Ulster Bank League 2017-2018 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

Tarf1234

menu14 wrote: »

Hearing down in Limerick that Thomond have suffered a massive blow in 2C. Darragh O'Neill (top try scorer in the division) got a red card versus Malahide for a dangerous tackle and the IRFU suspended him for 4 "meaningful" matches which is effectively a 9 week ban. Absolute madness if true. That's over 20% of the season of a suspension. When has suspensions moved from weeks to matches?

A number of years ago. Meaningful matches means any match the player could/would realistically have been selected for. It makes a lot more sense in reality then players getting suspended for 2 or 3 weeks and depending on time of the year missing no games.

$ausage$

I remember a player getting a ban for 6 weeks reduced to 5 for good behaviour after the game. We didn't have a game for 6 weeks.

I suppose it means that you cant go buck mad last game of the season and be banned for the off season.

The Lost Sheep

Irish universities training camp held in Maynooth today game against Scotland in Edinburgh on March 11th

Squad at the camp:
Cian Bohane (UCC)
Fergal Cleary (DIT/Lansdowne)
Michael Courtney (Trinity)
Kyle Dixon (Trinity)
Matthew Gilsenan (UCD)
Paul Kiernan (UCC)
Steve Kilgallen (UCD)
Mark O Keefe (DIT/Lansdowne)
Colm Mulcahy (UCD)
Nick Peters (UCD)
John Poland (UCC)
Tomas Quinlan (CIT/Cork Con)
Nathan Randles (UL/Shannon)
James Taylor (UCC)
Gerard Treanor (Queens)
Richard Walsh (UCC)

James Boland (DIT/Trinity)
Ty Chan (UL/Shannon)
Cian Madden (IT Tallaght/Terenure)
Conor Maguire (DCU/Old Wesley)
Tadhg McCarthy (UCC)
Keelan McKenna (UCD)
Brendan McSorley (Maynooth University Barnhall)
Michael Moynihan (UCD)
Ntinga Mpiko (IT Carlow/Lansdowne)
Martin Mulhall (IT Carlow/Lansdowne)
Ryan Murphy (UCC)
Lee Nicholas (UL/Shannon)
JJ O Dea (DCU/Old Wesley)
Shane O Hanlon (UCC)
Jack O Sullivan (Dublin Business School/Lansdowne)
Alex Penny (UCD)
Sam Pin (Trinity)
David St Ledger (Trinity)
Patrick Thornton (DCU/Terenure)

young munsters man

https://twitter.com/youngmunstersfa/status/962795599815987210

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/rugby/124097/Limerick-Rugby---Remembering-Young.html

25 years ago this tuesday - some game clips on young munster twitter feed -what a day

The Lost Sheep

Next weekends games.
May do preview later on in the week...
1A
Friday
Lansdowne v St Marys
Terenure v Clontarf
Saturday
Trinity v Buccaneers
UCD v Garryowen
Young Munster v Cork Con

1B
Friday
Shannon v UL Bohs in Thomond Park
Saturday
Ballymena v Naas
Ballynahinch v Banbridge
Old Belvedere v Dolphin
Old Wesley v UCC


2A
Corinthians v Highfield
Greystones v Cashel
Malone v Blackrock
Nenagh v Armagh
Queens University v Galwegians
2B
Saturday
Barnhall v Belfast Harlequins
Navan v Wanderers
Old Crescent v City of Derry
Rainey Old Boys v Dungannon
Sundays Well v Skerries
2C
Saturday
Bangor v Malahide
Seapoint v Bruff
Sligo v Bective Rangers
Thomond v Midleton
Tullamore v Omagh

young munsters man

https://twitter.com/LimkLeaderSport/status/963333447069548544

great article on leader website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2q7S1oCxHs
highlights of earlier games

Stainalert

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]1A
Friday
Lansdowne v St Marys - Hopefully we can bounce back from defeat to Garryowen - Marys seem to be improving 
Terenure v Clontarf - Terenure in better form than Clontarf at the moment 
Saturday
Trinity v Buccaneers - Think Trinity will add to Buccs misery - Buccs can't catch a break at the moment
UCD v Garryowen - Garryowen form continuing to pick up where as UCD have lost their way but suspect UCD might bounce back with a win this week
Young Munster v Cork Con - Great game in prospect Munsters really need to win to push into top 4 and are in great form since Christmas so will go with them this w'end

1B
Friday
Shannon v UL Bohs - Shannon to keep pushing Hinch for automatic 1A slot
Saturday
Ballymena v Naas - Was shocked by Ballymena's big loss to UCC, tough trip but could be rewarding for Naas
Ballynahinch v Banbridge - Big Ulster battle which I expect Hinch to narrowly win
Old Belvedere v Dolphin - Belvo can't afford to lose this as it would surely rule them out of a top 4 challenge so thing they will win 
Old Wesley v UCC - UCC pushing for promotion whilst Old Wesley looking over their shoulder at 3 teams below them. Going with Old Wesley on this 

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The Lost Sheep

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Next weekends games.
May do preview later on in the week...
1A
Friday
Lansdowne v St Marys
Terenure v Clontarf
Saturday
Trinity v Buccaneers
UCD v Garryowen
Young Munster v Cork Con

1B
Friday
Shannon v UL Bohs in Thomond Park
Saturday
Ballymena v Naas
Ballynahinch v Banbridge
Old Belvedere v Dolphin
Old Wesley v UCC


2A
Corinthians v Highfield
Greystones v Cashel
Malone v Blackrock
Nenagh v Armagh
Queens University v Galwegians
2B
Saturday
Barnhall v Belfast Harlequins
Navan v Wanderers
Old Crescent v City of Derry
Rainey Old Boys v Dungannon
Sundays Well v Skerries
2C
Saturday
Bangor v Malahide
Seapoint v Bruff
Sligo v Bective Rangers
Thomond v Midleton
Tullamore v Omagh

In 1A I see Trinity beating Buccaneers narrowly and essentially sealing Buccs faith as they'll be 8-10 points adrift
Lansdowne shouldnt have too much issue against Marys but all depends on which St Marys side turns up. If its the same kind of performance as Marys put in against Cork Con then Lansdowne will have a tough game on their hands but if not then Lansdowne will comfortably get the 4 points as they bounce back from their first loss of the season last time out.
Terenure are only ahead of Clontarf because they've obtained a few more bonus points both try scoring and losing by 7. Clontarf won the first fixture by 12 points but i feel this game will be closer than that but Terenure to win this time out.
Young Munster beat Con by narrowest margins in Temple Hill back in November but i think Cork Con may edge it this time around.
Garryowen beat Lansdowne two weeks ago before comfortably dealing with Trinity last weekend and i feel they wont have any issues against UCD in belfield as they keep the push on for a home playoff spot.


Ballynahinch and Banbridge is big game in division 1B with 1st hosting 3rd. Ballynahinch won the first game before christmas but a lot can depend on what provincial players can be available to each side. Ballynahinch to win by a score.
Shannon host Bohs in Thomond park tomorrow night in Thomond Park derby. Form can often go out window when talking about games like this but Shannon should win this by 7.
Bottom side Dolphin travel to Dublin to face Belvedere who are still harbouring hopes of making promotion playoff spot. The Cork side are picking up bonus points in defeat nearly every week and drew last week but i cant see them getting a win in Anglesea Road.
Ballymena are 9th two points off safety from relegation playoff spot and host a Naas side who's promotion prospects are beginning to slip now theyre 8 points off 4th. Ballymena's need to win is greater and i think they will edge it.

Nenagh Armagh is big game for the top of division 2A with the home side looking to bounce back from a poor loss to Galwegians last week. Theyve lost ground on the top two now and while still very likely to be in the playoffs for promotion they may have lost their shot at a home playoff game.
A win for the away side will keep them in touch for a playoff spot.
Corinthians are now bottom after their city rivals overturned Nenagh last week and it will be very tough for them this week as they host Highfield who are chasing the top spot.
Malone, who are top, host Blackrock and should win comfortably against the Dubs side who are in the fight with Greystones and the two Galway sides to avoid relegation/playoff.

Its top against Bottom in 2B when Crescent host City of Derry. Long trip for Derry and could end up very big defeat for a side who look like theyve already given up on the season.
Rainey Old Boys host Dungannon and with the away side having little to play for i can just see a home win. third placed Barnhall host Belfast Harlequins who are in 9th and nine points adrift of safety and the home side should get the win to keep up their form up for the playoffs.

Bangor hosting Malahide is top game in the bottom division and any slip by Malahide whove done very well in their first senior season could see second placed Thomond over take them to go top. Bective beat Tullamore in the last round to overtake them at the bottom and there shouldnt be any change this week with Bective facing third placed Sligo out west and Tullamore at home to mid table Omagh. But any slip by Bective or Seapoint and Tullamore could overtake them and get out of the relegation/playoff spots.

$ausage$

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The Lost Sheep

Results from today.

1A
Dublin University 21 Buccaneers 17
UCD 0 Garryowen 17
Young Munster 15 Cork Constitution 11
Lansdowne 16 St. Mary's College 9
Terenure College 19 Clontarf 18

1B
Ballymena 26 Naas 8
Ballynahinch 14 Banbridge 29
Old Belvedere 34 Dolphin 19
Old Wesley 19 UCC 22
Shannon 22 UL Bohemians 26

2A
Greystones 10 Cashel 25
Malone 54 Blackrock College 22
Nenagh Ormond 26 City of Armagh 39
Queen's University 26 Galwegians 32
Corinthians v Highfield postponed
2B
MU Barnhall 51 Belfast Harlequins 34
Navan 21 Wanderers 26
Old Crescent 104 City of Derry 0
Rainey Old Boys 23 Dungannon 14
Sunday's Well 36 Skerries 5
2C
Bangor 18 Malahide 16
Seapoint 37 Bruff 10
Sligo 45 Bective Rangers 0
Thomond 19 Midleton 17
Tullamore 11 Omagh 18

MDunne14

Buccs’s a shambles and deserve to go down , 21-0 up last week and lost , 14-0 this week and lost , we’re leading ym by 14 with 15 to play earlier in season and lost , there training and endurance isn’t up to this level

c.p.w.g.w

MDunne14 wrote: »

Buccs’s a shambles and deserve to go down , 21-0 up last week and lost , 14-0 this week and lost , we’re leading ym by 14 with 15 to play earlier in season and lost , there training and endurance isn’t up to this level

Not as bad as Derry shipped 104 points now that's a disgrace

bilston

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

MDunne14 wrote: »

Buccs’s a shambles and deserve to go down , 21-0 up last week and lost , 14-0 this week and lost , we’re leading ym by 14 with 15 to play earlier in season and lost , there training and endurance isn’t up to this level

Not as bad as Derry shipped 104 points now that's a disgrace

True, although at least they fulfilled the fixture and made the 720km round trip knowing they would get hammered.

Malmedicine

Huge win for Galweigans and now Corinthians in trouble albeit with a game in hand . Lost sheep have they turned a corner ?

The Lost Sheep

MDunne14 wrote: »

Buccs’s a shambles and deserve to go down, 21-0 up last week and lost, 14-0 this week and lost, we’re leading ym by 14 with 15 to play earlier in season and lost, there training and endurance isn’t up to this level

Slight bit harsh. Not sure its exactly training and endurance that isnt up to it.

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Not as bad as Derry shipped 104 points now that's a disgrace

17 tries. Club looks in real trouble

Malmedicine wrote: »

Huge win for Galweigans and now Corinthians in trouble albeit with a game in hand. Lost sheep have they turned a corner?

Yeah wegians looked to have things changing in big way. Theyve been losing games they should have won and have learnt from them. Corinthians are in trouble but a lot still to play for with a win for any of bottom 4 to change things up quite a bit.

young munsters man

It was one day of drama in tom clifford park sat,

con milled us first 3 scrums, scrum 4 rock solid and from then our it was our scrum driving them back, 3 all half time, then went 8 3 up with a very good jack harrington try (see clip below), con responded with a penalty and gerry hurley try to go 11-8 up. We were camped in their 22 last 7/8 mins. With 5 to go had kickable penalty do tie it up, boys went for lineout onthe 5m, con stole it cleared to 22. won next lineout and got another penalty on injury time, from the lineout gavin coombes caughts and went over, cue wild celebrations playes and supporters. Kicked a crucial conversion to take it over 3 points. Last 2 minutes were agonising we gathered posession pick and jam pick and jam kept at ref re time, won a penalty and kicked out. Great performance great victory, fine crowd,super atmosphere,biggest of the season id say, massive displays from tynan and coombes, Keeps us in top 4 hunt for another couple of weeks, very hard one now in 2 weeks time v trinity they beat us tome and away last season and at home this season

young munsters man

https://twitter.com/TheLooseH/status/964885823681368065
harrington try -first try -

https://twitter.com/ckSportLeader/status/965002496304435200

airey conversion at end

think they be showing it on against the head tonight

$ausage$

Holy Crap Balls have you seen the top of 1b? DAM I didn't think it was that tight.
Had a quick look at fixtures top 3 don't play each other again so will prob be all about BP or LBP. Makes it all a bit more exciting now there is no point in watching Ulster.

Having said that with Ulster's injuries now maybe it will deplete the two Ulster clubs in the race.

Mc Love

Shannon could have done with winning against Bohs - need to step up our game if we want to win the league.

Great to see the crowds at an AIL match in the killing fields

$ausage$

And Banbridge from what I heard it was a last min job.

I also see Banbridge where 14-0 down and then came back to win and get the BP. Obviously late bloomers. Not sure if they had any ulster boys playing or not.

irishfan9

$ausage$ wrote: »

And Banbridge from what I heard it was a last min job.

I also see Banbridge where 14-0 down and then came back to win and get the BP. Obviously late bloomers. Not sure if they had any ulster boys playing or not.

James Hume and Caleb Montgomery were.

irishfan9

Ireland Club International Team & Replacements (v Scotland Clubs, Dalriada Cup, Friday, Februray 23, 7.30, Dubarry Park, Athlone)

15. Jake Swaine - Tenenure College RFC
14. Harry Brennan - Lansdowne RFC
13. Niall Kenneally - Cork Constitution RFC
12. Matt D'Arcy - Clontarf RFC
11. Dan McEvoy - Lansdowne RFC
10. Jamie Gavin - Garryowen FC
9. Neil Cronin - Garryowen FC
1. Cronan Gleeson - Old Wesley RFC
2. Patrick Finlay - Dublin University RFC
3. Colm Skehan - Young Munster RFC
4. Alex Thompson - Terenure College RFC
5. Michael Melia - Tenenure College RFC
6. Jack Dwan - Lansdowne RFC
7. Joe McSwiney - Cork Constitution RFC
8. Michael Noone - Clontarf RFC

16. Eddie Rossiter - Old Belvedere RFC
17. Tom O'Reilly - St. Marys College RFC
18. Michael Cromie - Banbridge RFC
19. Ciaran Ruddock - St. Marys College RFC
20. Paulie Tolfua - Naas RFC
21. Angus Lloyd - Dublin University RFC
22. Mark O'Neill - Tenenure College RFC
23. Eamonn Mills - Lansdowne RFC

Stainalert

Strong looking team

$ausage$

only one ulster player, shocking

The Lost Sheep

$ausage$ wrote: »

only one ulster player, shocking

ballynahinch and banbridge going well but up to them to put players forward.
Played age grade with 2 players in the squad.
Would be interesting to see list of original clubs for most players there as quite a few are originally from junior/other senior clubs

D14Rugby

$ausage$ wrote: »

only one ulster player, shocking

What did you expect? There's no ulster clubs in 1A so of course there'd be a small representation

irishfan9

Alex Thompson is a former Ulster academy player.

$ausage$

4 1b people selected 1 from Ulster. two ulster teams in top 3 so that is where my shock comes from.

ArmchairQB

$ausage$ wrote: »

4 1b people selected 1 from Ulster. two ulster teams in top 3 so that is where my shock comes from.

A lot of their top players are academy and development players and not eligible for selection

$ausage$

oh is that the case I didn't know that.
I guess as well if you are pushing for promotion with 4 game sto go you don't exactly want to throw your best players in to another game.