The 8th amendment(Mod warning in op)

garbo speaks wrote: »

In the marriage referendum, no one wanted to murder innocent unborn children.

Indeed. Back then the implied message was that the gheys wanted to be able to adopt children so they could abuse them... some times it wasn't even implied...

RobFowl wrote: »

I am pro repeal but am quite disappointed with the ridicule and contempt some pro repeal seem to treat pro lifers with. There is a nasty and arrogant undercurrent which I fear will reduced the chance of this being repealed.

Look at the smart comments and glee at over-estimates of the numbers marching today as an example...

If you made this remark on Facebook you’d be called a ****ing twat.
Here is very easy going in comparison.
Also here there are supporters of very left wing groups which always means a lot of very distorted reality which doesn’t help.

RobFowl wrote: »

I am pro repeal but am quite disappointed with the ridicule and contempt some pro repeal seem to treat pro lifers with. There is a nasty and arrogant undercurrent which I fear will reduced the chance of this being repealed.

Look at the smart comments and glee at over-estimates of the numbers marching today as an example...

Nonsense! Glee! On such a serious issue? You are being overly sensitive.

david75

So in not at all shocking news the plc are lying

https://twitter.com/wsmireland/status/972504704105304065?s=21

garbo speaks

pitifulgod wrote: »

We heard similar in relation to marriage referendum...

In the marriage referendum, no one wanted to murder innocent unborn children.

Bannasidhe wrote: »

A noble sentiment which I agree with even as I am puzzled by it's relevance to this discussion. Or what prompted you to make it as all I have done is point out where you have commented about what other people think/feel etc.
Speak only for yourself and you and I won't have an issue.

And I have never been on liveline and never will be.

Totally have confused you with someone else then. Typical me.

splinter65 wrote: »

Oldtree you’ve posted a video being filmed by a socialist party where they’ve stood with an iPhone fixed at a random spot trying to record the amount of people passing on their way to the rally.
Crowds are filing past, quite slowly and one of the film makers is trying to count in tens and getting out of breath with the effort.
What do you see?

They recorded the march from the start as it went past. they are going by slowly but very very patchy.

100,000 no
60,000 no

maby between 7,000 and 10,000 at most.

pitifulgod

garbo speaks wrote: »

I honestly think there is a silent pro-life majority in this country, that will stun the liberal elites come referendum day.

We heard similar in relation to marriage referendum...

garbo speaks wrote: »

I honestly think there is a silent pro-life majority in this country, that will stun the liberal elites come referendum day.

The 12 weeks seems to be the big issue with the child bearing years folk, from what I can make out.

RobFowl

garbo speaks wrote: »

I honestly think there is a silent pro-life majority in this country, that will stun the liberal elites come referendum day.

I am pro repeal but am quite disappointed with the ridicule and contempt some pro repeal seem to treat pro lifers with. There is a nasty and arrogant undercurrent which I fear will reduced the chance of this being repealed.

Look at the smart comments and glee at over-estimates of the numbers marching today as an example...

splinter65 wrote: »

Once again I have to tell you I’m not interested in how strangers value me.
I gather that’s important to you but I could never understand it.
It’s what you do for other people that’s important, not what people think of you, or admire you for what you do, or how much you are appreciated.
Starting to feel under appreciated escalates quickly into a general unhappiness that settles and never really leaves.
I met a lovely woman yesterday volunteering with the St Vincent De Paul who just goes about looking after people with no ego or fuss whatsoever. She’s totally taken for granted and taken advantage of and she knows that but this is what she wants to do and she’s perfectly happy.
Bro Kevin and Sr Stan and Fr McVerry are the same.
If your not a woman I heard on the Joe Duffy show some weeks ago then I’ve got you mixed up with someone else and that’s my mistake.

A noble sentiment which I agree with even as I am puzzled by it's relevance to this discussion. Or what prompted you to make it as all I have done is point out where you have commented about what other people think/feel etc.
Speak only for yourself and you and I won't have an issue.

And I have never been on liveline and never will be.

amdublin

splinter65 wrote: »

Have a good Saturday amdublin!

I sure will. Twill be all the better after the May referendum when I have full personal bodily autonomy.

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Silent voters swing elections.

Clinton was expected to cruise past Trump

Britain was expected to remain in the European Union

Neither happened.

It doesn't matter how many people march today or during the week. It matters how many people tick a box in the summer.

Don't assume it's in the bag because of snazzy jumpers and the media.

Indeed. Who can forget Teresa May last spring ? Terrifying .

garbo speaks

I honestly think there is a silent pro-life majority in this country, that will stun the liberal elites come referendum day.

david75 wrote: »

Laughable estimate of today's crowd. Live stream and crowd counting can be followed on Solidarity Times tinyurl.com/y7lyl4zf

Is that the Facebook live link you posted earlier?

amdublin wrote: »

I'm wearing my repeal jumper today.

I wear it most weekends tbh. I feel it's got an important message. Today I made a special effort to represent in front of the pro-birthers.

I just felt like telling y'all that. Have a good Saturday everyone

Have a good Saturday amdublin!

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So you got nothing.
Again.

I have no idea who you have convinced yourself I am but I am highly amused by how stunningly wrong you are in all of your pronouncements about me.

Keep digging. That credibility of yours is in the minus figures now.

Once again I have to tell you I’m not interested in how strangers value me.
I gather that’s important to you but I could never understand it.
It’s what you do for other people that’s important, not what people think of you, or admire you for what you do, or how much you are appreciated.
Starting to feel under appreciated escalates quickly into a general unhappiness that settles and never really leaves.
I met a lovely woman yesterday volunteering with the St Vincent De Paul who just goes about looking after people with no ego or fuss whatsoever. She’s totally taken for granted and taken advantage of and she knows that but this is what she wants to do and she’s perfectly happy.
Bro Kevin and Sr Stan and Fr McVerry are the same.
If your not a woman I heard on the Joe Duffy show some weeks ago then I’ve got you mixed up with someone else and that’s my mistake.

eviltwin

A mate of mine is there. He's saying 100k but he says over 50% that he can see are over 65

That age demographic must be a concern.

Jimbob1977

david75 wrote: »

Laughable estimate of today's crowd. Live stream and crowd counting can be followed on Solidarity Times tinyurl.com/y7lyl4zf

Silent voters swing elections.

Clinton was expected to cruise past Trump

Britain was expected to remain in the European Union

Neither happened.

It doesn't matter how many people march today or during the week. It matters how many people tick a box in the summer.

Don't assume it's in the bag because of snazzy jumpers and the media.

splinter65 wrote: »

Oldtree you’ve posted a video being filmed by a socialist party where they’ve stood with an iPhone fixed at a random spot trying to record the amount of people passing on their way to the rally.
Crowds are filing past, quite slowly and one of the film makers is trying to count in tens and getting out of breath with the effort.
What do you see?

I don't see 100,000 people let alone 60,000. I have been in the middle of 250,000 people in Boston so I know what that looks like.

gandalf

Oldtree wrote: »

Life institute claiming 100,000 at rally. Guess it's very easy to overestimate numbers at the peak of an events social media interest.

Hmmm they probably hit the holy wine too hard beforehand

Workers solidarity claiming 7,000 at rally. One has to wonder at the disparity in numbers being claimed.

amdublin

I'm wearing my repeal jumper today.

I wear it most weekends tbh. I feel it's got an important message. Today I made a special effort to represent in front of the pro-birthers.

I just felt like telling y'all that. Have a good Saturday everyone

Oldtree wrote: »

I'll tune in. The save the eight group claimed earlier on Rte that 60,000 will attend.

Have a look now for yourself on social media and tell me what you think.

https://m.facebook.com/videos/live/m/redirect/780985532090885/?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FrwYSpEFfX0&notif_t=live_video_explicit&_rdr

Oldtree you’ve posted a video being filmed by a socialist party where they’ve stood with an iPhone fixed at a random spot trying to record the amount of people passing on their way to the rally.
Crowds are filing past, quite slowly and one of the film makers is trying to count in tens and getting out of breath with the effort.
What do you see?

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t think you do social media so it’s pointless sending you there to do a quick look around.

So you got nothing.
Again.

I have no idea who you have convinced yourself I am but I am highly amused by how stunningly wrong you are in all of your pronouncements about me.

Keep digging. That credibility of yours is in the minus figures now.

Life institute claiming 100,000 at rally. Guess it's very easy to overestimate numbers at the peak of an events social media interest.

david75

Laughable estimate of today's crowd. Live stream and crowd counting can be followed on Solidarity Times tinyurl.com/y7lyl4zf

splinter65 wrote: »

I work in a public office (very busy). I see lots of things every day but no repeal jumpers.
My niece bought one but she was disappointed with the quality for €50 (she’s a student) and it’s being worn by a giant teddy in her bedroom.
I don’t know anyone who was annoyed by a repeal jumper apart from some pro repeal people who seemed to hate them.
I’m pro life and they wouldn’t annoy me.
I’m far more annoyed by pro Palestine stuff.
How did people express this annoyance to you?

I can't help but notice you have made several references to what pro-repeal people think/are offended by etc etc yet, apart from that one link to a known pro-life source, you haven't provided a shred of evidence.

This may come as a shock but what you think other people think isn't actually indicative of any thing bar what you think.

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splinter65 wrote: »

I work in a public office (very busy). I see lots of things every day but no repeal jumpers.
My niece bought one but she was disappointed with the quality for €50 (she’s a student) and it’s being worn by a giant teddy in her bedroom.
I don’t know anyone who was annoyed by a repeal jumper apart from some pro repeal people who seemed to hate them.
I’m pro life and they wouldn’t annoy me.
I’m far more annoyed by pro Palestine stuff.
How did people express this annoyance to you?

I also work in a busy public place and I see one at least weekly. It's frankly incredible that you haven't seen one in a year tbh.

I follow social media accounts that monitor discussion on pro-life pages, there is a LOT of very salty talk about the jumpers. I'll post you some screenshots when I get a chance, seeing as "I've a feeling" "I get the impression" is apparently a standard of proof that you only apply to your own opinions?

Or how have pro choice people expressed to you that they'd rather distance themselves from the jumpers?