Would you stop a hijacker on board your flight?

jeanjolie

Given the recent attacks in London with all these suicide bombers being attacked by a Millwan while passengers on a recent Malaysian flight to Melbourne tackled a man attempting to hijack a flight, I'm imagining a scenario closer to home;

If you were on an early morning flight from Dublin to London, Amsterdam, New York etc.. and three guys got up and tried to hijack the aircraft, would you be the 'hero' and try to tackle/beat them to death? There was a case of passengers on a Chinese flight in 2012 who did just that.

I'm a bit skeptical cause we Irish are stereotype for having a very lax system and being friendly to everyone. Do you think this extends towards terrorists? A

There's a poll so it'd be interesting to see what gender and your response is.

tomwaterford

If your going to die anyways,why would you not?

corner of hells

Where's the poll , has it been hijacked?

Breaston Plants

What's a Millwan?

GritBiscuit

If the alternative is sitting there meekly while the plane is used as a missile for some busy city killing everyone on board anyway, what have you go to lose?

alchemist33

I'd use an airline bread roll to batter them to death.

Kolido

alchemist33 wrote: »

I'd use an airline bread roll to batter them to death.

At those prices.

Allinall

What's this "we Irish" you speak of?

mynamejeff

ya sure i ve seen enough chuck norris films to pull it off

pickarooney

Yeah, you weren't Irish yesterday, OP.

jeanjolie

Allinall wrote: »

What's this "we Irish" you speak of?

people who live in posh south Dublin. The hijackers have got nothing on those rough guys and gals from the country and the North of the city.

jeanjolie

pickarooney wrote: »

Yeah, you weren't Irish yesterday, OP.

Not fully Irish but as was discussed in another thread, I'm 'technically' Irish.

The_Valeyard

What if I was the hijaker?

snowflaker

I would hijack the drinks trolly!

jester77

Defo, I've seen enough Die Hard and Fr. Ted to know how to get downstairs in the plane and do some magic to stop them controlling the plane.

jeanjolie

The_Valeyard wrote: »

What if I was the hijaker?

snowflaker

jeanjolie wrote: »

Thats not a selfie!!! :mad::mad::mad:

pawdee

I'd walk up to the biggest guy and ask him if he's a terrorist. If he says yes then I'd kick him in the nuts. Obviously this would provoke a reaction so I'd lamp him into the side of the head knocking him out cold. With that his friends would set about me whereupon I'd dispatch the first one with a vicious headbutt before elbowing the third guy across the jaw. I'd then systematically kick all three of them to death before ordering a brandy, some beers, peanuts and a model of the plane from the inflight magazine.

snowflaker

How am I supposed to do a flying roundhouse kick on a plane?

The_Valeyard

jeanjolie wrote: »

You could at least make a funny face

snowflaker

The_Valeyard wrote: »

You could at least make a funny face

You try and make a smile saying "allahu akbar!"

sjb25

Would I stop them probably not alone anyway I'm to much of a weakling

But I'd certainly help in a team effort sure what have you to lose I'd at least throw stuff at them

Or maybe I'd go all chuck Norris on them

_Brian

Maybe show them the price of the crap in the inflight magazine - they should faint at that.

Pat Mustard

jeanjolie wrote: »

interesting to see what gender

I'm a sixteen year girl. Honest injuns.

Sure aren't we all

seamus

The world trade centre hijackings changed the game somewhat.

Up till then if someone was hijacking a plane, it was because they wanted to get somewhere, or they wanted some demands met, or perhaps they even wanted to steal a plane. Basically the hijacker wanted to live and didn't specifically want anyone on board to die.

So the prevailing wisdom was to stay calm, talk him down, land somewhere and see how it pans out. If you were a passenger on a hijacked plane, you were in a precarious position, but leaping out of your seat to be a hero was the road most likely to lead to death for you and everyone else on the flight.

This was in fact why nobody seemingly attempted to stop the hijackers in September 2001. The passengers on flight 93 did, but only after they heard the other planes had been crashed deliberately.

Now of course the prevailing wisdom is to go berserk on a hijacker because you're going to die if you don't.

I'm a very, very, small female person and a devout coward.

Other than those factors, I've no real clear picture of how my tackling a hijacker would look.

pangbang

Some stereotypical English bad guy hijacks? not sure, depends on detail.

Some Hans Gruber german? Same as above

Some scots? same

Some irish? same

Some American? Same

Some middle-eastern looking dude? In this day and age, I think you'd be fighting through the stampeding crowds to all tear him asunder.

And that says a lot when you think about it. We're all the same, pfft.

Outlaw Pete

Wouldn't have a choice tbh....... It would be instinctive for me to disarm anyone putting innocent civilians' lives in danger.

Unless they were bigger than me or armed with guns, or had something sharp maybe, or heavy and blunt.. I'd rather not get hurt you see, as I already have a bad back and if I turn my neck too quick sometimes that can hurt too.. my osteopath has said...well, that's not important.. point is I'd like to help but just think maybe it would better if someone else did is all.

Fathom

jeanjolie wrote: »

Would you stop a hijacker on board your flight?

Try as try can!

Noveight

tomwaterford wrote: »

If your going to die anyways,why would you not?

The exact thought that came to my mind.

If some dirty bastid is gonna kill Noveight you can be damn sure he's gonna have to earn it :P

Bruthal

seamus wrote: »

The world trade centre hijackings changed the game somewhat.

Up till then if someone was hijacking a plane, it was because they wanted to get somewhere, or they wanted some demands met, or perhaps they even wanted to steal a plane. Basically the hijacker wanted to live and didn't specifically want anyone on board to die.

So the prevailing wisdom was to stay calm, talk him down, land somewhere and see how it pans out. If you were a passenger on a hijacked plane, you were in a precarious position, but leaping out of your seat to be a hero was the road most likely to lead to death for you and everyone else on the flight.

This was in fact why nobody seemingly attempted to stop the hijackers in September 2001. The passengers on flight 93 did, but only after they heard the other planes had been crashed deliberately.

Now of course the prevailing wisdom is to go berserk on a hijacker because you're going to die if you don't.

It was a bad day for genuine hijackers

FishOnABike

Candie wrote: »

I'm a very, very, small female person and a devout coward.

Other than those factors, I've no real clear picture of how my tackling a hijacker would look.

Bite the ankles off them!:D

markc1184

I'd like to think I would but it's easy to say that from behind a computer screen. Different matter all together when your faced with that situation and the sh1t has hit the fan.

FishOnABike

FishOnABike wrote: »

Bite the ankles off them!:D

I could probably get at their knees, they won't be expecting that!

I might not be big and mighty but I am a pilot, so I might be handy after the bigger people take out the hijackers if the flight crew are incapacitated.

I'll get us home - I'm not saying anything about being in one piece - but definitely home! I'm not entirely useless!

FishOnABike

Candie wrote: »

I could probably get at their knees, they won't be expecting that!

I might not be big and mighty but I am a pilot, so I might be handy after the bigger people take out the hijackers if the flight crew are incapacitated.

I'll get us home - I'm not saying anything about being in one piece - but definitely home! I'm not entirely useless!

Well a 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away. A 'great' landing is one after which they can use the plane again.

demanufactured

I'd say my prayers and take my vitamins...
Then I'd walk up to the ring leader and say "Well ya know somethin brother" me and all these good people here didn't climb on this plane to die today dude!

We came here for expensive in flight meals and free movies man!
We ain't gonna let a bunch of no good hijackin bad guys ruin our day today...

Me and all my RyanAirinacs are gonna get together... Were gonna round up the troops.. And when it comes down to it...mr hijacker is gonna be begging the Hulkster for forgiveness...

And me and all my maniacs will show you what it's like to get your rear ends kicked....

*Starts tearing off shirt*

So WHATCHA GONNA DO!?!?!? .. WHEN ME AND. MY 24 INCH ARMS RUN WILD ALL OVER YOU..... BROTHER!!!

snowflaker

demanufactured wrote: »

I'd say my prayers and take my vitamins...
Then I'd walk up to the ring leader and say "Well ya know somethin brother" me and all these good people here didn't climb on this plane to die today dude!

We came here for expensive in flight meals and free movies man!
We ain't gonna let a bunch of no good hijackin bad guys ruin our day today...

Me and all my RyanAirinacs are gonna get together... Were gonna round up the troops.. And when it comes down to it...mr hijacker is gonna be begging the Hulkster for forgiveness...

And me and all my maniacs will show you what it's like to get your rear ends kicked....

*Starts tearing off shirt*

So WHATCHA GONNA DO!?!?!? .. WHEN ME AND. MY 24 INCH ARMS RUN WILD ALL OVER YOU..... BROTHER!!!

Ryanair don't show movies!

pangbang

demanufactured wrote: »

I'd say my prayers and take my vitamins...
Then I'd walk up to the ring leader and say "Well ya know somethin brother" me and all these good people here didn't climb on this plane to die today dude!

We came here for expensive in flight meals and free movies man!
We ain't gonna let a bunch of no good hijackin bad guys ruin our day today...

Me and all my RyanAirinacs are gonna get together... Were gonna round up the troops.. And when it comes down to it...mr hijacker is gonna be begging the Hulkster for forgiveness...

And me and all my maniacs will show you what it's like to get your rear ends kicked....

*Starts tearing off shirt*

So WHATCHA GONNA DO!?!?!? .. WHEN ME AND. MY 24 INCH ARMS RUN WILD ALL OVER YOU..... BROTHER!!!

That's when an aer lingus steward, 8ft tall and 9ft wide whacks you over the head with a meal tray.

"Hulk O'Hogan, you just went TOO FAR! Me, and all these little ultimate lingus warriors here are gonna teach you a lesson you'll NEVER FORGET!"

I mean, its basically the iron sheik hijacking the thing anyway.

DivingDuck

I imagine in most cases they don't run up and down the aisles shouting "We're going to smack the plane into O'Connell bridge, and you're all going to hell" as much as they do some spiel of "Ladies and gentlemen: please remain calm, this plane has been commandeered by the forces of X, we are going to land at Y, at which point you will be allowed to disembark and we will take the plane to our destination."

If they announced that everyone on board was definitely going to die, there would be a much greater chance of the passengers fighting back... But since most people will put their faith in even the smallest hope of survival, I assume they're smart enough not to announce their actual plans, and tell lies instead.

Far harder for people to work up the courage to fight, then.

wakka12

damned if you dont,only maybe damned if you do

Murrisk

tomwaterford wrote: »

If your going to die anyways,why would you not?

The vast majority of plane hijackings historically have ended with no civilians being killed. So in that context, it seems more clever to keep your head down. Sure, some hijackers might want to crash the plane, but even now, not all would.

DivingDuck wrote: »

I imagine in most cases they don't run up and down the aisles shouting "We're going to smack the plane into O'Connell bridge, and you're all going to hell" as much as they do some spiel of "Ladies and gentlemen: please remain calm, this plane has been commandeered by the forces of X, we are going to land at Y, at which point you will be allowed to disembark and we will take the plane to our destination."

If they announced that everyone on board was definitely going to die, there would be a much greater chance of the passengers fighting back... But since most people will put their faith in even the smallest hope of survival, I assume they're smart enough not to announce their actual plans, and tell lies instead.

Far harder for people to work up the courage to fight, then.

+1

Sure, the 9/11 attackers said they were going back to the airport. So, in an hijacking situation, you probably won't know what their endgame is. You might make matters worse by assuming that they want to destroy the plane.

Tigger

When stressed some people run and hide and some people meet it head on
I can't run and hide I have to meet stuff head on it acually freaks me out to not simply deal with things and it doesn't stress me at all to just deal with things
I couldn't simply stand by if bad stuff was happening on a plane cos I'm scared of planes crashing so I believe I'd probably give it a shot
I don't think I'm brave I'm simply agressive

pangbang

wakka12 wrote: »

damned if you dont,only maybe damned if you do

Dough if you did do a damn, and that damn didn't do diddly, den the dudes died defying dem dirty, danger-doin dolts, donning der domicile-done doo-dads on der dicks....at least.

Nabber

Easy to be a hero in a hypothetical situation. Only a small percentage of people would act alone, the percentile increases with bravery in numbers.

I don't know if I would. I don't know how the shock and fear would affect me.

Turtyturd

No, I'm Irish so would be too polite apparently. Wouldn't want to be offending the terrorists before I die.

DellyBelly

I reckon I'd take them out alright. There's some areas especially around the neck or throat where if you hit them they will be knocked out. I've done some martial arts so reckon I'd overcome them. If there were more then 6 I might be in trouble but less I'd fancy my chances

pangbang

DellyBelly wrote: »

I reckon I'd take them out alright. There's some areas especially around the neck or throat where if you hit them they will be knocked out. I've done some martial arts so reckon I'd overcome them. If there were more then 6 I might be in trouble but less I'd fancy my chances

So youre saying you could take out 5 dudes with necks as thick as tree trunks and wrought from pure diamond?

I reckon your fingers would melt on contact, like slivers of butter poking a raging volcano.

DellyBelly

pangbang wrote: »

So youre saying you could take out 5 dudes with necks as thick as tree trunks and wrought from pure diamond?

I reckon your fingers would melt on contact, like slivers of butter poking a raging volcano.

Look I know it wouldn't be easy but I'd fancy my chances. Better trying something then do nothing.

pangbang

Turtyturd wrote: »

No, I'm Irish so would be too polite apparently. Wouldn't want to be offending the terrorists before I die.

"Now I MUST insist!" says the remaining half of your head as it plummets to earth.

Widdershins

Tigger wrote: »

When stressed some people run and hide and some people meet it head on
I can't run and hide I have to meet stuff head on it acually freaks me out to not simply deal with things and it doesn't stress me at all to just deal with things
I couldn't simply stand by if bad stuff was happening on a plane cos I'm scared of planes crashing so I believe I'd probably give it a shot
I don't think I'm brave I'm simply agressive

Are you me?

DellyBelly

DellyBelly wrote: »

I reckon I'd take them out alright. There's some areas especially around the neck or throat where if you hit them they will be knocked out. I've done some martial arts so reckon I'd overcome them. If there were more then 6 I might be in trouble but less I'd fancy my chances

This made me think of that old episode of Friends where one old guy tells another he could kill him with his thumb.

You might be in trouble IF there were more than six.

Yes, you might be alright.