'Multiple shooting' at congressional baseball game practice field

Celticfire

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/337717-report-shooting-near-congressional-baseball-game-practice-field

Gunman just opened fire on Congressional members playing baseball this morning in Del Ray

Supposedly up to 50 shots fired. Suspect in custody.

Glenster

Mass shooting in USA?

It must be Wednesday

Persephone kindness

At least 5 shot. Awful

biko

Someone really doesn't like baseball...

super_furry

Giving everyone a gun really is a wonderful terrible idea.

Persephone kindness

White male is all they know.

Persephone kindness

super_furry wrote: »

Giving everyone a gun really is a wonderful terrible idea.

Imagine if no weapon had ever been invented.

gandalf

Terrorism.......oh wait it's a white male, errr mental health so........

Persephone kindness

The guy who founded the Nobel price invented dynamite because he worried that would be all he would be remembered for. He made a lot of money from Dynamite....he was worried about what people would think of him...that was why he founded his prizes 'pr' reasons

Criticism of Nobel focuses on his leading role in weapons manufacturing and sales, and some question his motives in creating his prizes, suggesting they were intended to improve his reputation

He became rich off weapons.

Persephone kindness

Persephone kindness wrote: »

The guy who founded the Nobel price invented dynamite because he worried that would be all he would be remembered for. He made a lot of money from Dynamite....he was worried about what people would think of him...that was why he founded his prizes pr



He became rich off weapons.

Maybe this is terrorism...on the human race...

Persephone kindness

gandalf wrote: »

Terrorism.......oh wait it's a white male, errr mental health so........

True.

c_man

gandalf wrote: »

Terrorism.......oh wait it's a white male, errr mental health so........

Yeah, no-one called Timothy McVeigh a terrorist... And Christopher Dorner was instantly called one... Oh wait, no that's complete bolloX.

Actually reading that there was a good few Republicans hit, so maybe the shooter does have a commonality with the views expressed by Dorner.

elefant

Persephone kindness wrote: »

The guy who founded the Nobel price invented dynamite because he worried that would be all he would be remembered for.

Maybe you've just worded this completely arse-ways, but it was obviously the other way around :pac:

Pinch Flat

Just another day in 'Murica. When guns are easy to get as a toaster, and large amounts of lunatics carry them, this will be an almost daily occurrence.

beans

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Just another day in 'Murica. When guns are easy to get as a toaster, this will be an almost daily occurrence.

Just like in Switzerland... oh wait.

Irish Praetorian

In before: "A good senator with a gun could have stopped this."

Pinch Flat

beans wrote: »

Just like in Switzerland... oh wait.

Edited

ThisRegard

Just wait for Trump's rants about the democrats now.

wonderfullife

gandalf wrote: »

Terrorism.......oh wait it's a white male, errr mental health so........

actually they're already blaming "duh librul fascist lefties"

wonderfullife

beans wrote: »

Just like in Switzerland... oh wait.

Yeah good try but no.

In a society attuned to violence over hundreds of years, giving them all guns is not a good idea no matter how many false equivalencies you come up with.

c_man

wonderfullife wrote: »

actually they're already blaming "duh librul fascist lefties"

Who is? Is that directed at me?

wonderfullife

c_man wrote: »

Who is? Is that directed at me?

people on twitter

greencap

gandalf wrote: »

Terrorism.......oh wait it's a white male, errr mental health so........

MOD: Banned.



oh no wait, white male.


carry on.

Hank Scorpio

Gunman asked if they were Republicans or Democrats before opening fire Fox reporting.

All the stories about people trying to normalize Trumps assassination won't go down well.

Water John

Any attack on any elected representatives, police or judges, is an attack on democracy. The fact that the GOP are presently not very respectful of their own institutions, is irrevelent.

Water John

Gabrielle Giffords ✔ @GabbyGiffords
My heart is with my former colleagues, their families & staff, and the US Capitol Police- public servants and heroes today and every day.

Tweeted

silverharp

Probably a registered democrat , 50 shots fired and no one killed, cant have had much in the way of weapons training.

Manic Moran

Water John wrote: »

Gabrielle Giffords ✔ @GabbyGiffords
My heart is with my former colleagues, their families & staff, and the US Capitol Police- public servants and heroes today and every day.

Tweeted

Interestingly, the US Navy launched the ship named after her yesterday, which may or may not be a coincidence.
Wonder if Scalise will get one now?

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

In before: "A good senator with a gun could have stopped this."

No need. Plenty of other folks with guns were present at the time to stop it. Looks like they did well enough to keep the shooter suppressed so that there were no fatalities (so far) other than the shooter.

jobbridge4life

Manic Moran wrote: »

No need. Plenty of other folks with guns were present at the time to stop it. Looks like they did well enough to keep the shooter suppressed so that there were no fatalities (so far) other than the shooter.

Is the shooter not in custody?

Water John

Shooter in custody, yes. No fatality TG.

leakyboots

The eyewitness account is pretty frightening:

Congressman Mo Brooks’s full recollection of the incident on CNN:

I was on deck about to hit batting practice on the third base side of home plate and I heard a loud ‘bam’ and I look around and behind third base and the third base dugout which is cinderblock, I see a rifle. And I see a little bit of a body and I then hear another ‘blam’ and I realize that there’s an active shooter.

At the same time I heard Steve Scalise over near second base scream, he was shot, he’s our majority whip. The gun was a semi-automatic. It continues to fire at different people. You can imagine all the people on the field scatter. I run around to the first base side of home plate. We have a batting cage that’s got plastic wrapped around it to stop foul balls, and hide behind the plastic. You know the plastic’s not real good. And I was lying on the ground with two or three others as gunfire continues.

I heard a break in the gunfire and decided to take a chance, ran from home plate to the first base dugout, which is also cinderblock and down about two or three feet so you can have better cover. There were a number of congressman and congressional staffers who help us lying on the ground. One of them was wounded in the leg. I took off my belt and myself and another congressman I don’t remember who applied a tourniquet to try to slow down the bleeding.

In the meantime, I’m towards the right field side of the dugout and there’s gunfire within about five six seven feel of my head and I look up and there’s a guy with a gun blasting away. Fortunately, it was one of the good guys. One of our security detail who was shooting back. Of course it was pistol versus rifle, our pistols versus the shooter’s rifle on the third base line just outside the chain link fence and he was warning us to stay down. Another security detail person was closer to home plate, probably, I couldn’t see him but probably on the home plate side of the dugout, outside the fence line using the dugout as cover as he’s firing back.

And there must have been 50 to 100 shots fired. Hard to uh, itemize ‘em. Eventually it seems that the shooter shot both of our security detail people. There were some congressman on phones screaming for reinforcements.

Seemed like a long time and we weren’t even hearing sirens from local police officers which tells me they probably did not yet know what was going on. Eventually the shooter starts circling around third base. This is my understanding. Of course I’m down on the ground helping a guy who’s got a bullet hole in his leg. And the shooter starts coming around home plate towards we are outside the fence line and my understanding is that’s where our security detail, maybe some of the ones who were wounded, still defending us, took him down.

At which point, once we got the all clear that the shooter was down, we ran out to second base for Steve Scalise. He had crawled into the outfield leaving a trail of blood. We started giving him some liquids. I put pressure on the wound in his hip. And Brad Wenstrup, congressman from Ohio, Cincinnati, fortunately is a physician, he started doing what you need to do to minimize the blood loss.

Shorty thereafter more the police showed up. Again, it seemed like forever but it was probably shorter that what it seemed. A helicopter landed in center field and took away whomever folks decided was the most wounded, most critical. I don’t know who that person was. At that time the police were causing all of us to gather outside the first base line and the chain link fence and cordoning off the area to help ensure if there was a second shooter we would be better protected.

Fathom

All the news Stateside.

wonderfullife

If the roles were reversed (Dem batting practice) you can absolutely guarantee Alex Jones and Cernovich would be claiming this is a False Flag attack.

60 rounds fired, no fatalities, immediate spin to pin this on the Dems, probably will be used as a pretext to float Draconian measures.

Flip and reverse it, the far-right would be all over this as a False Flag incident.

Hank Scorpio

wonderfullife wrote: »

If the roles were reversed (Dem batting practice) you can absolutely guarantee Alex Jones and Cernovich would be claiming this is a False Flag attack.

60 rounds fired, no fatalities, immediate spin to pin this on the Dems, probably will be used as a pretext to float Draconian measures.

Flip and reverse it, the far-right would be all over this as a False Flag incident.

Shut up.

wonderfullife

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Shut up.

Did I offend your far-right-wing sensibilities?

Surprised you haven't dropped usual pearl of wisdom about guns not being the problem.

Hank Scorpio

wonderfullife wrote: »

Did I offend your far-right-wing sensibilities?

Surprised you haven't dropped usual pearl of wisdom about guns not being the problem.

You have a terrible habit of trying to turn things around and blame other groups when there's a incident like today, it's pathetic. Most people with rational thinking would think to themselves this is some nut and spell out the facts as to what happened and why. I don't think it's representative of Democrats or people with left wing views at all, but I would place some blame on the toxic Political environment that's being created in the US. Instead you say "well if someone on the right did it, blah blah." You probably don't even notice yourself doing it.

wonderfullife

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Most people with rational thinking would think to themselves this is some nut and spell out the facts as to what happened and why. I don't think it's representative of Democrats or people with left wing views at all, but I would place some blame on the toxic Political environment that's being created in the US.

Toxic political environment created by Trump.

As for "people with rational thinking", Donald Trump Jr. is already blaming liberals for this on twitter. And it's rich coming from you, Mr Scorpio who blames the left for everything Islamists do.

silverharp

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

You have a terrible habit of trying to turn things around and blame other groups when there's a incident like today, it's pathetic. Most people with rational thinking would think to themselves this is some nut and spell out the facts as to what happened and why. I don't think it's representative of Democrats or people with left wing views at all, but I would place some blame on the toxic Political environment that's being created in the US. Instead you say "well if someone on the right did it, blah blah." You probably don't even notice yourself doing it.

the toxic media sums it up, they have basically set up that shooting Trump would be a heroic thing to do

Hank Scorpio

wonderfullife wrote: »

Toxic political environment created by Trump.

As for "people with rational thinking", Donald Trump Jr. is already blaming liberals for this on twitter.

Yeah it's solely Trumps fault. Not one Democrat Politician has called out those Antifa groups who are constantly engaged in violence. The Democrat establishment have ignored it and turned a blind eye. People like Loretta Lynch have released videos advocating for violence on the streets. It's not Republicans who are engaged in setting cars on fire and smashing up store fronts either. Right now there's a play in NYC emulating the assassination of Trump, it's gotten so bad people like Kathy Griffin felt like she could get away with what she did.

DEFTLEFTHAND

gandalf wrote: »

Terrorism.......oh wait it's a white male, errr mental health so........

Isn't that what we were told everytime there was a Islamic attack in Europe. For months and months it would either be gas explosion or the mentally ill.

Incredibly insulting to all those with mental illness.

wonderfullife

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Yeah it's solely Trumps fault. Not one Democrat Politician has called out those Antifa groups who are constantly engaged in violence. The Democrat establishment have ignored it and turned a blind eye. People like Loretta Lynch have released videos advocating for violence on the streets. It's not Republicans who are engaged in setting cars on fire and smashing up store fronts either. Right now there's a play in NYC emulating the assassination of Trump, it's gotten so bad people like Kathy Griffin felt like she could get away with what she did.

Kathy Griffin lol. She did nothing.

The same amount of nothing Trump did/said after Portland.

When you only condemn violence against Republicans and not violence committed by right-wing white supremacists it creates toxicity.

DEFTLEFTHAND

c_man wrote: »

Yeah, no-one called Timothy McVeigh a terrorist... And Christopher Dorner was instantly called one... Oh wait, no that's complete bolloX.

Actually reading that there was a good few Republicans hit, so maybe the shooter does have a commonality with the views expressed by Dorner.

What was McVeigh called at the time. Any material I've read on him refers to him as a domestic terrorist.

silverharp

wonderfullife wrote: »

Kathy Griffin lol. She did nothing.

The same amount of nothing Trump did/said after Portland.

When you only condemn violence against Republicans and not violence committed by right-wing white supremacists it creates toxicity.

whats Portland? (I know its a city and that it is in Oregon)

Hank Scorpio

wonderfullife wrote: »

Kathy Griffin lol. She did nothing.

Thanks for proving my point.

jobbridge4life

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Yeah it's solely Trumps fault. Not one Democrat Politician has called out those Antifa groups who are constantly engaged in violence. The Democrat establishment have ignored it and turned a blind eye. People like Loretta Lynch have released videos advocating for violence on the streets. It's not Republicans who are engaged in setting cars on fire and smashing up store fronts either. Right now there's a play in NYC emulating the assassination of Trump, it's gotten so bad people like Kathy Griffin felt like she could get away with what she did.

Democrats have repeatedly called out violence. Are calling out this attack.

There was a performance of Julius Caesar during Obama's presidency depicting him as Caesar.

Trump invited Ted Nugent to the White House.

Nugent’s 2012 comments about Obama — who he has called a “piece of ****” and a “subhuman mongrel” — are far from the only threat he’s made against prominent Democrats. As the Daily Beast chronicled, Nugent discussed shooting Harry Reid during the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in 2015. In January 2016, he called for both Obama and Clinton to “be tried for treason & hung.” Nugent once called Clinton a “worthless bitch” and called for her to “ride one of these [guns] into the sunset.” He told Obama to “suck on my machine gun.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-hosts-ted-nugent-white-house-c0da4b94c51

And I haven't even touched on the vileness that is Trump himself.

Spare me your ridiculous faux outrage.

Hank Scorpio

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Democrats have repeatedly called out violence. Are calling out this attack.

Link me to one Democrat Politician calling out the antifa.

DEFTLEFTHAND

beans wrote: »

Just like in Switzerland... oh wait.

Not the same tension in Switzerland. More homogeneous.

wonderfullife

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Link me to one Democrat Politician calling out the antifa.

who are your heroes? Cernovich? Gavin McInnes? Do you have a little Pepe the Frog avatar on your twitter?

Pretty pathetic.

Hank Scorpio

These are some of the people leading "The resistance" who have organised and spoke publicly at marches against Trump. If it wasn't for double standards the left would have no standards at all.

Donna Hylton

In 1985, Hylton and two accomplices drugged and kidnapped 62-year-old Long Island real-estate broker Thomas Vigliarolo, and held him prisoner for 15-20 days. While imprisoned, Vigliarolo was starved, burned, beaten, sexually assaulted, raped and tortured by three men and four women, including Hylton. It was Hylton who delivered a ransom note and tape to a friend of Vigliarolo, leading to her capture.

Linda Sarsour

https://twitter.com/lsarsour/status/116922589967949824?lang=en

biko

Shooter is James T. Hodgkinson

Charles Orear, 50, a restaurant manager from St. Louis, said in an interview Wednesday that he became friendly with James T. Hodgkinson, whom law enforcement officials identified as the shooter, during their work in Iowa on Sen. Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign. Orear said Hodgkinson was a passionate progressive and showed no signs of violence or malice toward others.

Lefty approved link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/live-updates/public-safety/updates-shooting-at-congressional-baseball-practice-in-virginia/acquaintance-describes-campaigning-for-sanders-with-hodgkinson/

Water John

Hank, you do dredge up some whacky stuff. WTF has it got to do with today's events.
Nobody should defend this guys actions. The same applies to McVeigh.