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Rickshaws -- do you like them or hate them?

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    #62
    Lord Glentoran
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    They are a rip-off. Won’t be missed.


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    #63
    LiamoSail
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It's obviously not happening as other posters alluded to these rickshaws are dangerous. The Gardai aren't obviously doing enough to stop them driving dangerously because there are still plenty out there driving dangerously. They rip people off, they're dangerous, I would imagine a percentage of drivers are illegal immigrants and should be deported, they're drug dealing and they are also a nuisance in the sense that they are trying to hassle people into using them. I honestly can't think of any good points about them. Can you?

    They're environmentally friendly and provide an in demand service. You know the fare before you engage a Rick shaw, so hardly a rip off. I'd rather pay a tenner from the Point after a gig to O'Connel bridge than walk, so not really a rip off in that regard.

    I guess plenty are selling drugs, I don't particularly care; I'm not buying so doesn't affect me. I'm not too pushed whether my bus, Luas or taxi driver is doing smiler either, once they're capable of providing the service I have engaged them for.

    There is an issue with regard to safety and regulation, but it's not insurmountable


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    #64
    Esel
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    So some of them are dope pedallers, and the rest are just dopes? :D

    Not your ornery onager



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    #65
    Del.Monte
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    LiamoSail wrote: »
    They're environmentally friendly and provide an in demand service. You know the fare before you engage a Rick shaw, so hardly a rip off. I'd rather pay a tenner from the Point after a gig to O'Connel bridge than walk, so not really a rip off in that regard.

    I guess plenty are selling drugs, I don't particularly care; I'm not buying so doesn't affect me. I'm not too pushed whether my bus, Luas or taxi driver is doing smiler either, once they're capable of providing the service I have engaged them for.

    There is an issue with regard to safety and regulation, but it's not insurmountable

    What a feckin attitude!

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    #66
    MarkY91
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    Some are drug dealers.

    They charge a laughable fee to go down the road.

    They are careless. Almost as careless and retarded as the deliveroo cyclists ..almost.


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    #67
    Stephen15
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    LiamoSail wrote: »
    They're environmentally friendly and provide an in demand service. You know the fare before you engage a Rick shaw, so hardly a rip off. I'd rather pay a tenner from the Point after a gig to O'Connel bridge than walk, so not really a rip off in that regard.

    I guess plenty are selling drugs, I don't particularly care; I'm not buying so doesn't affect me. I'm not too pushed whether my bus, Luas or taxi driver is doing smiler either, once they're capable of providing the service I have engaged them for.

    There is an issue with regard to safety and regulation, but it's not insurmountable

    Rickshaws solely operate in Dublin CC. Nowhere in Dublin CC is not within walking distance of another part of Dublin CC. People who take rickshaws should be walking which is also environmentally friendly. Why can't you get the Luas from the Point to O'Connell Street another environmentally form of transport and cheaper than one of these cowboys.

    The rickshaw is attractive because it's unregulated. If it was regulated no one would take up the oppurtunity to run a rickshaw business or drive one.


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    #68
    McCrack
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Rickshaws solely operate in Dublin CC. Nowhere in Dublin CC is not within walking distance of another part of Dublin CC. People who take rickshaws should be walking which is also environmentally friendly. Why can't you get the Luas from the Point to O'Connell Street another environmentally form of transport and cheaper than one of these cowboys.

    The rickshaw is attractive because it's unregulated. If it was regulated no one would take up the oppurtunity to run a rickshaw business or drive one.

    Nah

    If youre in town after drinking etc and you want to hop the other side of the Liffey or wherever they serve a purpose when it can be difficult to get a taxi.

    They provide a service that people are entitled to use and pay for.


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    #69
    Stephen15
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    McCrack wrote: »
    Nah

    If youre in town after drinking etc and you want to hop the other side of the Liffey or wherever they serve a purpose when it can be difficult to get a taxi.

    They provide a service that people are entitled to use and pay for.

    In a manner which puts yourself and others in danger. They are unsafe simple as. Just because you want to use one doesn't mean others should put in unesscary danger. Would you be in favour of them if you involved in an accident in them?


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    #70
    McCrack
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    In a manner which puts yourself and others in danger. They are unsafe simple as. Just because you want to use one doesn't mean others should put in unesscary danger. Would you be in favour of them if you involved in an accident in them?

    There are inherent risks with every mode of transportation

    I am quite happy to take my chances


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    #71
    Stephen15
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    McCrack wrote: »
    There are inherent risks with every mode of transportation

    I am quite happy to take my chances

    Yeah but at least other modes are insured and you can claim if you are injured. Other methods have taken measure to mitigate the risks. Rickshaws have not. Your more likely to get injured travelling by rickshaw than walking, bus or taxi.

    Also not everyone is happy to take their chances especially if your living depends on it.


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    #72
    McCrack
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Yeah but at least other modes are insured and you can claim if you are injured. Other methods have taken measure to mitigate the risks. Rickshaws have not. Your more likely to get injured travelling by rickshaw than walking, bus or taxi.

    Also not everyone is happy to take their chances especially if your living depends on it.

    If there was an accident involving a Rickshaw it would depend who was negligent - it doesn't automatically mean a passenger cannot claim for an injury - other road users have insurance and if they do not the MIBI will step in.

    Anyway they provide a service and for that reason I welcome them. People can choose to use them or not.


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    #73
    Del.Monte
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    How the hell did we ever manage to get around without them. The whole population will eventually end up like the passengers and crew on the "Axiom". :rolleyes:

    1ddd88cd1d4bf65df6be9d0bbf08aca4

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    #74
    magicbastarder
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Yeah but at least other modes are insured and you can claim if you are injured. Other methods have taken measure to mitigate the risks. Rickshaws have not. Your more likely to get injured travelling by rickshaw than walking, bus or taxi.
    again, i am hearing the drawbacks of lack of regulation as being used as an excuse for refusing to consider regulation.
    i recently had to walk from the national concert hall to the far end of capel street, and the sooner i got there, the better. i hate the idea that i have to call on the services of a car to achieve this trip.
    why are people so hung up on the current execution of a concept being the only example possible of that concept?


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    #75
    Stephen15
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    again, i am hearing the drawbacks of lack of regulation as being used as an excuse for refusing to consider regulation.
    i recently had to walk from the national concert hall to the far end of capel street, and the sooner i got there, the better. i hate the idea that i have to call on the services of a car to achieve this trip.
    why are people so hung up on the current execution of a concept being the only example possible of that concept?

    The thing about regulation is you would have to pay a large number of civil servants to regulate the industry which would cost a lot of money. The real reason why the rickshaw business is attractive is because it is unregulated if you regulated it would no likely longer exist as it would be no longer be lucrative to get involved and it would also be likely that a large number of the current crop of drivers would not be eligible to apply for licences under a regulated system. So you might aswell ban them.

    You can't continue with the current free for all especially now with 24 hours buses likely fingers crossed it would only be a matter of time before someone is killed or seriously injured due to an incident caused by one. The problem in this country is it's only after a serious incident something is done to prevent another serious incident happening.


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    #76
    howiya
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Your more likely to get injured travelling by rickshaw than walking, bus or taxi.

    Are there statistics on this?


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    #77
    Stephen15
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    howiya wrote: »
    Are there statistics on this?

    No but when was the last you heard of someone being injured in bus, taxi or Luas crash or the last time a bus, taxi or Luas driver beat and raped a passenger.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/rickshaw-driver-who-left-severely-injured-woman-in-dublin-laneway-after-raping-her-appeals-sentence-as-victim-faces-more-surgery-35485755.html


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    #78
    brokenarms
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    howiya wrote: »
    Are there statistics on this?

    Do you really need statistic to explain the bleedin obvious.

    zero crash protection
    unqualified drivers
    No vehicle testing for the actual rickshaw

    Not to mention the complete disregard for the ROTR and laws.

    What about their revenue.

    How are their earning benefiting society? I cant see a system of taxation in the massive cash fares they accumulate from the service or even their drug dealing.

    They really do need to go. They are parasites ..


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    #79
    magicbastarder
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    No but when was the last you heard of someone being injured in bus, taxi or Luas crash or the last time a bus, taxi or Luas driver beat and raped a passenger.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/rickshaw-driver-who-left-severely-injured-woman-in-dublin-laneway-after-raping-her-appeals-sentence-as-victim-faces-more-surgery-35485755.html
    what a weird and irrelevant reply.
    i know someone who was injured in a taxi crash. i know someone else who was raped by a taxi driver. people have been killed in taxi crashes. people have been killed in bus crashes, and injured in luas crashes.

    but what a weird digression, make a claim you can't stand over and your defence is 'no, no, the ball is over *here*'.


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    #80
    corks finest
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    monument wrote: »
    I hope you don't mind -- I've edited the thread title. It's about regulations for rickshaws in Ireland, not just Dublin.

    Also: It's open to all regardless of if you've used one or not.

    No regulations,no rickshaw


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    #81
    Rechuchote
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    An ecological choice for short journeys… of course they should be licensed and regulated under the taxi-for-hire legislation. Banned? No.

    As for drugs, most users would be more likely to ask a taxi driver about them than a rickshaw driver, I suspect. And rape… well:

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/taxi-drivers-wont-give-dna-for-rape-probe-union-boss-35324900.html


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    #82
    Lumen
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    I'd expect the risk of harm to a drunk person in Dublin city centre is lower for being conveyed by rickshaw than walking.

    It's also easier to puke over the side of a moving rickshaw than to puke out of the window of a moving taxi. Less blowback.


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    #83
    Lord Glentoran
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    Lumen wrote: »
    I'd expect the risk of harm to a drunk person in Dublin city centre is lower for being conveyed by rickshaw than walking.

    It's also easier to puke over the side of a moving rickshaw than to puke out of the window of a moving taxi. Less blowback.

    Enticing.


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    #84
    Mr.Frame
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    Regulation wont work,simple.

    At present the rickshaws break every rule under the sun, they go down one way streets, through red lights,on footpaths ect.

    Given that the taxi industry (which has far greater numbers of cars)has less than 15 "enforcers" for the whole country Theres not a hope in hell an enforcer will be to do anything.Besides the rickshaw drivers will just pedal away.

    Ban them I say , like they did in Galway.


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    #85
    what_traffic
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    Mr.Frame wrote: »
    Regulation wont work,simple.

    At present the rickshaws break every rule under the sun, they go down one way streets, through red lights,on footpaths ect.

    Given that the taxi industry (which has far greater numbers of cars)has less than 15 "enforcers" for the whole country Theres not a hope in hell an enforced will be to do anything.Besides the rickshaw drivers will just pedal away.

    Ban them I say , like they did in Galway.
    This was done via a By-Law in Galway City Council, who enforces that?


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    #86
    magicbastarder
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    'I was on one myself late at night' - Shane Ross left 'shocked' after rickshaw ride
    "I was on one myself late one night and I was pretty shocked quite honestly because it confirmed everything that I had heard about them," he said.
    https://www.independent.ie/incoming/i-was-on-one-myself-late-at-night-shane-ross-left-shocked-after-rickshaw-ride-36964935.html

    *everything* he had heard - obviously the driver offered minister ross some yokes as they were on stephen street. i wonder if he bought them?


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    #87
    john boye
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    'I was on one myself late at night' - Shane Ross left 'shocked' after rickshaw ride
    "I was on one myself late one night and I was pretty shocked quite honestly because it confirmed everything that I had heard about them," he said.
    https://www.independent.ie/incoming/i-was-on-one-myself-late-at-night-shane-ross-left-shocked-after-rickshaw-ride-36964935.html

    *everything* he had heard - obviously the driver offered minister ross some yokes as they were on stephen street. i wonder if he bought them?

    Would explain a lot


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    #88
    endacl
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    Rechuchote wrote: »
    An ecological choice for short journeys…
    ... would be legs.


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    #89
    Rechuchote
    Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    endacl wrote: »
    ... would be legs.

    Rickshaws are mostly leg-powered √


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    #90
    whisky_galore
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    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Rickshaws are mostly leg-powered √

    Why do they only come out at night though?

    Because it's easier to rip off drunk people?


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    #91
    LiamoSail
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Rickshaws solely operate in Dublin CC. Nowhere in Dublin CC is not within walking distance of another part of Dublin CC. People who take rickshaws should be walking which is also environmentally friendly. Why can't you get the Luas from the Point to O'Connell Street another environmentally form of transport and cheaper than one of these cowboys.

    I do walk a lot, but sometimes you want to get to your destination sooner. Regarding the Luas, it's a nightmare after a gig in the point. Also, time constraints of not going to somewhere on Luas line


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