The 8th amendment(Mod warning in op)

pitifulgod

Howard Tasteless Bank wrote: »

Have you gone outside in that time? I doubt I've gone a week without seeing one since they came out. It's easier to get a feckin abortion than get one of those jumpers.

It's amazing how much they annoyed the pro-life crowd, they absolutely hate how much they caught on.

I was just getting coffee, two people wearing them. Reminded me that I should get one. Pretty inoffensive, poster has a pretty unique perspective.

splinter65

Oldtree wrote: »

I am not anxious at all, but I am very interested to get a true pucture of the levels of attendance at this highly publicised rally that organisers have been reported as saying they expect huge numbers to attend, giving imo an unbalanced view of Ireland today. I don't think that it's disrespectful to have a balanced reporting about the rally, do you?

What insults or name calling are you referring to?

Are you referring to the pro lifers calling women murderers?

Extreme pro lifers call women murderers and all sorts.
Extreme pro repeal call women nazis and facists and all sorts.
I don’t want to think that you feel this march shouldn’t have been allowed today in case it gives “an unbalanced view” but that’s what you seem to be saying?
We will see film of the rally on the 6 o’clock news.
The Gardai might estimate how many attended.
Are you suggesting both will lie? Why would they do that?

Bannasidhe

splinter65 wrote: »

Extreme pro repeal call women nazis and facists and all sorts.

Wut?

Source?

gandalf

Given the links we are seeing between high profile forced birthers and far right elements there is some justification calling anti choice supporters fascists? I mean if you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas

david75

It’s been really poorly attended, workers solidarity saying a couple of thousand tops.
John McGurk saying it’s over 100k.

Laughable. He’s literally deluded and or lying as usual.

Oldtree

splinter65 wrote: »

Extreme pro lifers call women murderers and all sorts.
Extreme pro repeal call women nazis and facists and all sorts.
I don’t want to think that you feel this march shouldn’t have been allowed today in case it gives “an unbalanced view” but that’s what you seem to be saying?

I did not say that the rally should not be allowed, the unbalanced view I am concerned with is that the numbers attending the rally will be inflated by the organisers and that will give an unbalanced view.

splinter65 wrote: »

We will see film of the rally on the 6 o’clock news.
The Gardai might estimate how many attended.
Are you suggesting both will lie? Why would they do that?

Again, I did not suggest the Gardai would lie.

splinter65

Howard Tasteless Bank wrote: »

Have you gone outside in that time? I doubt I've gone a week without seeing one since they came out. It's easier to get a feckin abortion than get one of those jumpers.

It's amazing how much they annoyed the pro-life crowd, they absolutely hate how much they caught on.

I work in a public office (very busy). I see lots of things every day but no repeal jumpers.
My niece bought one but she was disappointed with the quality for €50 (she’s a student) and it’s being worn by a giant teddy in her bedroom.
I don’t know anyone who was annoyed by a repeal jumper apart from some pro repeal people who seemed to hate them.
I’m pro life and they wouldn’t annoy me.
I’m far more annoyed by pro Palestine stuff.
How did people express this annoyance to you?

splinter65

Oldtree wrote: »

I did not say that the rally should not be allowed, the unbalanced view I am concerned with is that the numbers attending the rally will be inflated by the organisers and that will give an unbalanced view.



Again, I did not suggest the Gardai would lie.

But we’ll see the film on the news and the camera never lies. How can they inflate it if the evidence is there for all to see?

splinter65

david75 wrote: »

It’s been really poorly attended, workers solidarity saying a couple of thousand tops.
John McGurk saying it’s over 100k.

Laughable. He’s literally deluded and or lying as usual.

Are you down there yourself Dav?

david75

splinter65 wrote: »

Are you down there yourself Dav?

Nah I’m watching the rugby. Was gonna go out of curiosity but the last one was really sinister. Elderly people shouldn’t be dragging their young grandkids along to this kind of event.

splinter65

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Wut?

Source?

I don’t think you do social media so it’s pointless sending you there to do a quick look around.

Oldtree

splinter65 wrote: »

But we’ll see the film on the news and the camera never lies. How can they inflate it if the evidence is there for all to see?

I'll tune in. The save the eight group claimed earlier on Rte that 60,000 will attend.

Have a look now for yourself on social media and tell me what you think.

https://m.facebook.com/videos/live/m/redirect/780985532090885/?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FrwYSpEFfX0&notif_t=live_video_explicit&_rdr

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splinter65 wrote: »

I work in a public office (very busy). I see lots of things every day but no repeal jumpers.
My niece bought one but she was disappointed with the quality for €50 (she’s a student) and it’s being worn by a giant teddy in her bedroom.
I don’t know anyone who was annoyed by a repeal jumper apart from some pro repeal people who seemed to hate them.
I’m pro life and they wouldn’t annoy me.
I’m far more annoyed by pro Palestine stuff.
How did people express this annoyance to you?

I also work in a busy public place and I see one at least weekly. It's frankly incredible that you haven't seen one in a year tbh.

I follow social media accounts that monitor discussion on pro-life pages, there is a LOT of very salty talk about the jumpers. I'll post you some screenshots when I get a chance, seeing as "I've a feeling" "I get the impression" is apparently a standard of proof that you only apply to your own opinions?

Or how have pro choice people expressed to you that they'd rather distance themselves from the jumpers?

Bannasidhe

splinter65 wrote: »

I work in a public office (very busy). I see lots of things every day but no repeal jumpers.
My niece bought one but she was disappointed with the quality for €50 (she’s a student) and it’s being worn by a giant teddy in her bedroom.
I don’t know anyone who was annoyed by a repeal jumper apart from some pro repeal people who seemed to hate them.
I’m pro life and they wouldn’t annoy me.
I’m far more annoyed by pro Palestine stuff.
How did people express this annoyance to you?

I can't help but notice you have made several references to what pro-repeal people think/are offended by etc etc yet, apart from that one link to a known pro-life source, you haven't provided a shred of evidence.

This may come as a shock but what you think other people think isn't actually indicative of any thing bar what you think.

david75

Laughable estimate of today's crowd. Live stream and crowd counting can be followed on Solidarity Times tinyurl.com/y7lyl4zf

Oldtree

Life institute claiming 100,000 at rally. Guess it's very easy to overestimate numbers at the peak of an events social media interest.

Bannasidhe

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t think you do social media so it’s pointless sending you there to do a quick look around.

So you got nothing.
Again.

I have no idea who you have convinced yourself I am but I am highly amused by how stunningly wrong you are in all of your pronouncements about me.

Keep digging. That credibility of yours is in the minus figures now.

splinter65

Oldtree wrote: »

I'll tune in. The save the eight group claimed earlier on Rte that 60,000 will attend.

Have a look now for yourself on social media and tell me what you think.

https://m.facebook.com/videos/live/m/redirect/780985532090885/?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FrwYSpEFfX0&notif_t=live_video_explicit&_rdr

Oldtree you’ve posted a video being filmed by a socialist party where they’ve stood with an iPhone fixed at a random spot trying to record the amount of people passing on their way to the rally.
Crowds are filing past, quite slowly and one of the film makers is trying to count in tens and getting out of breath with the effort.
What do you see?

amdublin

I'm wearing my repeal jumper today.

I wear it most weekends tbh. I feel it's got an important message. Today I made a special effort to represent in front of the pro-birthers.

I just felt like telling y'all that. Have a good Saturday everyone

Oldtree

Workers solidarity claiming 7,000 at rally. One has to wonder at the disparity in numbers being claimed.

gandalf

Oldtree wrote: »

Life institute claiming 100,000 at rally. Guess it's very easy to overestimate numbers at the peak of an events social media interest.

Hmmm they probably hit the holy wine too hard beforehand

Oldtree

splinter65 wrote: »

Oldtree you’ve posted a video being filmed by a socialist party where they’ve stood with an iPhone fixed at a random spot trying to record the amount of people passing on their way to the rally.
Crowds are filing past, quite slowly and one of the film makers is trying to count in tens and getting out of breath with the effort.
What do you see?

I don't see 100,000 people let alone 60,000. I have been in the middle of 250,000 people in Boston so I know what that looks like.

Jimbob1977

david75 wrote: »

Laughable estimate of today's crowd. Live stream and crowd counting can be followed on Solidarity Times tinyurl.com/y7lyl4zf

Silent voters swing elections.

Clinton was expected to cruise past Trump

Britain was expected to remain in the European Union

Neither happened.

It doesn't matter how many people march today or during the week. It matters how many people tick a box in the summer.

Don't assume it's in the bag because of snazzy jumpers and the media.

eviltwin

A mate of mine is there. He's saying 100k but he says over 50% that he can see are over 65

That age demographic must be a concern.

splinter65

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So you got nothing.
Again.

I have no idea who you have convinced yourself I am but I am highly amused by how stunningly wrong you are in all of your pronouncements about me.

Keep digging. That credibility of yours is in the minus figures now.

Once again I have to tell you I’m not interested in how strangers value me.
I gather that’s important to you but I could never understand it.
It’s what you do for other people that’s important, not what people think of you, or admire you for what you do, or how much you are appreciated.
Starting to feel under appreciated escalates quickly into a general unhappiness that settles and never really leaves.
I met a lovely woman yesterday volunteering with the St Vincent De Paul who just goes about looking after people with no ego or fuss whatsoever. She’s totally taken for granted and taken advantage of and she knows that but this is what she wants to do and she’s perfectly happy.
Bro Kevin and Sr Stan and Fr McVerry are the same.
If your not a woman I heard on the Joe Duffy show some weeks ago then I’ve got you mixed up with someone else and that’s my mistake.

splinter65

amdublin wrote: »

I'm wearing my repeal jumper today.

I wear it most weekends tbh. I feel it's got an important message. Today I made a special effort to represent in front of the pro-birthers.

I just felt like telling y'all that. Have a good Saturday everyone

Have a good Saturday amdublin!

splinter65

david75 wrote: »

Laughable estimate of today's crowd. Live stream and crowd counting can be followed on Solidarity Times tinyurl.com/y7lyl4zf

Is that the Facebook live link you posted earlier?

garbo speaks

I honestly think there is a silent pro-life majority in this country, that will stun the liberal elites come referendum day.

splinter65

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Silent voters swing elections.

Clinton was expected to cruise past Trump

Britain was expected to remain in the European Union

Neither happened.

It doesn't matter how many people march today or during the week. It matters how many people tick a box in the summer.

Don't assume it's in the bag because of snazzy jumpers and the media.

Indeed. Who can forget Teresa May last spring ? Terrifying .

amdublin

splinter65 wrote: »

Have a good Saturday amdublin!

I sure will. Twill be all the better after the May referendum when I have full personal bodily autonomy.