Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - ** MOD NOTE POST #4781 **

thomond2006

Here's a thread for you count:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105458157#post105458157

bilston

Marina Old-fashioned Locket wrote: »

schmidt is not building for japan, he stated this himself many times.
i believe it when he says he takes each tournament, test and tour on their own merits.
if you look at the age profile of the squad, many of the key players will be in their mid thirties by the time japan starts and that age profile will unfortunately be a serious potential problem.
Ireland have a better chance of winning six nations and so should fully concentrate on that.
Aim for a WC quarter which is very possible and anything else is a bonus.
Our player pool is just not good enough to go about it any other way - that is the lesson schmidt took from the 2015 world cup.

Interestingly NZ had 11 players over the age of 30 in their squad in 2015.

Experienced teams tend to win world cups, not a bunch of kids.

Yeah_Right

bilston wrote: »

Interestingly NZ had 11 players over the age of 30 in their squad in 2015.

Experienced teams tend to win world cups, not a bunch of kids.

He did specify "key players". I think we can all agree that McCaw, Read, Kaino, Carter, C. Smith and Nonu weren't key players. Seriously, what would players with their experience add to a World Cup squad? Imagine how good that AB team would have been if they'd selected players who were in form.

bilston

Yeah_Right wrote: »

He did specify "key players". I think we can all agree that McCaw, Read, Kaino, Carter, C. Smith and Nonu weren't key players. Seriously, what would players with their experience add to a World Cup squad? Imagine how good that AB team would have been if they'd selected players who were in form.

Maybe it's because I'm in my mid 30s myself now but it winds me up. Age is just a fecking number. If you're the best player for the job then it doesn't matter if you're 25 or 35. Sure it gets harder, but I can honestly say that as someone who still turns out every now and then at a very social level I know a hell of a lot more about the game of rugby now than I did 10 years ago.

You throw away experience at your peril.

Stheno

Going back to Heaslip and Payne I'd hate for them to retire without a send off

I was in the Aviva for PICs send off and it was lovely

Burkie1203

Stheno wrote: »

Going back to Heaslip and Payne I'd hate for them to retire without a send off

I was in the Aviva for PICs send off and it was lovely

Id be especially gutted for Heaslip not hitting 100 caps for ireland. Every success Leinster and Ireland have had in last 10 years he has been central to it.

errlloyd

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Id be especially gutted for Heaslip not hitting 100 caps for ireland. Every success Leinster and Ireland have had in last 10 years he has been central to it.

BOD was the OTB podcast a week or two ago, and one of the things he talked about was the Centurion Dinner he had attended. Jamie was at it, because he has a hundred caps including the Lions. The presenter joked that he had only just made it, and BOD sort of dismissed it out of hand and said he'd get a few more. Assuming BOD had been talking to Jamie at the dinner, then Jamie must have been confident he'd be back.

prawnsambo

errlloyd wrote: »

BOD was the OTB podcast a week or two ago, and one of the things he talked about was the Centurion Dinner he had attended. Jamie was at it, because he has a hundred caps including the Lions. The presenter joked that he had only just made it, and BOD sort of dismissed it out of hand and said he'd get a few more. Assuming BOD had been talking to Jamie at the dinner, then Jamie must have been confident he'd be back.

Even if he retired today, it'd be with some record. Apart from the 100 international caps, he has 3 European Cup medals, 3 Pro 12 medals, a Challenge Cup medal and 3 six nations medals.

Not many players can boast that kind of tally.

prawnsambo

prawnsambo wrote: »

Even if he retired today, it'd be with some record. Apart from the 100 international caps, he has 3 European Cup medals, 3 Pro 12 medals, a Challenge Cup medal and 3 six nations medals.

Not many players can boast that kind of tally.

Yeah but headphones

connemara man

prawnsambo wrote: »

Even if he retired today, it'd be with some record. Apart from the 100 international caps, he has 3 European Cup medals, 3 Pro 12 medals, a Challenge Cup medal and 3 six nations medals.

Not many players can boast that kind of tally.

But what's he done for me lately

prawnsambo

connemara man wrote: »

But what's he done for me lately

Well his injury has kept him out of pointless pages of posts on the Ireland thread.

awec

Closed pending review.

bilston

So a back three containing Stockdale and Larmour for the WC then???

Hmmmm, that's potentially devastating.

Interested Observer

bilston wrote: »

So a back three containing Stockdale and Larmour for the WC then???

Hmmmm, that's potentially devastating.

The thread has just opened again

What have you done

Don Kiddick

Interested Observer wrote: »

The thread has just opened again

What have you done

What age will Dave Kearney be come the next WC?

bilston

Interested Observer wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

So a back three containing Stockdale and Larmour for the WC then???

Hmmmm, that's potentially devastating.

The thread has just opened again

What have you done

It's Christmas...everyone will be nice to each other!

connachta

bilston wrote: »

Interested Observer wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

So a back three containing Stockdale and Larmour for the WC then???

Hmmmm, that's potentially devastating.

The thread has just opened again

What have you done

It's Christmas...everyone will be nice to each other!

All-right

CIARAN_BOYLE

bilston wrote: »

So a back three containing Stockdale and Larmour for the WC then???

Hmmmm, that's potentially devastating.

74 hours from awec opening the thread to the first post.

I wondered how long it would take.

Now that's someone is posting does anyone have a list of players at the Irish camp last week?

MJohnston

See France have sacked Noves already, replaced him with Jacques Brunel. I'd say it's a positive for us, but I don't know if we need France to be even more unpredictable than usual.

Interested Observer

MJohnston wrote: »

See France have sacked Noves already, replaced him with Jacques Brunel. I'd say it's a positive for us, but I don't know if we need France to be even more unpredictable than usual.

They can only get better imo. Can't remember an international coach of a 6N side ever losing their job at this time of year.

swiwi_

MJohnston wrote: »

See France have sacked Noves already, replaced him with Jacques Brunel. I'd say it's a positive for us, but I don't know if we need France to be even more unpredictable than usual.

I thought noves was hopeless. His teams never seemed to have any discernible shape or game plan. They potentially have a top 5 team, some really good talent on offer but you can’t just win based on talent alone at the higher levels.

pickarooney

swiwi_ wrote: »

I thought noves was hopeless. His teams never seemed to have any discernible shape or game plan. They potentially have a top 5 team, some really good talent on offer but you can’t just win based on talent alone at the higher levels.

I think they could yet be top 5




in the 6 nations

irishbucsfan

swiwi_ wrote: »

I thought noves was hopeless. His teams never seemed to have any discernible shape or game plan. They potentially have a top 5 team, some really good talent on offer but you can’t just win based on talent alone at the higher levels.

Potentially top 5... in the 6 Nations!n:D

errlloyd

pickarooney wrote: »

I think they could yet be top 5




in the 6 nations

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Potentially top 5... in the 6 Nations!n:D

You guys.

They need a kiwi coach tbh. I can respect them wanting to stick with a French one but they're falling behind of modern rugby.

nerd69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They need a kiwi coach tbh. I can respect them wanting to stick with a French one but they're falling behind of modern rugby.

They won't hire a non French fluent coach so that may be that catch

prawnsambo

nerd69 wrote: »

They won't hire a non French fluent coach so that may be that catch

Vern Cotter?

connachta

Worcester press conference
"Peter Stringer’s contract has come to an end and he has left the Club to return to Ireland."
Right on time for RWC squad at 41 y.o and 10 months

awec

I’d sign him.

FrannoFan

connachta wrote: »

Worcester press conference
"Peter Stringer’s contract has come to an end and he has left the Club to return to Ireland."
Right on time for RWC squad at 41 y.o and 10 months

Get him to leinster and we can pick lowe in europe