'Multiple shooting' at congressional baseball game practice field

ohnonotgmail

Really Interested wrote: »

Exactly and the SC has decided to say it is an individual right not a community right.

tradtionally the militia provided their own arms. If you deny the people the right to arms then a militia is not possible. well that is the logic anyway.

c_man

The "punch a Nazi" crowd must be loving this.

jobbridge4life

c_man wrote: »

The "punch a Nazi" crowd must be loving this.

Because there is no distinction between punching a man who advocates racial cleansing and attempting to murder elected representatives.

c_man

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Because there is no distinction between punching a man who advocates racial cleansing and attempting to murder elected representatives.

They're advocating violence against those they describe as nazis. The description of such rests entirely with the aggressor.

Plenty of the videos I've seen on the topic, the victims are just Trump supporters/republicans. And of course we could spend the day linking stories off one punch kills. So yeah, I imagine there's a lot of satisfied "resisters" out there, and judging from other online sources the only regret seems to be that yer man was a pi$$ poor shot.

silverharp

here is a Huff Post writer's view, he seems all cut up :rolleyes:

Overheal

RandomName2 wrote: »

Just going to say that 53 deaths in a 16 year period is an irrelevant number. Sure 13 people were killed in the fort hood shooting in 2009 alone.

Though your other points, I must admit, make sense.

Well, there was the Oklahoma City Bombing which killed 169, in '95.

I don't have the numbers for 'liberal' mass shootings/terrorist events but I imagine the numbers aren't much different from the trend.

RobertKK wrote: »

The fact is his hate of Trump and the Republicans is what led to this attack. He is a supporter of the Democrats who became radicalised by his irrational hate.
All these people who do these things are radicalised by some form of hate that makes them do these crazy attacks.
It is the same for the person who shot the Democrat congresswoman Giffords.
It is a radical action to go and shoot people whoever they are.
I simply pointed out the background to this particular attacker. He was radicalised by an irrational hatred towards the Republicans.

People are radicalized all the time, from all walks of life. Progressives, conservatives, christians, muslims, you name it there's a psycho and a case file to review.

silverharp wrote: »

here is a Huff Post writer's view, he seems all cut up

But he is not wrong, and from the context evidently is engaged in the discussion on how this event relates back to the purpose of the 2nd Amendment, something an old tweet from Rand Paul took center stage of:

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/746022114042478592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fonline%2Fa-year-ago-rand-paul-tweeted-that-2nd-amendment-exists-to-shoot-at-the-government%2F

According to Paul's spin doctors/team this wasn't a direct quote, but a 'livetweet' of a speech, but all the same the comment got national attention.

silverharp

Overheal wrote: »

But he is not wrong, and from the context evidently is engaged in the discussion on how this event relates back to the purpose of the 2nd Amendment, something an old tweet from Rand Paul took center stage of:

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/746022114042478592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fonline%2Fa-year-ago-rand-paul-tweeted-that-2nd-amendment-exists-to-shoot-at-the-government%2F

According to Paul's spin doctors/team this wasn't a direct quote, but a 'livetweet' of a speech, but all the same the comment got national attention.

I know "tyrannical" is subjective but unless you just want permission to be a terrorist we are talking something big like getting rid of elections, no freedom to travel something fundamental that a Republic would not contemplate.

Overheal

silverharp wrote: »

I know "tyrannical" is subjective but unless you just want permission to be a terrorist we are talking something big like getting rid of elections, no freedom to travel something fundamental that a Republic would not contemplate.

Well, in my humble perspective, the guy was set off by the AHCA, which is just, truly, an awful piece of legislation, with an equally awful political background. I don't know if people actually want to get into it all but the short version is that it repeals most of the ACA, restores the ability of insurance companies to drop you for pre-existing conditions and such - the CBO projections about the bill in its current state were pretty damning, and Scalise triumphed it's passing. And certainly through that lens, killing off Americans to save a few billion dollars, would be tantamount to tyranny.

InTheTrees

Overheal wrote: »

Well, in my humble perspective, the guy was set off by the AHCA, which is just, truly, an awful piece of legislation, with an equally awful political background. I don't know if people actually want to get into it all but the short version is that it repeals most of the ACA, restores the ability of insurance companies to drop you for pre-existing conditions and such - the CBO projections about the bill in its current state were pretty damning, and Scalise triumphed it's passing. And certainly through that lens, killing off Americans to save a few billion dollars, would be tantamount to tyranny.

Agreed. Before ObamaCare they say 35,000 people were dying every year because of no healthcare.

Trump and the republicans want to return to that.

Hande hoche!

Seems like the shooter in question had a history of domestic violence and a list with other Republicans on it.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/baseball-shooting-victims-list-james-hodgkinson-steve-scalise-2017-6

Hande hoche!

On the plus side, the Democrats won and gave the trophy to the Republicans to hand on to Scalise. Nice display.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-congressional-baseball-game-20170615-story.html