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Next Gen Freesat?

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    #122
    The Cush
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    Pricing for the new boxes

    • Freesat 4K TV Box £124.99
    • Freesat Recordable 4K TV Box 500GB, £199.99
    • Freesat Recordable 4K TV Box 1TB, £229.99
    • Freesat Recordable 4K TV Box 2TB, £269.99
    The new Freesat 4K TV Box and the Freesat Recordable 4K TV Boxes will be available at Amazon and Currys PC World from the end of February.

    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1245916/Sky-TV-Virgin-Media-rival-4K-freesat-new-box


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    #123
    The Cush
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    Digi Repairs in Enniskillen has the non-PVR box on it's site for £160

    https://www.digirepairs.co.uk/product/buy-new-freesat-4k-tv-box-model-freesat-uhd-xby-arris/


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    #124
    Harry Palmr
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    Christ, freesat less free than it used to be.


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    #125
    Tigerandahalf
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    Looking at the pics on Amazon the user interface looks poorer compared to the humax. No contrast between the greyness on the user guide between the channel number and the programme info.

    I asked on Amazon if Now tv and Prime were coming. No confirmation but said they were in discussions and exciting news was to come.
    If they couldn't have it in place for launch I wouldn't hold my breath.

    For this 4k box to work it really needs to have all the streaming options on it.

    I think I would prefer to see an android type box launched that would allow you to sign up to whatever streaming apps you want or that might come to the market down the road.


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    #126
    Harry Palmr
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    Are Arris the only game in town now for freesat recordable boxes?


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    #127
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Unboxing of the 4K TV box, surprising nobody has done a review of it yet...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57gvtLnSiGg


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    #128
    micks_address
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    Is there any box yet that gives freesat epg and saorview epg with recording? One that doesnt require pc configuration with channel lists etc?


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    #129
    Gerry Wicklow
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    micks_address wrote: »
    Is there any box yet that gives freesat epg and saorview epg with recording? One that doesnt require pc configuration with channel lists etc?
    Very unlikely as there no market. FreeSat software is only licensed for UK. RTE couldn't / wouldn't get it for their mess


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    #130
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Christ, freesat less free than it used to be.
    Completely different topic but the current UK government have removed a lot of BBC funding and are making noises about removing more.

    As long as overspill is cheaper there shouldn't be a return to Free To View cards.


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    #131
    The Cush
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    The manual for the new recordable boxes has been posted over on AVforums - https://www.avforums.com/threads/new-generation-freesat-stb-arris.2256339/page-10#post-27802871

    According to the forum the new 500Gb and 1Tb boxes go on sale on Amazon Mar 7th. At Currys a week or do later


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    #132
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Am I right in thinking the twin inputs will be used to support 2 connections from standard non Sky Q dish to allow multiple channel viewing and recording at the same time?


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    #133
    The Cush
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking the twin inputs will be used to support 2 connections from standard non Sky Q dish to allow multiple channel viewing and recording at the same time?

    2 standard tuners when used with a legacy LNB, same as previous Freesat PVRs.

    4 tuners with wideband or hybrid LNB and also in SCR (MDU) mode I believe.


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    #134
    Johnboy1951
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    I wonder what connection/s will be needed when using a Unicable LNB ...... one or two ..... to get the full range of tuners?


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    #135
    The Cush
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    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I wonder what connection/s will be needed when using a Unicable LNB ...... one or two ..... to get the full range of tuners?

    I assume 1, as most apartments have only a single feed. SkyQ uses one connection to feed 12 tuners.

    In the LNB setup there is MDU and MDU2, possibly to reflect which input the SCR feed is connected to.


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    #136
    ka2
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    I'm waiting impatiently for the recording box to come out. My HDR-1000S died about a month ago; it wouldn't output any video on HDMI or SCART even though the channel name appeared on the front display. So I'm using a basic FTA box to get me by for now. I think I'll go up to Newry to get one when it's released.


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    #137
    NewClareman
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    micks_address wrote: »
    Is there any box yet that gives freesat epg and saorview epg with recording? One that doesnt require pc configuration with channel lists etc?

    What I have is very close to that, see this thread. You update the firmware, input a few parameters, and you’re good to go. Channels, and channel lists update automatically and Irish and UK channels are in an integrated EPG.

    The only problem is that the Tiviar box is becoming scarce. However, automating the channel lists is very easy and a number of replacement boxes are available, with the hard drive fitted, for around €200. If anyone wants to go down that road I can posts the files I use. With those, it’s a breeze.


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    #138
    Johnboy1951
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    micks_address wrote: »
    Is there any box yet that gives freesat epg and saorview epg with recording? One that doesnt require pc configuration with channel lists etc?

    Freesat is a proprietary system for which they charge handsomely.

    It is also somewhat limited, as there are some desirable channels which do not pay to be on that system, yet are available Free to Air.

    A fully equipped FTA box is a much better option in my opinion - such as that mentioned in the previous post.
    There are some others available also that have similar functionality, but would probably require some work on the user's part to get full functionality.
    NewClareman has generously shared his work on the Tiviar which makes things very simple.


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    #139
    FRIENDO
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    ka2 wrote: »
    I'm waiting impatiently for the recording box to come out. My HDR-1000S died about a month ago; it wouldn't output any video on HDMI or SCART even though the channel name appeared on the front display. So I'm using a basic FTA box to get me by for now. I think I'll go up to Newry to get one when it's released.

    Have been lucky with Humax, still using the Foxsat hdr since 2009, not a day goes by it's not recording, a great box


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    #140
    lukeeman
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭lukeeman


    looking for some help, i got the new freesat record boxs and the remote is clashing with my saorview boxs remote
    does anybody know how to seperate the frequency on either remote.


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    #141
    Atlantic Dawn
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    lukeeman wrote: »
    looking for some help, i got the new freesat record boxs and the remote is clashing with my saorview boxs remote
    does anybody know how to seperate the frequency on either remote.


    It's not even released yet, how did you get it?


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    #142
    lukeeman
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    Amazon had them on there site on Tuesday I think it was a mistake, I bought the 500gb one got it thru parcel motel today. Seems good only prob so far is the remote.


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    #143
    Atlantic Dawn
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    lukeeman wrote: »
    Amazon had them on there site on Tuesday I think it was a mistake, I bought the 500gb one got it thru parcel motel today. Seems good only prob so far is the remote.


    Sweet, looking to get one myself.


    Is your Saorview box the latest model?


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    #144
    lukeeman
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Sweet, looking to get one myself.


    Is your Saorview box the latest model?

    im using the saorview power point box, cant find anything on either boxs to change the frequency.


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    #145
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Look at the manual. It will show you how to change the frequency. Otherwise the Connect manual should have it.


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    #146
    lukeeman
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    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Look at the manual. It will show you how to change the frequency. Otherwise the Connect manual should have it.

    No luck so far tried the instructions they had up, will try or ring them in morning.
    Thanks for the replys


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    #147
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Going by the questions on Amazon it seems this box won't allow multi-room viewing from the main box. You will still need a satellite cable in each room.

    There is very little 4k content out there either.

    The box doesn't have any huge selling point.


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    #148
    The Cush
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    lukeeman wrote: »
    looking for some help, i got the new freesat record boxs and the remote is clashing with my saorview boxs remote
    does anybody know how to seperate the frequency on either remote.
    Unfortunately both remote controls have the same Freesat origin. Humax had the same issue between Freesat and Freeview boxes and there was a workaround for them when used together, they were for the same market. I wonder if they have a fix for the Arris and Saorview issue?
    lukeeman wrote: »
    No luck so far tried the instructions they had up, will try or ring them in morning.
    This is what the manual says
    If you have any problems that are not covered in the manual, or you have attempted the suggested troubleshooting fixes and this has not helped then please call our call centre on 0345 313 0051 or email customerteam@freesat.co.uk


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    #149
    The Cush
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    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Going by the questions on Amazon it seems this box won't allow multi-room viewing from the main box. You will still need a satellite cable in each room.

    Looks like multscreen didn't make it past its initial request for proposals back in 2017 - https://advanced-television.com/2017/09/01/freesat-seeks-next-gen-product-proposals/


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    #150
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    You would wonder why?
    I wonder will it be able to do anything on remote devices like tablets and phones?


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    #151
    Harry Palmr
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    The Cush wrote: »
    Unfortunately both remote controls have the same Freesat origin. Humax had the same issue between Freesat and Freeview boxes and there was a workaround for them when used together, they were for the same market. I wonder if they have a fix for the Arris and Saorview issue?


    This is what the manual says

    As ROI is not an official market for freesat I doubt they'll be spending any time trying to integrate saorview.


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