Heavyweight Boxing

OmegaGene

that video makes the aj ramble seem normal lol

earthwormjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119751556#Comment_119751556

Not really. That seemed pretty heartfelt and genuine from wilder. Joshua's was unhinged nonsense.

https://twitter.com/BadBeatsLex/status/1581627680134377473

Good sportsmanship.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119752390#Comment_119752390

We all have different interpretations of things and I think that was a load of nonsense tbh, he respects all boxers ? He constantly slags off fury for beating him because he cheated, the man is delusional and thinking he’s back after beating helanius is a bit much

wilder is a good heavy puncher without doubt and can do damage to anyone in the division but that fight doesn’t tell me much about him

earthwormjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119752461#Comment_119752461

That's completely irrelevant to what he said in the above conference about actually getting in the ring.

No doubt he can be a clown though. Especially with wanting a body on his record and all that stuff. He should genuinely be ashamed of that sh*te and hopefully he's moved on from it.

OmegaGene

In the above video he said he respects all boxers but he clearly doesn’t, the crying while being massaged by a bloke was a bit weird

walshb

He’s a clown. Let’s leave it at that!

squinn2912

That’s a nice moment with the two lads and it’s good to see

OmegaGene

Easy nights work for wilder

squinn2912

I expected Wilder to win by KO but I thought Helenius would make it hard for him. Expected 3-4 rounds of grappling and then the ko. So where does Wilder go next? Joshua won’t entertain fighting him, especially without belts. What about Whyte now or Ruiz? A few more rounds may have helped bring Wilder on more so

OmegaGene

Apparently ruiz has been mentioned and winner is then mandatory for the wbc, wilder said he doesn’t want ruiz and wants to go straight for Usyk instead and he claims to have spoken to Usyk who promised to fight him

bearing in mind wilder spent 6 months in the mountains on medication who knows if he spoke to Usyk at all

squinn2912

I hope for Wilder’s own sake someone else did the talking, not sure how impressed Usyk would be with his rambling narrations! I think it’s a great fight

walshb

Usyk-Wilder is a great fight.....and one both can win. I think it's fair to say that Wilder could well land flush, and also, that if he does he can take Usyk out.

Butson

Wilder will fight Ruiz next I would think. Both PBC fighters, easy to arrange.

That's a good fight too. Wilder v anybody is worth watching.

squinn2912

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119754891#Comment_119754891

I’m going with Wilder here for the KO

OmegaGene

Mauricio from the wbc has confirmed that wilder vs ruiz will be ordered next week as a final eliminator to find the next mandatory opponent for Tyson fury

walshb

A great match. I think the right uppercut from Wilder will be his key..

Ruiz got to AJs head and chin. Wilder slightly taller, but Ruiz can land.

Wilder’s chin is so so. Any time hit clean, he has been in trouble…

please, I don’t want to hear iron chin nonsense. Any time Fury hit him clean he was all over the shop. Ortiz had him gone as well, only for the poor follow up

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119766184#Comment_119766184

I think Ruiz wont get close , it'll be like AJ 2 but he'll get blasted out much earlier,

Wilder's Jab very under rated & once Ruiz steps inside he will be blasted to never never land , Lets not forget Chris Arreola had Ruiz over,

Ortiz is a very big puncher did he put him over or did Wilder just wobble can't remember,

He took a beating from Fury & kept getting up ,Having a bad chin only matter's if you don't get back up

One thing we have learned from Wilder is that has loads of hearth , I can't see Ruiz stopping him i just don't thin he has it in him ,

Taxes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119766241#Comment_119766241

Agreed, I’m not sure if Wilder was put over by Ortiz, although he was wobbled.

I also agree that Ortiz is a big puncher with a 85% finish-rate across his wins.

it’s a terrible match-up for Ruiz stylistically and it’ll be a short-nights work for Wilder if the match is made.

squinn2912

Ortiz just had Wilder in trouble Fury was the first to score a KD on him.

i don’t think Wilder will ko Ruiz early I reckon it goes to at least round 4

selectamatic

The bell saved wilder from a knock down in the first Ortiz fight.

He has commendable heart.

A pretty poor chin though and very poor balance after he takes a big shot.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119768874#Comment_119768874

Not sure how anyone thinks he has a poor chin,

46 fights & only Fury (who's a giant ) has dropped him & even then he kept getting back up ,

Lets not forget this is heavy weight boxing

Butson

Fury v Chisora confirmed for December 3rd

Dubois on the undercard

Don't mind it as long as we get Fury v Usyk in March / April

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119769433#Comment_119769433

Fury is not a puncher, and any time he landed, Wilder was on real wobbly legs. His chin is average at best.

You keep saying he got up. That doesn't mean he has a good chin. Plenty weak chinned fighters get up. A solid chin is when a fighter absorbs well and takes a good clean shot with very little actual effect. This is NOT Wilder.

Wilder's chin is not glass, but it is not solid either. Had Fury been a puncher, Wilder is out there very early.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770655#Comment_119770655

Fury WAS not a puncher, but that seems to have turned back it not one ,

He's 6ft 9 and nearly 270lbs & got back to going for the kill

Is there a man in the divison you'd back to go 12 rounds with Fury ?

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770701#Comment_119770701

Had Fury more power, as well as cleaner/more accurate follow ups, Wilder was gone in 4-5 rs tops....it's that simple.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770720#Comment_119770720

fury has power but not usually one punch KO power (although he did against Whyte).

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770720#Comment_119770720

Why didn't you answer my question ?

What about one Is Ortiz a heavy puncher ?

Butson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119770720#Comment_119770720

True, but I can imagine its pretty training mentally and physically making sure you are not on the end of a Wilder bomb. Also don't forget that Fury was knocked down a number of times by Wilder across the trilogy, so that's going to take away the energy and power reserves.

OmegaGene

trying to avoid wilder and punch heavy is not going to be easy, fury was being light on his feet and moving loads while landing fairly decent shots but planting feet is dangerous against wilder

fury v chisora press conference was on earlier, nothing eventful happened and chisora didn't look interested at all