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  • #1262
    lucalux
    Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lucalux


    https://www.thejournal.ie/kevin-boxer-moran-2-5000223-Feb2020/


  • #1263
    carq
    Registered Users Posts: 854 ✭✭✭carq


    check westmeath independent.

    'Reporter - ' wont it be a shame Athlone will have no TD's?''

    Boxer - '' That's Athlone's fault ''


  • #1264
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Hold the front pages...

    Last count hes in 4th. 4 seats going. No FF lad is near to the quota so transfers of their votes ain't happnin.

    Why is he conceding?


  • #1265
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    veryangryman wrote: »
    Hold the front pages...

    Last count hes in 4th. 4 seats going. No FF lad is near to the quota so transfers of their votes ain't happnin.

    Why is he conceding?

    Look at the order of the people getting eliminated later. Lots of FG votes below him.

    FG, Labour, Green, FG again. Enough there for Peter Burke FG to leapfrog Boxer.

    Independent vote share of first preferences down 12.4%. FG/FF share actually up slightly, SF up 11.5%.


  • #1266
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    McFaddens votes must be going his way from the Athlone section.

    I wouldnt call the fight yet


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  • #1267
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Alot of land by the Southern station road not at all used either by BE or even planned for new road.

    Why doesn't development get done there? It seems to be a uniquely irish thing to have to go past wasted land to get to or from somewhere.


  • #1268
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    veryangryman wrote: »
    A lot of land by the Southern station road not at all used either by BE or even planned for new road.

    All owned by CIE, I think.

    Dog in the manger - no money or plans to develop it, no way they are giving it up.


  • #1269
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    veryangryman wrote: »
    Alot of land by the Southern station road not at all used either by BE or even planned for new road.

    Why doesn't development get done there? It seems to be a uniquely irish thing to have to go past wasted land to get to or from somewhere.

    Probably someone waiting for a buyer who is willing to pay "what it's worth" for it, usually a pie in the sky valuation.


  • #1270
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    lucalux wrote: »
    https://www.thejournal.ie/kevin-boxer-moran-2-5000223-Feb2020/

    Wow, those comments below the article itself

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  • #1271
    CFlat
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭CFlat


    Boxer may dust down his taxi instead of his boat, hard to see him get a seat again after those comments.


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  • #1272
    rn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭rn


    Boxer was never the smartest, but definitely one of most hard working and honest. I think his comments have to be put in context of the absolute shock he must be in. Given his record in office as a doer.

    Many of those commenting on thejournal don't lift a finger for their communities.


  • #1273
    Blanco100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    Looks like Boxer has been thrown a lifeline, alot of transfers gained on 9th count


  • #1274
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    I wonder will Boxer have the decency to apologise to the voters if he retains his seat? Personally based on his behaviour I'd be quite happy if he loses out on a seat.


  • #1275
    scarepanda
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Looks like he's just been eliminated


  • #1276
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    scarepanda wrote: »
    Looks like he's just been eliminated

    Deserved to be, based on his contempt for the voting public.


  • #1277
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    slave1 wrote: »
    Wow, those comments below the article itself

    Odious stuff!


  • #1278
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Bad news for the town having no TD.


  • #1279
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    Boxers comments were ill judged. It must be hurtful not to get re elected. There are better ways of expressing disappointment. He may have ruined his career in politics.


  • #1280
    Ruben Remus
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Ruben Remus


    I honestly can't understand the online negativity towards Boxer. He has a right to be disappointed. He was only a TD for 4 years, and in that time he helped bring so much public investment to the town: New Coosan NS, Church St project, cycleway extension, Garda station revamp, permanent flood barriers, etc.

    What more could he have done in such a short space of time?

    He was undoubtedly a hard worker and the fact that he was voted out will be a serious setback for the town.


  • #1281
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Ruben Remus wrote: »
    I honestly can't understand the online negativity towards Boxer. He has a right to be disappointed. He was only a TD for 4 years, and in that time he helped bring so much public investment to the town: New Coosan NS, Church St project, cycleway extension, Garda station revamp, permanent flood barriers, etc.

    What more could he have done in such a short space of time?

    He was undoubtedly a hard worker and the fact that he was voted out will be a serious setback for the town.


    Nothing, it ludicrous people vote for a Sinn Fein candidate in Longford rather than an Independent local option. The same Sinn Fein candidate failed to get get in in the recent local elections. Longford and Mullingar will benefit big time in the next few years/months until another election takes place.


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  • #1282
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users Posts: 4,336 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    White lighting wrote: »
    Nothing, it ludicrous people vote for a Sinn Fein candidate in Longford rather than an Independent local option. The same Sinn Fein candidate failed to get get in in the recent local elections. Longford and Mullingar will benefit big time in the next few years/months until another election takes place.

    isn't Clarke a mullingar based candidate?


  • #1283
    White lighting
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭White lighting


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    isn't Clarke a mullingar based candidate?
    Yes correct my mistake


  • #1284
    rn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭rn


    I wouldn't write boxers political obituary just yet. It's a few comments from the heat of moment when he was down.

    People expect SF to deliver some big ticket practical actions in a short time frame. If this isn't achieved the electorate might well favour practical lads like boxer again. I think if there's another election within 12 months, he'll have a shot at a comeback. There's an element that people thought his seat was safe.


  • #1285
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    rn wrote: »
    I wouldn't write boxers political obituary just yet. It's a few comments from the heat of moment when he was down.

    People expect SF to deliver some big ticket practical actions in a short time frame. If this isn't achieved the electorate might well favour practical lads like boxer again. I think if there's another election within 12 months, he'll have a shot at a comeback. There's an element that people thought his seat was safe.
    Insulting the voters is never a good idea. Btw the seat belongs to the people whom then allowed Boxer to occupy it for 4 years which he was well renumerated for.
    Time for him to enjoy his boat.


  • #1286
    rn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭rn


    I get that your don't like boxer. Let's see how sorca Clark gets on delivering for Athlone v boxers track record 2016-2020.


  • #1287
    Saint_Mel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Whatever he may have done, its clear that the number of people he rubbed up the wrong way for whatever reason, outnumbered the number of people he done things for, and instead of being graceful in defeat he pretty much blamed the people he didn't help for his own demise.

    I'm not well up on the intricacies of the army pay restoration, and I cant remember if he official abstained or hid until the vote was over, but to live in a garrison town and not be seen to support them (even if it was never going to come good) is crazy. A lot of army votes that would have been bankers for him ended up going to SF.

    And as for the "see how little is done now" ... for many it will make no difference as if they got nothing from him during his time then they have nothing to miss. Personally when I needed the Boxer, all I got was the Bluffer

    As for his political future, rumors of his next move already circulating which will certainly rub some more people up the wrong way if it comes to pass :pac:


  • #1288
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    As I recall I thought he did great work the last time the town was flooded. Working all hours to help people.


  • #1289
    Saint_Mel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    holyhead wrote: »
    As I recall I thought he did great work the last time the town was flooded. Working all hours to help people.

    With the help of the army ... who he subsequently turned his back on


  • #1290
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    Saint_Mel wrote: »
    With the help of the army ... who he subsequently turned his back on

    Fair point re the army but still he did trojan work. However his lack of grace post election may have ended his political career. Absolutely daft comment he made.

    His best line would have been "I accepted the will of the people when they voted me in. I also have to now accept the will of the people when they voted for change" etc.


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  • #1291
    rn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭rn


    Everyone isn't employed by the army. It always makes a difference when there is government infrastructure being developed locally. It means more cash moving around the local economy.

    Of course if Sorca is pro army pay restoration and has a hand in making it happen, great. I think army pay restoration is well down the SF list of priorities though.


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