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Ibrahim Halawa acquited(mod warning in op-Heed it)

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    #3062
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 85,919 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    First Up wrote: »
    Its hear hear by the way.

    The kid got himself into a bad situation and paid a high price for it. He deserves sympathy, not demonisation. The attempts to label him as a terrorist or similar fully deserve to be mocked.

    The "kid" chose to get himself into a bad situation


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    #3063
    givyjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    The "kid" chose to get himself into a bad situation

    So, what do you mean.. fully grown man :rolleyes:? He didn't choose to get himself locked up for 4 years without having, you know, committed a crime. Seems necessary to remind people of this in between all the barmy conspiracy theories and bitterness.


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    #3064
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    givyjoe wrote: »
    So, what do you mean.. fully grown man :rolleyes:? He didn't choose to get himself locked up for 4 years without having, you know, committed a crime. Seems necessary to remind people of this in between all the barmy conspiracy theories and bitterness.

    No, but he and his sisters knowingly and unnecessarily put themselves into a very dangerous situation. They should be feeling a bit shamefaced about the trouble and expense they have put the Irish Government, Civil Service and tax payers to. But there is no evidence of that.


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    #3065
    givyjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Silas Most Keypunch wrote: »
    No, but he and his sisters knowingly and unnecessarily put themselves into a very dangerous situation. They should be feeling a bit shamefaced about the trouble and expense they have put the Irish Government, Civil Service and tax payers to. But there is no evidence of that.

    How exactly was he in danger? The only danger he seemed to be in was from over zealous authorities looking to stamp out protests, and then lock people up without charge.

    Again on danger, I keep reading posts from folks doubting his poor treatment in prison and how he doesn't like someone who was tortured etc. If you were to believe these folks, then he really wasn't in any danger at all. Can't have it both ways.


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    #3066
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    givyjoe wrote: »
    How exactly was he in danger? The only danger he seemed to be in was from over zealous authorities looking to stamp out protests, and then lock people up without charge.

    Again on danger, I keep reading posts from folks doubting his poor treatment in prison and how he doesn't like someone who was tortured etc. If you were to believe these folks, then he really wasn't in any danger at all. Can't have it both ways.

    There was a government warning not to travel to Egypt at the time. I doubt if they dish out those warnings lightly.

    Not only did the Halawas ignore the warning and travel anyway, they got into the thick of the action once they were there.


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    #3067
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,940 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    The "kid" chose to get himself into a bad situation

    Don't we all


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    #3068
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Don't we all

    Not really the same though is it?


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    #3069
    deco nate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Don't we all

    Not really, not to the extent he went to.
    Don't know one person that went to his family's extent.
    We all do stupid stuff, but.....


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    #3070
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    First Up wrote: »
    It is. How many of them there is could be another matter.

    Indeed
    Yet no effort to identify much less quantify, Why bother when generalisations rather than specifics are so much easier to hide behind.


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    #3071
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    pablo128 wrote: »
    There was a government warning not to travel to Egypt at the time. I doubt if they dish out those warnings lightly.

    Not only did the Halawas ignore the warning and travel anyway, they got into the thick of the action once they were there.

    This is what the Halawas went to Egypt to support ...

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanley-weiss/in-egypt-seeing-the-musli_b_6786356.html?ncid=engmodushpmg00000006


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    #3072
    First Up
    Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Roger Hassenforder wrote:
    Indeed Yet no effort to identify much less quantify, Why bother when generalisations rather than specifics are so much easier to hide behind.


    So are internet user names.


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    #3073
    givyjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    pablo128 wrote: »
    There was a government warning not to travel to Egypt at the time. I doubt if they dish out those warnings lightly.

    Not only did the Halawas ignore the warning and travel anyway, they got into the thick of the action once they were there.

    Again, what was he in danger of? I'm fairly sure the travel warning wasn't in anticipation of the Egyptians rounding people up and locking them away.


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    #3074
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    First Up wrote: »
    So are internet user names.

    Says your man/woman/collective* using their real name...Jeez, the hypocrisy is strong in this one.

    These user names make it all the easier to avoid libelling people when you identify all these racist and/or bigots with their "real reasons" for posting in this thread.
    Or you can continue to obfuscate, avoiding the core issue most of us have with this kid, his family and their "cause".

    "but...but...racists and bigots" doesn't really butter the parsnips.


    *don't really care TBH


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    #3075
    First Up
    Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Roger Hassenforder wrote:
    "but...but...racists and bigots" doesn't really butter the parsnips.

    Words I have never used.

    The only people libelled in this thread are the Halawas.


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    #3076
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    First Up wrote: »
    So are internet user names.

    Yeah you don’t get to use that one unless the Up family called their kid First.


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    #3077
    First Up
    Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    The Fake Sheikh wrote:
    Yeah you don’t get to use that one unless the Up family called their kid First.


    Ah but there is just one of me.


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    #3078
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Quelle surprise

    Ibrahim Halawa will reveal all on four-year imprisonment in Egypt on Friday's Late Late Show

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/ibrahim-halawa-will-reveal-all-on-fouryear-imprisonment-in-egypt-on-fridays-late-late-show-36280049.html

    Reveal all I doubt it. No mention of the MB most likely.


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    #3079
    givyjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    cisk wrote: »
    Quelle surprise

    Ibrahim Halawa will reveal all on four-year imprisonment in Egypt on Friday's Late Late Show

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/ibrahim-halawa-will-reveal-all-on-fouryear-imprisonment-in-egypt-on-fridays-late-late-show-36280049.html

    Most here should be delighted with that, should then be able to get the answers they so desperately crave.


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    #3080
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Most here should be delighted with that, should then be able to get the answers they so desperately crave.

    You know well enough the questions that a lot of people want asked won’t be asked.


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    #3081
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    All the the while an elected official in Zappone standing there smiling and waving like an utter fool. Ironic thing is it will be those same people shouting Allah Akbar that won't be giving her the time of day if they have their way.

    Since Zappone was in New York last night, I wonder if she visited any of the families of those who were massacred by the terrorist shouting Allah Akbar after mowing down innocent civilians in the city yesterday, or maybe she would consider visiting the injured in local hospital to try and make amends for her abhorrent actions at Dublin airport.

    Zappone was in New York last night to tell the United Nations how great she was in bringing in migrants from the jungle camp in Calais ... with her announcement that more were on the way.


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    #3082
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Since Zappone was in New York last night, I wonder if she visited any of the families of those who were massacred by the terrorist shouting Allah Akbar after mowing down innocent civilians in the city yesterday, or maybe she would consider visiting the injured in local hospital to try and make amends for her abhorrent actions at Dublin airport.

    Zappone was in New York last night to tell the United Nations how great she was in bringing in migrants from the jungle camp in Calais ... with her announcement that more were on the way.

    What abhorrent action did she do? I must have missed that.

    I see Halawa is to be on the Late Late. I'm glad the guy finally got his trial but I have absolutely no interest in seeing Ryan Tubridy fawn on him for the night.


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    #3083
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,447 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Most here should be delighted with that, should then be able to get the answers they so desperately crave.

    Great chance for the national broadcaster to put a few pertinent questions to him...


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    #3084
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Most here should be delighted with that, should then be able to get the answers they so desperately crave.
    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Great chance for the national broadcaster to put a few pertinent questions to him...


    Wouldn't hold my breath on that. Nice soft line of questioning, nothing controversial and loads of ''so yer just a real Dub lad at heart aren't ya Ibrahim'' that Tubs usually butters guests up with.


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    #3085
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Great chance for the national broadcaster to put a few pertinent questions to him...

    Hahahahahahahahaha. He will be treated like a hero, it is embarrassing.


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    #3086
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    My money is on him saying a cúpla focal to a beaming and clapping Tubridy followed by “So you missed 4 All Irelands when you were locked up”

    It will be a puke fest.


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    #3087
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,447 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    Hahahahahahahahaha. He will be treated like a hero, it is embarrassing.

    Yep. As I said previously in this thread the way it's going wouldn't be surprised if the crowd give him a standing ovation and start chanting alla Akbar when he comes on


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    #3088
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    My money is on him saying a cúpla focal to a beaming and clapping Tubridy followed by “So you missed 4 All Irelands when you were locked up”

    It will be a puke fest.


    What a surprise he is to appear on the LLS :rolleyes:

    Still - maybe everyone in the audience will all be given a free "get out of jail card"? ...


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    #3089
    Mutant z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    On the LLS on friday how very predictable will Tubs ask him the hard questions not bloody likely.


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    #3090
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,447 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    Hahahahahahahahaha. He will be treated like a hero, it is embarrassing.

    Yep. As I said previously in this thread the way it's going wouldn't be surprised if the crowd give him a standing ovation and start chanting alla Akbar when he comes on


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    #3091
    quintana76
    Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Bet it we will be pre recorded an hour or so beforehand. Otherwise a leftie or an ill informed audience. Actually on reflection is there any difference between the two.


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