Flat earth believers

Chancer3001 · 22-08-2017 3:05pm

It's already been hit on the head a few times. They don't REALLY believe it. Just want to seem cool and opinionated and not a sheep

If one of them REALLY believed it sure they'd just rent a boat and sail to the end and become world famous as the one to reveal the hoax

jamesbere · 22-08-2017 3:33pm

Chancer3001 wrote: »

It's already been hit on the head a few times. They don't REALLY believe it. Just want to seem cool and opinionated and not a sheep

If one of them REALLY believed it sure they'd just rent a boat and sail to the end and become world famous as the one to reveal the hoax

They'd have to leave their room to prove that, I think that's the major stumbling block

Sam Kade · 22-08-2017 3:58pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no need for the 20 mile walk. put a 1 foot long stick into the ground. walk about a mile and a half. the stick will be hidden by the curvature of the earth.

Simple out but you are forgetting that that mile and a half of ground needs to be the same height above sea level and you would want a telescope and a higher marker to see where the stick is.

ohnonotgmail · 22-08-2017 4:00pm

Sam Kade wrote: »

Simple out but you are forgetting that that mile of ground needs to be the same height above sea level and you would want a telescope and a higher marker to see where the stick is.

the post i replied to mentioned the bonneville salt flats. i think they would be flat enough for this purpose. If you want a higher marker you need to walk further. who wants to do that

Sam Kade · 22-08-2017 4:03pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the post i replied to mentioned the bonneville salt flats. i think they would be flat enough for this purpose. If you want a higher marker you need to walk further. who wants to do that

Well if you want to pinpoint where the stick is a mile and a half away you'll need a higher marker as the stick will be hidden.

knucklehead6 · 22-08-2017 4:07pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no need for the 20 mile walk. put a 1 foot long stick into the ground. walk about a mile and a half. the stick will be hidden by the curvature of the earth.

i'm trying to tire him out so he doesn't have the energy to argue!! :P;):D

Zubeneschamali · 22-08-2017 5:38pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Man landed on the moon in 1969 mainly due to an intense ideological battle between the US and USSR, for which no expense was spared. Once it had "been done" several times public and scientific demand simply hasn't been sufficient to fund another trip

Carl Sagan did the sums in the 70s and said the cost of each Apollo mission compared to the sunk cost of R&D for the program was about the cost of a fill of petrol after you have bought a Rolls Royce.

It made no scientific or economic sense to cancel the program, but it wasn't done for scientific or economic reasons in the first place.

Are Am Eye · 22-08-2017 5:59pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Carl Sagan did the sums in the 70s and said the cost of each Apollo mission compared to the sunk cost of R&D for the program was about the cost of a fill of petrol after you have bought a Rolls Royce.

It made no scientific or economic sense to cancel the program, but it wasn't done for scientific or economic reasons in the first place.

Stanley Kubrick had other movie projects he wanted to press on with as well.

Capt'n Midnight · 22-08-2017 7:19pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Actually go way back before Copernicus
...
The more accepted one wasn't and underestimated the size of the globe. It was this figure that convinced Columbus and others that on the other side of the Atlantic was the Indies. Finding the Americas and the Pacific in the way was a bit of a problem...

Columbus used the shorter figure to get funding otherwise the distance would have been too far.

Eristosthenes was the first to give an accurate measurement by measuring the the angle to the sun at two different points and the distance between them.

Capt'n Midnight · 22-08-2017 7:32pm

valoren wrote: »

The physics of how to go to the moon has been known for hundreds of years
...
The orbital rendezvous techniques used decades old technology such as RADIO communication (that wavey stuff goes quite fast) and RADAR technology ( i.e. microwaves, same 'thing' as radio).

From the John D. Clark book Ignition

in 1903 Konstantin Eduardovitch Tsiolkovsky published a little read article

The substance of the article can be summarized in five simple statements.
1. Space travel is possible.
2. This can be accomplished by means of, and only by means of,
rocket propulsion, since a rocket is the only known propulsive
device which will work in empty space.
3. Gunpowder rockets cannot be used, since gunpowder (or smokeless powder either, for that matter) simply does not have enough
energy to do the job.
4. Certain liquids do possess the necessary energy
5. Liquid hydrogen would be a good fuel and liquid oxygen a good
oxidizer, and the pair would make a nearly ideal propellant combination.

The key points are the last two. Until then even a super massive rocket would have problems getting anything to orbit.

It's interesting to note that the German V2 technology would not have got to space. The fuel was alcohol diluted with water. Also the tanks were separate to the structure so lots of extra weight. And the engine used vanes for steering rather than by pointing the nozzle so lots of energy lost.

So no Nazi's on the moon either.

Ipso · 22-08-2017 7:32pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Columbus used the shorter figure to get funding otherwise the distance would have been too far.

Eristosthenes was the first to give an accurate measurement by measuring the the angle to the sun at two different points and the distance between them.

Who would have thought that theorems had a practical use?

paleoperson · 22-08-2017 8:16pm

If the world is flat, then how come you can't see America when you look out the window?

Checkmate Flat-earthists.

Capt'n Midnight · 22-08-2017 8:43pm

paleoperson wrote: »

If the world is flat, then how come you can't see America when you look out the window?

Because it's always raining somewhere in the North Atlantic , or foggy or snowing or spray whipped up off the waves.

Also it's very far and the pollution from the Americans creates a haze.

Before motor cars and industrialisation on fine days people used to be able to see Hy-Brasil or Tir Na nÓg. Where do you think St Brendan was sailing to ?

22-08-2017 8:46pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Everyone knows there's less air the higher up you go.

So the atmosphere acts like a giant lens thicker in the middle because there's more air and thinner at the top. And like a mirage this bends the rays of light which is why the horizon appears to curve even though it doesn't.

Except that if you're looking in a horizontal direction the atmosphere (on a flat Earth) would remain at the same pressure so there would be no refraction.
So the ship sailing to the edge would still appear to get infinitely smaller.

Spider Web · 22-08-2017 11:50pm

Mint Sauce wrote: »

He's right about the moon thing at least.

It can't be stated with certainty that it never happened, to be fair.

iDave wrote: »

Is it any worse than believing in 76 genders

No.

Hector Savage · 24-08-2017 9:15am

Another obvious one, Go to southern hemisphere, look at night sky, notice stars are completely different.

Capt'n Midnight · 25-08-2017 10:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Except that if you're looking in a horizontal direction the atmosphere (on a flat Earth) would remain at the same pressure so there would be no refraction.

so explain mirages then ????

checkmate atheist

it may be because more air piles up at the centre than the edges ?

Capt'n Midnight · 25-08-2017 10:18pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

Another obvious one, Go to southern hemisphere, look at night sky, notice stars are completely different.

D'oh

you are looking up at a different part of the celestial sphere.

for the stars to look the same from all parts of the world they would have to be ridiculously far away

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 25-08-2017 10:34pm

branie2 wrote: »

Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round

Believing this is almost as daft as believing in a flat earth.

LordSutch · 03-09-2017 5:43am

If it is flat why would we pretend its round?

What's to be gained from such a lie?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 03-09-2017 10:57am

So where fire all the water go when it falls off the edge?

Samaris · 03-09-2017 10:59am

How do flat earthers cope with the horizon? Or airplanes?

Capt'n Midnight · 03-09-2017 11:24am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So where fire all the water go when it falls off the edge?

As we all know water boils at a lower temperature when there is lower pressure. And as water falls over the edge it encounters the vacuum of space and boils, evaporates and sublimes to fall as rain later on.

C'mon guys the earth is the centre of the universe where else would the water go ?

branie2 · 03-09-2017 3:29pm

Their beliefs fall flat

by8auj6csd3ioq · 04-09-2017 1:48pm

paleoperson wrote: »

If the world is flat, then how come you can't see America when you look out the window?

Checkmate Flat-earthists.

Cos Tesco is in the way

Hector Savage · 14-11-2017 9:28am

Christ almighty I weep for humanity ..

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/41973119/why-do-people-still-think-the-earth-is-flat

Dohnjoe · 14-11-2017 10:12am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Christ almighty I weep for humanity ..

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/41973119/why-do-people-still-think-the-earth-is-flat

They actually seemed pretty chilled out in a hippy way

Hector Savage · 14-11-2017 10:17am

Dohnjoe wrote: »

They actually seemed pretty chilled out in a hippy way

But to actually BELIEVE this nonsense ?

The woman at the end summed it up, she walked along the shore with a "straight edge" (ruler) and held it against the Horizon.

Impeccable rigorous scientific method there :rolleyes:

SlowBlowin · 14-11-2017 10:22am

Does he have Sky/Satellite TV ?

Ask him where it comes from ?

SB

Steve F · 14-11-2017 10:39am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Christ almighty I weep for humanity ..

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/41973119/why-do-people-still-think-the-earth-is-flat

It's as plain as the nose on your face why people peddle this clap trap
MONEY!!!
You will find at the back of any these things someone somewhere is making a buck out of the gullible

Flat earth believers

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