Fake 50 and 20 euros notes

beaner92

I posted a macbook on adverts and after the usual back and forth it i accepted a suitable offer. to the tune of 1300e.yesterday the gent came to a park near my house and after all the analysis of the laptop all was well. he paid me in cash . and i went home. i went to the shop this morning to buy groceries and i was handed back my note, i swapped it for another . the gent at lidl says its fake. I pay with card and hurry home to check the rest . i think 3 are real the rest are fake

I am not sure what to do from here. obviously i messaged the guy, called no answer.

What can I do, I was going to lodge the rest this afternoon but i doubt i can claim i didnt know now, and my conscience is another obstacle.

Can law enforcement help me at all???

hyperventilating...

Toots

You need to go to the gardai.

beaner92

Toots wrote: »

You need to go to the gardai.

I'm going now. What exactly can they do? I'm travelling Friday too. This has really messed me up. Can they get my laptop back ? Also would the burden of proof not lie with me. My girlfriend says so. That I have to prove he gave me fake currency. That he could claim he gave me real money and I'm trying to scam him.

She's a law student so I can understands that do

Sam Kade

How will you find him?

beaner92

Sam Kade wrote: »

How will you find him?

I don't know. Numbers a dud, I filled out a form at the police station with the serial number of the laptop and the guys phoney number . And that was it ... they will call me if the laptops turns up? I don't know how it will?

What else can I do?

RossieMan

He'll have used a burner phone. You won't be seeing him again.

njs030

beaner92 wrote: »

I don't know. Numbers a dud, I filled out a form at the police station with the serial number of the laptop and the guys phoney number . And that was it ... they will call me if the laptops turns up? I don't know how it will?

What else can I do?

Nothing I'm afraid, if they find anything they will call you but it's not a priority for them.

In future do transactions through PayPal to cover yourself.

beaner92

RossieMan wrote: »

He'll have used a burner phone. You won't be seeing him again.

Any more comforting advice or possibilities?
Can adverts.ie provide ip addresses?

njs030

beaner92 wrote: »

Any more comforting advice or possibilities?
Can adverts.ie provide ip addresses?

To the guards who will investigate now you've reported it. There is nothing else you personally can do.

Masala

How did u not spot them.... fakes are usually bad!! Bad paper and no watermark

I would have studied the notes before hanging over the laptop.
Bad bastard anyway.... hope you catch up to him

RossieMan

Live and learn? To the gaurds. Possible he'll be known to them. Tell me you took the regs of the car?

beaner92

Masala wrote: »

How did u not spot them.... fakes are usually bad!! Bad paper and no watermark

I would have studied the notes before hanging over the laptop.
Bad bastard anyway.... hope you catch up to him

They have water marks and the reflectors

beaner92

RossieMan wrote: »

Live and learn? To the gaurds. Possible he'll be known to them. Tell me you took the regs of the car?

I live near Stephen green park. We met at the park. No idea where he went after .

RossieMan

Can you post a pic if the notes?

njs030

RossieMan wrote: »

Can you post a pic if the notes?

Did the guards take them as evidence? Not much good to the op.

myshirt

Textbook scam. Usually used when buying a car. Have maybe 5 or 6 of the notes at the front be legit, and the rest fake. Create a sense of urgency to do the deal, and move on.

Op, the guards will log it and humour you, but the reality is they won't do anything. If they see a trend developing with others scammed, they will move, but other than that it's an expensive use of Garda resources with everything else that is competing for their time and attention.

punisher5112

You should look around and see if there are CCTV cameras around and if so see can you get footage kept.

Look at park CCTV and close by shops or businesses that he could well have been caught on.

beaner92

notjustsweet wrote: »

Did the guards take them as evidence? Not much good to the op.

Yes I left them with the officer . I thought the interaction would be longer, or I'd get a sketch artist to describe the guy . But it took less than 5-7 mins. And that's it .

beaner92

punisher5112 wrote: »

You should look around and see if there are CCTV cameras around and if so see can you get footage kept.

Look at park CCTV and close by shops or businesses that he could well have been caught on.

I checked the Stephens green exit off leeson street and theres no cameras pointing at the gate

beaner92

myshirt wrote: »

Textbook scam. Usually used when buying a car. Have maybe 5 or 6 of the notes at the front be legit, and the rest fake. Create a sense of urgency to do the deal, and move on.

Op, the guards will log it and humour you, but the reality is they won't do anything. If they see a trend developing with others scammed, they will move, but other than that it's an expensive use of Garda resources with everything else that is competing for their time and attention.

Can I go back and ask for a sketch artist? Or is that too much ?

punisher5112

beaner92 wrote: »

I checked the Stephens green exit off leeson street and theres no cameras pointing at the gate

You sure... Nearly sure there are.

Have a good look around.

Is that the way he came and left??

CCTV on lights and buildings along there.

beaner92

punisher5112 wrote: »

You sure... Nearly sure there are.

Have a good look around.

Is that the way he came and left??

CCTV on lights and buildings along there.

I'll cycle back and check. That's the direction he walked in after the deal was done. so I guess there's a 25% chance he used it to leave rather than loop around and use another one .

Nervous Wreck

beaner92 wrote: »

Can I go back and ask for a sketch artist? Or is that too much ?

You'd be likely enough to get laughed at, I'm afraid.

njs030

beaner92 wrote: »

Yes I left them with the officer . I thought the interaction would be longer, or I'd get a sketch artist to describe the guy . But it took less than 5-7 mins. And that's it .

Yes that's what happens when you report a minor crime, no there's no chance of a sketch artist for such a small thing.

BelovedAunt

Did he have any feedback on adverts?

beaner92

BelovedAunt wrote: »

Did he have any feedback on adverts?

Yes one good one . From last year

wordofwarning

beaner92 wrote: »

They have water marks and the reflectors

It is very difficult to get the texture and raised ink. If you looked at them properly, you would have noticed it

beaner92

So am I just down 1300. That's it ? Is there any hope at all ?... should I just forget and move on?

ED E

beaner92 wrote: »

So am I just down 1300. That's it ? Is there any hope at all ?... should I just forget and move on?

Unfortunately the latter. You're more likely to win the euromillions than recovery of funds or MBP.

Sh?tty sh?tty feeling, but best put it behind you.

enfant terrible

Are those markers shops use to check notes reliable at spotting fakes?

punisher5112

Were you still logged into any programs on computer? As in if turned on and linked to the net could you search where it is.

Also have you all the details such as unique serial number?

frag420

Can you get on to Apple with the serial and model number, perhaps they can blacklist the machine similar to how they can with iPhone? He may get back in touch with you to complain about it?

sunny2004

frag420 wrote: »

Can you get on to Apple with the serial and model number, perhaps they can blacklist the machine similar to how they can with iPhone? He may get back in touch with you to complain about it?

Thats not happenning .

minikin

Did you try locating it through iCloud account?

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT204756

jimmynokia

Check for it on sale elsehwere would be another route if you still have the number do some checking anyway because it could be off now and back on later down the road

Toots

beaner92 wrote: »

So am I just down 1300. That's it ? Is there any hope at all ?... should I just forget and move on?

Can you contact Apple and explain the situation? They may be able to remotely lock the laptop in case of theft, but this is a bit of a grey area.

Ave Sodalis

Masala wrote:

How did u not spot them.... fakes are usually bad!! Bad paper and no watermark

wordofwarning wrote:

It is very difficult to get the texture and raised ink. If you looked at them properly, you would have noticed it

I work in a shop, some fake notes are very good. We had one in and the only way to know it was fake was the serial numbers didn't match up. It had the raised ink (which doesn't apply to new notes), it even had the splatters that show up under UV light. Another had raised ink but tiny, barely noticable indents on the other side. It's a lot harder to tell with the new notes. Another the only way to tell it was fake was there were no splatters on the white part. Sometimes, the only way to tell a fake is by sitting down and thoroughly examining it, and if someone hands you over 1300 worth of 50s, you're not going to examine each one.

beaner92

I'm signed out of iCloud, ironically my house mate works for Apple. There's nothing they can do. You can blacklist devices with Apple. Only put them in lost mode.

Furthermore blacklisting can only be done with imei on iPhones or smart phones by the network not Apple.

Galadriel

Did you let the guys know in adverts.ie? hopefully they can block his account and stop someone else getting caught.

MysticMonk

Chances are he has a few adverts.is accounts and may sell the computer on,check for it for sale

velo.2010

Keep checking adverts.ie for him, whether its the account he used for dealing with you or another account that is interested in buying a similar expensive laptop and using the same sort of online patter.

To be fair, for big ticket items on Adverts/Donedeal, I'd rather they came to the house to buy or vice versa if they're selling something. The fact he was willing to meet in a park would have set the alarm bells ringing for me. I think its OK to meet someone at lunchtime or in a carpark to buy/sell a cheaper item, not for something expensive. And Obviously, only meeting after doing all due diligence by checking their feedback and speaking on the phone etc.

I hope you get your money back OP.

Atlantic Dawn

enfant terrible wrote: »

Are those markers shops use to check notes reliable at spotting fakes?

I've heard of people putting sun cream on the notes to mess with the UV detection.

Atlantic Dawn

Were they new style 20's and 50's or old or a mix of both?

Are you 100% sure they are fakes? Perhaps on the new notes the person checking them wrote on the hollograms with the pen test?

retro:electro

It's a case of buyer beware I'm afraid, with a lesson on personal responsibility added in for good measure. Let the Garda deal with it now, although you're unlikely to hear anything back.

dudara

Toots wrote: »

Can you contact Apple and explain the situation? They may be able to remotely lock the laptop in case of theft, but this is a bit of a grey area.

The macbook should be registered to your Apple account - check it and see if you have options to report stolen etc

AvonEnniskerry

Are you certain they are fakes and not the new/old notes? What feature makes you think they are fake?

Your man in lidl may have been wrong. Though unlikely. But I would double check.

retro:electro

AvonEnniskerry wrote: »

Are you certain they are fakes and not the new/old notes? What feature makes you think they are fake?

Your man in lidl may have been wrong. Though unlikely. But I would double check.

I'm sure the Garda certified that they were fake and they now have them in their possession.

amtc

I got 200 euro out of atm in Liffey street and went to pay for meal 30 euro (all fake). Was first date with guy. Embarrassing! But made it through bank. They did refund. Guy gave me real money for fakes

Appleguy

Was the guy young or old? I had a similar enough experience recently with an iPhone stolen from me and I was paid with fake notes. If you want to drop me a pm we could chat about it and if it's the same person we might be able to get the Gards to link the cases. Guards have CCTV of my guy but haven't identified him yet.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057713224

Miaireland

I would bring the notes to the Bank and get them to check them. I handed notes into a shop and was told that they were fake (notes given to me as a birthday gift). Brought them to the Bank, they carried out a few checks and told me that they were real.

Fred Swanson

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