top of the list are Ireland, Luxembourg and Norway. Two countries with very high presence of multinationals and financial institutions and country with big oil reserves. The question is are we really that productive or are is there a lot of intellectual property type activity funneled through Ireland (GDP jump in 2015 was 26%). .

That's a really good point.

Just to be clear, measures of productivity are notoriously crude, they basically consist of 'back of the envelope' calculations like dividing the national product by the number of workers per hour (there are a few variations on this, but all fairly similar, fairly crude). Obviously our State as a place which processes billions of euro in royalties for tax purposes, has a huge effect on productivity statistics.

No economist ever stands beside a worker to evaluate their 'productivity', that's not what productivity means in economic terms. It's one of the most meaningless economic stats in existence.

FreudianSlippers

sydthebeat wrote: »

her behaviour with frank mcdonald right now is pretty appalling

He's chatting absolute ****e.

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FreudianSlippers wrote: »

He's chatting absolute ****e.

Neither came out of the piece looking to good.

Frank does seem to be too slow and somewhat protectionist, Ciara's just build build build is a sure guide to conversations in 10 and 20 years of "How did we end up with this fiasco of a system with unsuitable buildings and estates everywhere"

ButtersSuki

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

He's chatting absolute ****e.

He was a guest on her show, presumably invited. He didn’t deserve to be interrupted as he was, shouted at, not listened to, etc. he had to ask her to please let him speak and/or to ask her to stop interrupting him more than once.

I stated earlier I don’t agree with most of what he said, and agreed with most of her points; but she failed to conduct an interview in a professional manner and she was openly hostile towards him because of his viewpoints. It showed a lack of basic manners really. She’s not entirely st fault for this though, some blame should fall on the production team for not reigning her in with a quiet word in the earpiece.

ButtersSuki

Milan Curved Madman wrote: »

Do Newstalk pay her/anyone for these slots? How much do you think?

Yes, they do. Most nationals would pay for “experts”, I’m assuming people like comedians etc. coming I plugging gigd don’t but “experts” do. I know someone who used to appear on Eamon Keane’s show on Newstalk when he was on it and he was paid, likewise I have a number of colleagues in another work sphere who have done once off contributory or comment pieces and have been paid for same.

The sum is pretty standard, the Newstalk figure I heard was higher than the €100 quoted, but these are professional people and you’re paying for their time.

sydthebeat

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

He's chatting absolute ****e.

completely no excuse for her behavior....

if he was talking sh!te then it should have been easier for her to argue against him.. .and not resort to the caterwauling that she did

Uncharted

sydthebeat wrote: »

completely no excuse for her behavior....

if he was talking sh!te then it should have been easier for her to argue against him.. .and not resort to the caterwauling that she did

Agreed. Although I disagree strongly with Frank Mc Donald, Ciara Kelly was very off in her approach. It smacked of desperation when she was resorting to screeching over him. It's a shame because I was agreeing with her.


(What the hell is happening to me!!! )

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

completely no excuse for her behavior....

if he was talking sh!te then it should have been easier for her to argue against him..,

in fairness, and I like Frank McDonald, some of what he said was BS.

Temple Bar is not a residential area, there are few people, except for students, who actively seek it out as a place to live. The idea that it should be treated like Rathgar or Terenure is completely bonkers.

Having said that, I wonder what kind of capacity even exists there to build upwards. I avoid Temple Bar inasmuch as I can, but I don't ever see a lot of space for building. And a huge proportion of its buildings are protected structures.

But the bottom line is, it ISN'T residential, and most students would happily live there, if there is capacity. I really don't see the problem.

FreudianSlippers

sydthebeat wrote: »

completely no excuse for her behavior....

if he was talking sh!te then it should have been easier for her to argue against him.. .and not resort to the caterwauling that she did

*looks around*

Not saying anything about her. Just making an observation.

Most sensitive forum on boards apparently! :pac:

FreudianSlippers

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

in fairness, and I like Frank McDonald, some of what he said was BS.

Temple Bar is not a residential area, there are few people, except for students, who actively seek it out as a place to live. The idea that it should be treated like Rathgar or Terenure is completely bonkers.

Having said that, I wonder what kind of capacity even exists there to build upwards. I avoid Temple Bar inasmuch as I can, but I don't ever see a lot of space for building. And a huge proportion of its buildings are protected structures.

But the bottom line is, it ISN'T residential, and most students would happily live there, if there is capacity. I really don't see the problem.

Temple Bar isn't an area to build up; it is an area that should be focused on density - hotels, airbnb, (good quality) student accommodation, bars, clubs, restaurants.

I don't see why we treat Temple Bar like it's some historic core when, in in fact it's a 1990s (ish?) created tourist-trap from a pure no-go zone historically.

FreudianSlippers

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

*looks around*

Not saying anything about her. Just making an observation.

Most sensitive forum on boards apparently! :pac:

listen, take a taste of your own medicine mate, if you don't like the forum, don't read it. But please don't insult the people who do.

A reminder of the forum charter, this forum is equally welcoming of people who praise and criticise radio programmes. If it were otherwise, it would only be a forum to praise radio shows, which would be a bore for everybody.

Let's go back to discussing the show's content, shall we?

Uncharted

I think Russell Brands comments were slightly off,nothing new there, but I have to say,in general I agree with his sentiment.

People always feel "allowed" to poke and interfere (metaphorically) where kids are involved.

Certain liberties are taken and I have in the past corrected adults who spoke to my kids in a condescending manner.

Example being something like" don't be silly,it's only a big dog " when my kid was a little nervous.
Adults need to butt out imo.

Tell me how

Uncharted wrote: »

I think Russell Brands comments were slightly off,nothing new there, but I have to say,in general I agree with his sentiment.

People always feel "allowed" to poke and interfere (metaphorically) where kids are involved.

Certain liberties are taken and I have in the past corrected adults who spoke to my kids in a condescending manner.

Example being something like" don't be silly,it's only a big dog " when my kid was a little nervous.
Adults need to butt out imo.

Interesting comment in that topic was the text from someone who said their brother in law always wanted to greet her with a kiss on the cheek and she wanted to know how to get him to stop....

Try telling him maybe

FreudianSlippers

Uncharted wrote: »

I think Russell Brands comments were slightly off,nothing new there, but I have to say,in general I agree with his sentiment.

People always feel "allowed" to poke and interfere (metaphorically) where kids are involved.

Certain liberties are taken and I have in the past corrected adults who spoke to my kids in a condescending manner.

What kind of weird adult is wanting to touch other children (RB talking about people tickling his child!?), or feels the need to even interact with children if they're not an a disciplinary setting?

Example being something like" don't be silly,it's only a big dog " when my kid was a little nervous.
Adults need to butt out imo.

That can be said without being condescending, but I wouldn't teach my children to trust a strange dog anyway regardless of what the owner claims tbf.

Uncharted

People are strange.

You watch a heavily pregnant woman try get through a crowd without getting her belly rubbed for "luck".


Wtf?

FreudianSlippers

Uncharted wrote: »

People are strange.

You watch a heavily pregnant woman try get through a crowd without getting her belly rubbed for "luck".


Wtf?

FreudianSlippers

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

What kind of weird adult is wanting to touch other children (RB talking about people tickling his child!?), or feels the need to even interact with children if they're not an a disciplinary setting?

I see where you're coming from, and I agree with Russell Brand on this, but I often talk to kids, because they're far more interesting than most adults.

I'd never go up and tickle them, mind you, that's just weird. I'm talking about stuff like standing at a traffic lights when parents and kids are walking their dog, and asking "what's your dogs name?" I've never had a negative reaction and I wouldn't have one if someone did that to my kid.

If anything, I find rather find uncomfortable the idea that people ought to only interact with kids in a disciplinary setting. Someday these kids have to grow up and learn to interact with society, understanding that strangers can be friendly too.

Brussels Sprout

I overheard that Frank McDonald interview in the car and figured people might be discussing it on here. it got feisty!

Mad_maxx

Uncharted wrote: »

Frank Mc Donald seems to want all of Dublin to himself.

Being chief nimbyist for the city is his full time job it seems.

He is a dinosaur. Jog on Frank.

Insufferable smug tosser

Mad_maxx

sydthebeat wrote: »

i dont agree with Frank McDonalds views... but he is an expert on the planning system and developemnt and she is a simply lay person as far as thats involved... why does she think her opinion on this actually matters a jot? She didnt challenge his views with any intelligent debate at all.... simply shouted over him in ignorant rabble..... it wa s actually embarrassing

I work in that industry.... and when she came out and expressly said "build any thing anywhere" i actually laughed out loud.... she has no idea of the complete cluster fcuk that would cause.

Mc Donald is an expert on nothing bar being a self regarding snob who loves the sound of his own voice

Mad_maxx

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

in fairness, and I like Frank McDonald, some of what he said was BS.

Temple Bar is not a residential area, there are few people, except for students, who actively seek it out as a place to live. The idea that it should be treated like Rathgar or Terenure is completely bonkers.

Having said that, I wonder what kind of capacity even exists there to build upwards. I avoid Temple Bar inasmuch as I can, but I don't ever see a lot of space for building. And a huge proportion of its buildings are protected structures.

But the bottom line is, it ISN'T residential, and most students would happily live there, if there is capacity. I really don't see the problem.

Mc Donald views student accommodation as distasteful, especially when it's near him

givyjoe

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Insufferable smug tosser

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Mc Donald is an expert on nothing bar being a self regarding snob who loves the sound of his own voice

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Mc Donald views student accommodation as distasteful, especially when it's near him

Tell us how you really feel :pac::D

Uncharted

The section on "neighbours from hell" illustrates the utter helplessness of being in that situation.

A tennis match between authorities ensues whilst mental health and dignity gets diminished.

I was in that situation myself some years back.
It was hell.

The only thing that stopped it was an intervention by "unconventional" means.

Mr E

Was I the only one expecting to see much worse with that lingerie item? Seems very harmless to me... You'd see more skin at the beach.

https://twitter.com/LunchtimeLiveNT/status/1093441790412247041

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Latest JNLR figures are out:

Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly – Reach 105,000 (Up 4,000 Book-on-Book, up 6,000 Year-on-Year)

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Mr E wrote: »

Was I the only one expecting to see much worse with that lingerie item? Seems very harmless to me... You'd see more skin at the beach.

https://twitter.com/LunchtimeLiveNT/status/1093441790412247041

I think in today's world, and given that his children are 10 and 12, I'd imagine they have seen a lot more graphic images. Maybe not in public display granted.

The whole marketing and advertisement industry is predicated on projecting non-common things as easily attainable or as simply 'desirable'. The implication being that what you are/have is not enough. I'd have a bigger problem with that in general than this specific image.

meeeeh

Confused foreigner here so I might be more used of underwear ads but surely wast majority of people are not offended by that? I didn't hear the item.

Btw those are some seriously impressive listenership numbers for Ivan Yates (the rest are doing well too it seems).