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Ibrahim Halawa acquited(mod warning in op-Heed it)

  • 18-09-2017 4:08pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    So after 4 years in prison and over 30 adjournments he's finally acquited on all charges

    link

    I can sense a lot of people aren't going to be happy


    Mod-Re-opening this thread on the strict condition that the charter is adhered to and that common sense prevails.

    The thread was previously closed as it was a colossal trainwreck.

    Discuss the topic and stay civil with each other. There is an interview coming up that we want to have a civil discussion about, if you cannot remain civil don't post, or if the mod team feel that you are turning the thread into another incarnation of the trainwreck, we will ask you not to post in the thread.

    Anyone previously thread banned is still thread banned.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Why wouldn't people be happy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Well that was sudden


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Effects wrote: »
    Why wouldn't people be happy?

    You'll see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭JaMarcusHustle


    This post has been deleted.

    Read a comment on the Journal (I know, that was my first mistake) from some absolute moron who said she cried in her living room when she heard the news.

    I wanted to punt my laptop off the ****ing balcony.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Well he won't do that again in a hurry.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    This post has been deleted.

    Well the Ryanair flight was cancelled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Is this not good news?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    I'm predicting 4 pages of actual discussion and another 6 pages of complete muck before this thread is locked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Is that the terrorist fella?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Who does he play for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,440 ✭✭✭Wailin


    You'll see

    I think the goal of your thread is plain to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Is that the terrorist fella?

    Not any more :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    So, we will have a national holiday named after him soon. Obviously enough, he will be on the LLS this week.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    All those comedians who were parked in that Halawa thread in the old Politics Cafe won't be a happy bunch today.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I'd say he's mad for a Supermacs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    "Ryanair flight FR 1234"

    "Passport please sir "

    " ......... "


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Wailin wrote: »
    I think the goal of your thread is plain to see.

    I read a bit of the old politics threads on the case, it's pretty obvious what the reaction will be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I care as much about his release as I did about his imprisonment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,546 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I read a bit of the old politics threads on the case, it's pretty obvious what the reaction will be

    How do you feel, give us your insight?

    EVENFLOW



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  • Posts: 2,001 [Deleted User]


    I like the way RTE finally aluded to the aqusations against Ibrahim's father, that he has connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. Not one news organization dared to investigate though. I guess we'll just take his word for it.
    His father is Imam of Dublin's Clonskeagh mosque and represents Irish Muslims at many events.
    Despite suggestions to the contrary, Hussein Halawa denies any connection to the Muslim Brotherhood. His family and supporters continued to call for his son's freedom,
    https://www.rte.ie/news/special-reports/2017/0918/905614-ibrahim-halawa/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    I'd like to see a journalist ask some hard questions as to why he was really there and why he went on stage during a Muslim brotherhood rally and started addressing a large crowd. He was, as we are led to believe, there on holidays.

    But no-one will have the balls to ask that and it will all be soft-soaped.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    How do you feel, give us your insight?

    I'm glad he finally got his trial, iirc, that's all I ever said on the matter. Holding an innocent man for 4 years is disgraceful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    I'd like to see a journalist ask some hard questions as to why he was really there and why he went on stage during a Muslim brotherhood rally and started addressing a large crowd. He was, as we are led to believe, there on holidays.

    But no-one will have the balls to ask that and it will all be soft-soaped.

    He'll be on with Turps in a week or 2 and you can be sure no hard questions will be asked:mad:.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He was only a kid of 17


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    I'd like to see a journalist ask some hard questions as to why he was really there and why he went on stage during a Muslim brotherhood rally and started addressing a large crowd. He was, as we are led to believe, there on holidays.

    But no-one will have the balls to ask that and it will all be soft-soaped.

    But that would probably be seen as racist though :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,546 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I'm glad he finally got his trial, iirc, that's all I ever said on the matter. Holding an innocent man for 4 years is disgraceful

    Respect your opinion.

    While I do agree fully that he should have got a fair trial 100%, I be still concerned about 2 things.

    Why he was arrested in first place
    And the dangerous links his family has.

    But I don't know the full facts. But if his family are associated with MB and nobody has stated otherwise including his family this chap maybe no Saint.

    Nothing else to say.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Play with fire and youre going to get burnt.

    I'm glad I wont have to hear anything in the news or radio every couple of days about him soon.

    Unless he gets a large sum of money to produce a documentary on his life the past few years...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    He was only a kid of 17

    And ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Effects wrote: »
    Why wouldn't people be happy?

    I'd say a lot of racists are very unhappy right now...
    This post has been deleted.

    Yes, home. To the country where he was born.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Donal55 wrote: »
    And ...

    Can anyone say they never made mistakes or had poor judgment at that age? He was only a teenager


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I'd like to see a journalist ask some hard questions as to why he was really there and why he went on stage during a Muslim brotherhood rally and started addressing a large crowd. He was, as we are led to believe, there on holidays.

    But no-one will have the balls to ask that and it will all be soft-soaped.

    Sortof irrelevant to the issue of being acquitted on the charges of which he was accused after a four year process though, no?

    Doubtless the Gardai etc will note his Brotherhood links for future reference, but if the charge wasn't "Supporting the Brotherhood", does that matter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Delighted he's been acquitted. Was a disgrace how it's been handled over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭gw80


    I have seen some of the comments on Facebook and elsewere, and the vast majority of supporters for this guy are women.
    And of the women that i know on Facebook , i know that they did not do any research on this guy,
    What gives?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭bullpost


    gw80 wrote: »
    I have seen some of the comments on Facebook and elsewere, and the vast majority of supporters for this guy are women.
    And of the women that i know on Facebook , i know that they did not do any research on this guy,
    What gives?

    Smouldering latin looks ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Bet he can't wait to get home to his Egyptian cotton towels...................................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Better that he is released, the interest in him will die down now thankfully that it is all over.

    Anyway, as long as he (and his silent Dad from the Clonskeagh Mosque), together with the daughters who now want their Turkish Muslim arranged spouses granted free entry here are kept in the sights I will be kind of happy.

    Hope he is never interviewed on any channel here either. FGS. Leave that to his legal advisors please.

    First up though LLS Quelle Surprise.

    When is he coming home to the bosom of his family anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,201 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    RayM wrote: »
    I'd say a lot of racists are very unhappy right now...

    Yes, home. To the country where he was born.

    Oh it's so easy to throw out the racism card and thus try to stifle any questions or debate on the issue isn't it? I don't think many are buying anymore though.

    And there are questions to be asked... like (as mentioned above) he was on-stage addressing a crowd while allegedly on holidays.

    Yes, the ridiculously delayed trial/hearing of the case is a disgrace - but.. their country, their rules - and good for him that he's been released.

    But it doesn't erase the questions and motivations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    He'll be on with Turps in a week or 2 and you can be sure no hard questions will be asked:mad:.

    Ian O'Doherty may ask those questions. Not to Halawa directly as there will be a wall of silence around those issues from his camp.

    But O'Doherty will get harangued and screeched at from the Far-Left if and when he does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭gw80


    Nice for him that he is coming 'home'. Hopefully he learned his lesson after his Egyptian holiday.




    Pathological altruism.

    Twill be the ruination of us,i tells ya


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Oh it's so easy to throw out the racism card and thus try to stifle any questions or debate on the issue isn't it? I don't think many are buying anymore though.

    It's extremely easy to throw out the racism card, especially when After Hours is absolutely riddled with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭TheShow


    Start Interview:
    Tubs: so, did you get a cup of Barry's tea yet?
    IH: I did.
    Tubs: great, thanks for coming on the show.
    End Interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Ian O'Doherty may ask those questions. Not to Halawa directly as there will be a wall of silence around those issues.

    But O'Doherty will get harangued and screeched at from the Far-Left.

    No it won't happen.

    George Hook is gone as a result of that.

    We are just nodding donkeys in unison now. Nothing can be said that doesn't conform to the Leftie Liberal mantra.

    It is worse than North Korea here now.

    Free speech, you must be joking!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    He was only a kid of 17

    So what?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Oh it's so easy to throw out the racism card and thus try to stifle any questions or debate on the issue isn't it? I don't think many are buying anymore though.

    And there are questions to be asked... like (as mentioned above) he was on-stage addressing a crowd while allegedly on holidays.

    Yes, the ridiculously delayed trial/hearing of the case is a disgrace - but.. their country, their rules - and good for him that he's been released.

    But it doesn't erase the questions and motivations.
    I totally disagree on the their country their rules part. The right to a fair and timely trial is a basic human right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,201 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    RayM wrote: »
    It's extremely easy to throw out the racism card, especially when After Hours is absolutely riddled with them.

    Newsflash: No matter how much people like yourself may like to believe that anyone who thinks otherwise is a big oul racist, xenophobe (or whatever other emotive nonsense ye care to use), someone's skin colour, religion, or country of origin doesn't make them immune from scrutiny.

    Not just applicable to this individual/case either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,901 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    He was only a kid of 17

    What age was the lad who planted the bomb on the London Underground on Friday? 18 or 19, wasn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,780 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I did think EOTR would beat Ray to the "rascism" card but EOTR is slowing down.


    Mod-Banned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    splashuum wrote: »
    Is this not good news?

    Depends who you ask. !
    It was a political verdict rather than a judicial one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    gw80 wrote: »
    I have seen some of the comments on Facebook and elsewere, and the vast majority of supporters for this guy are women.
    And of the women that i know on Facebook , i know that they did not do any research on this guy,
    What gives?

    Have a look at the hpv anti vaxer stuff on Facebook. You'll see a similar pattern.


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