Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

MayoAreMagic

blanch152 wrote: »

Every referee in the country, every pundit in the country and every poster on boards is wrong in their interpretation, but you are correct. I will read every single of your posts in that light.

No a good ref, like gough, would agree with the interpretation i gave, mainly because it is the right one.

homewardbound11

Better team won . More direct in front play. For once I was impressed with Damien comors after match speech . A good reflection on Galway at the moment .
Galway were no way as cynical as Kerry last week . The game went into a farce because it was allowed to .
The only good points from mayo were OSHEA . Boyle . Durcan .
Look we’ve 6 of the starting team to come in but as far as strength and depth - no chance .

Cillian needs time out . He’s no addition in his current form . A break is what he needs for his own good .

seligehgit

yop wrote: »

5 pages most of it the same Sh88te. It was a black or wasn't a black, big deal. Go to PM lads, its beyond boring.

The game itself, we were out fought and out classed. COC deservered his red, its been coming. He needs to sit out for a while, get this head and boots back. DOC was a yellow and deserved them both.
Galway were as equal on the cynical side, but were better at doing it out of sight, part of the game, if Mayo did I more I wouldn't complain, so not going to start now.

AOS had a good game, fought well, took a lot of abuse, how he doesn't explode is admirable. Durkan ran a lot but was up against blanket defense so didn't make much headway.
We had plan A and that was about it, ran into a wall and couldn't handle it and thats a pattern for a number of years now.
Good to see new lads blooded, has to be done.
Caff is end of days now, can't see what he brings to the team, though it says a lot for what is in the squad also.

Better team won, won it at all costs, thats what you have to do.

Maybe will need to get a result in Kildare and win in Tyrone. Donegal win away isn't going to be happening I expect. Dublin will canter against us unless we have a big transplant.
The "loss" of COC will be interesting, I expect us to possible play better and not funnel it all through him now, could be wrong.

Great post Yop.

Yeah not too much can be said,twas a terrible day at the office.

Most of us on here are like a broken record re our issues at full back.Ger Cafferkey simply is'nt the solution,unfortunately Jason Gibbons has gone back significantly in terms of a possible live consideration for a starting spot.His foot passing is very inconsistent and I am at a loss as to why he consistently contests kickouts with one hand.

Our build up play was so laboured with an inordinate amount of lateral passing probing for openings oftentimes resulting in lost possession.But our oft used off the shoulder strategy was very static.Conor Loftus toiled tirelessly inside making runs which were often spoiled by poor footpassing,unspotted or spilled with resultant turnovers.Our inability to retain possession inside is stark.We struggle greatly to break down teams that bring a lot of men back.Galway will have a similar setup come May.It has been very fruitful in the past two years.In contrast as always Galway have forwards of great quality who can take their man on,the polar opposite to our oftentimes static off the shoulder strategy...Shane Walsh,Eamon Brannigan and Damian Comer.Peter Cooke impressed in the middle of park today.An area in which we are struggling greatly.

The latter part of the second half has no place in our game and both sides contributed greatly to same.Very disappointed in the two O Connors,such foul play has no place in the game.Take your beating graciously.Cillian in particular really has to take time to reflect on this rather nasty side to his game.Agree with the sentiments re the lack of protection Aidan O Shea gets.

I dread the thought of Dublin coming to Castlebar.

The reality is we will continue to rely on the same core players who have served us so well.Hoping like in past years this is all alarmist early season jitters with the lads only shortly back in collective training and a focus solely on the championship.

Kudos to all for the impeccably observed minutes silence.

Carney97

Being a young Mayo fan I can tell I will have a love hate relationship with this forum lol

Poor_old_gill

blanch152 wrote: »

I don't know about that, but Diarmuid was very lucky not to get a straight red for it.

When people talk about previous incidents like the Battle of Omagh, this match must rank up there with the worst for unacceptable incidents.

It’s the other players face and/or other body part bring cynical- come on you know the script

TCDStudent1

blanch152 wrote: »

I don't know about that, but Diarmuid was very lucky not to get a straight red for it.

When people talk about previous incidents like the Battle of Omagh, this match must rank up there with the worst for unacceptable incidents.

I thought neither were particularly dirty or deliberate, more reckless and mistimed.

TommyDe

MayoAreMagic wrote:

Sorry, there is no mention of pulling of the jersey not being a black card, and there is no mention of both players having to end up on the ground for it to be a black card. That is what you suggested so you need to provide exactly that.

keegan get a black card for it 2016 final.
Though the reaction of connolly was that of a typical sneaky weasel.
Maybe Mcloughlin should have reacted like connolly instead...

STB.

There wasnt a ball within 40 feet of Cillian today when he lashed out with an elbow strike on Kerin.

He'll be out for a few games and rightly so.

You could easily break someones jaw doing that.

Bonniedog

Whatever about hitting someone a belt when the match is in the balance trying to deliberately injure an opponent - who has wiped the floor with you - when the game is gone is pretty low.

Audioslaven

STB. wrote: »

There wasnt a ball within 40 feet of Cillian today when he lashed out with an elbow strike on Kerin.

He'll be out for a few games and rightly so.

You could easily break someones jaw doing that.

What he did was not good but it was pure frustration from the lack of ball going in and galway defenders all over them once they got the ball.
DOCs was mis-timed and the defender is small so it looked worse than it was imo
I was frustrated watching this lateral playing of the ball and slow build up. We really played into Galways hands today with our slow build up. I think we need Barrett back in CB asap and king keegan back. Caff is on the way out unless he picks up.

It's only February and they looked well off the pace but Galway looked very fit today with the running off the ball and the counter attacking

TommyDe

STB. wrote:

There wasnt a ball within 40 feet of Cillian today when he lashed out with an elbow strike on Kerin.

Disgraceful red card. He needs to put the aggression on to the ball and not the opponents. Don't know what to make of him the last 2 years.
Hate that off the ball cheap shot ****.

We still struggle against the blanket. Galway targeted caff.
We need forwards who can forget about their ego and play the game as it is.
Economy of scoring is way off. Galway scored with ease at times.
Sometimes it's a simple game - ball over bar but we still dwell too much and a static inside forward line makes things worse. Too many players have too many tasks. Let the 2 inside forwards be forwards.
Noone seems willing to take long range shots.
Still though we'll improve when more of the lads get back. Midfield will be much better and Higgins is an important player against a stacked defense.

AOS just gets fouled all the time now. How he doesn't react I'll never know.

TommyDe

Bonniedog wrote:

Whatever about hitting someone a belt when the match is in the balance trying to deliberately injure an opponent - who has wiped the floor with you - when the game is gone is pretty low.

Yeah it's bad all right. But I know of one case where it was appealed and the offender got off after a lengthy legal argument and multiple appeals.

naughto

Look it’s only February we played sh1te I think Galway have showen there Hand in how they are going to be set up for the championship.
We have 6 1st team players I think it is to come back it will totally change the team, we are so off the pace it’s frightening but may we will be a different team.

Koc has to have the capacity taking off him not just for the sh1te he was at today but it’s effecting his game his free taking is gone to the dogs his,it’s like he’s thinking to much and trying to play in every position but the one he’s sapose to be in.

windy shepard henderson

naughto wrote: »

Look it’s only February we played sh1te I think Galway have showen there Hand in how they are going to be set up for the championship.
We have 6 1st team players I think it is to come back it will totally change the team, we are so off the pace it’s frightening but may we will be a different team.

Koc has to have the capacity taking off him not just for the sh1te he was at today but it’s effecting his game his free taking is gone to the dogs his,it’s like he’s thinking to much and trying to play in every position but the one he’s sapose to be in.

agree with this take the pressure off the inside forward line with the frees , ye are stacked in the half back line great performance by colm boyle today , full back line looked poor

but at least rochford is trying out new players ( something mayo dont do enough of in the league) , it will stand to the squad later in the year , but yeah free taking still remains a huge obstacle

seligehgit

I can't fathom out why Cillian continues to retain the captaincy.I believe the burden isn't helping his game.

Aidan O Shea is worthy of consideration for the role come championship.

The reality is the status quo will continue.

TCDStudent1

seligehgit wrote: »

I can't fathom out why Cillian continues to retain the captaincy.I believe the burden isn't helping his game.

Aidan O Shea is worthy of consideration for the role come championship.

The reality is the status quo will continue.

Has he ever been captain? Who was captain before O'Connor and how long ago was that?

windy shepard henderson

seligehgit wrote: »

I can't fathom out why Cillian continues to retain the captaincy.I believe the burden isn't helping his game.

Aidan O Shea is worthy of consideration for the role come championship.

The reality is the status quo will continue.

i dont know if you can put it down to the captaincy , mayo for all the players they tried so far have no inside forward line worth talking about , cillian and moran are still the top dogs , o'shea is wasted at 14 he is a top top class midfielder , ye are stacked in the middle 3rd even better then dublin in that department but rochford has not adapted his tactics to suite

the performance of boyle and durcan at times today for febuary was excellent , with keegan to comeback and mcloughan to revert back to the middle 3rd thing will fall back into place but ye need to find a full forward thats more suited to that position

Blackjack

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Has he ever been captain? Who was captain before O'Connor and how long ago was that?

Think he started as Captain against Monaghan in the league this year, he may have had a stint under James Horan, but not certain of that.
Keith Higgins was Captain before Cillian.

seligehgit

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i dont know if you can put it down to the captaincy , mayo for all the players they tried so far have no inside forward line worth talking about , cillian and moran are still the top dogs , o'shea is wasted at 14 he is a top top class midfielder , ye are stacked in the middle 3rd even better then dublin in that department but rochford has not adapted his tactics to suite

the performance of boyle and durcan at times today for febuary was excellent , with keegan to comeback and mcloughan to revert back to the middle 3rd thing will fall back into place but ye need to find a full forward thats more suited to that position

Ah I'm not for moment suggesting it's solely down to the captaincy.He just seems to be having a long term dip in form.

He's too good a player not to turn it around.

He became captain in 2016 and took over from Keith Higgins.

seligehgit

Blackjack wrote: »

Think he started as Captain against Monaghan in the league this year, he may have had a stint under James Horan, but not certain of that.
Keith Higgins was Captain before Cillian.

This is his first time as captain.Andy Moran was the captain under James Horan's stewardship.

Audioslaven

seligehgit wrote: »

Ah I'm not for moment suggesting it's solely down to the captaincy.He just seems to be having a long term dip in form.

He's too good a player not to turn it around.

He became captain in 2016 and took over from Keith Higgins.

In fairness they should mix it up now as it gives someone else a chance in the role. AOS or Keegan would be good candidates.

TCDStudent1

Audioslaven wrote: »

In fairness they should mix it up now as it gives someone else a chance in the role. AOS or Keegan would be good candidates.

I would think 2 years is long enough for anybody in the role. Mayo have lots of suitable candidates in their team too. Players with a lot of experience and captain material.

RockyRory

As a Meath man watching it on tg4 I thought mayo were a disgrace. Theyre like the greyhound that’s turned its head. Too much baggage too much mileage. Galway have now got a huge psychological hold over mayo. Mayo have no forwards and no new players coming through. The end is nigh for this mayo squad. Galway aren’t world beaters but will be a tough team for anybody to face in the championship bar the dubs. 3 top class forwards in comer , Brannigan and Walsh.

TCDStudent1

RockyRory wrote: »

As a Meath man watching it on tg4 I thought mayo were a disgrace. Theyre like the greyhound that’s turned its head. Too much baggage too much mileage. Galway have now got a huge psychological hold over mayo. Mayo have no forwards and no new players coming through. The end is nigh for this mayo squad. Galway aren’t world beaters but will be a tough team for anybody to face in the championship bar the dubs. 3 top class forwards in comer , Brannigan and Walsh.

But the thing is - the team that Galway started today is far far closer to the 15 that will take to the field in May than Mayo. Mayo were missing Harrison, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, Vaughan, Seamie O'Shea, Tom Parsons, Andy Moran. All of them could start v Galway in May.

On the other hand, Galway were missing the Corofin lads & Michael Daly. Maybe 3 starters in May. From today, probably 5 out of Galways 6 backs will start & 4 out of their 6 forwards.

jr86

yop wrote: »

Yup, read what she has posted in the Meath forum, anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that Meath are not up there with Dublin or Kerry.
We are used to it on here anyway, just wanted to welcome the latest one

Fair enough, did't know their posting history

While the post is indeed very over dramatic I still think it was a very concerning performance

That said it'll all be completely forgotten if we win a Connacht title, such is sport

yop

jr86 wrote: »

Fair enough, did't know their posting history

While the post is indeed very over dramatic I still think it was a very concerning performance

That said it'll all be completely forgotten if we win a Connacht title, such is sport

Its a concerning as out league performances have been for the last 4 yrs. Its as concerning as our performances against Galway for 2 championship years in a row. As concerning as our qualifiers have been for 2 years.
Yet for some reason we still keep coming back.
Still no Sam, which is the concerning issue, but these lads keep coming back when wrote off.

km79

Hopefully David Gough refs the championship match. Mayo can station AOS at FF then and win the game with all the 14 yard frees he will get . Seems to be the only ref in the country who can see more than 5 yards ahead . Conroy and Bradshaw can then have the compliments they were handing out towards the end yday returned . Don't know if any early May championship win will warrant a pitch invasion but sure we may as well

Green Peter

TCDStudent1 wrote:

On the other hand, Galway were missing the Corofin lads & Michael Daly. Maybe 3 starters in May. From today, probably 5 out of Galways 6 backs will start & 4 out of their 6 forwards.

yop wrote:

Its a concerning as out league performances have been for the last 4 yrs. Its as concerning as our performances against Galway for 2 championship years in a row. As concerning as our qualifiers have been for 2 years. Yet for some reason we still keep coming back. Still no Sam, which is the concerning issue, but these lads keep coming back when wrote off.

Still no Sam. The fear in Mayo is that Galway will do what they did in 1998 and win an all Ireland after Mayo dominating for so long without winning Sam.

ArielAtom

yop wrote: »

Its a concerning as out league performances have been for the last 4 yrs. Its as concerning as our performances against Galway for 2 championship years in a row. As concerning as our qualifiers have been for 2 years.
Yet for some reason we still keep coming back.
Still no Sam, which is the concerning issue, but these lads keep coming back when wrote off.

Last year was near perfection in terms of peaking. I am convinced that is the plan. In real terms Mayo are only a kick of a ball from an AI. Hopefully another good run, but there are serious miles in those legs. You can’t but admire how they pick themselves up each year an go again. Morans season last year will be hard to repeat. AA

jr86

ArielAtom wrote: »

Last year was near perfection in terms of peaking. I am convinced that is the plan. In real terms Mayo are only a kick of a ball from an AI. Hopefully another good run, but there are serious miles in those legs. You can’t but admire how they pick themselves up each year an go again. Morans season last year will be hard to repeat. AA

In fairness Mayo probably should (or at the very least very much could) have lost in the back door.

It'd be complete daft to not go gung-ho from connacht this year given the new format