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Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb in world dropped on Afghanistan

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    #242
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    America​ used smaller Daisy cutters in Vietnam bombs and russia dropped numerous of their version in Grozny and other Chechnya cities ,
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    #243
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    The "shepard" probably was thinking about his evening tea tho. Incinerating him won't add anything to the sum of human achievements. It's like bombing the fcuk out of a wedding because 1 lad playing in the band is a naughty boy. I'm not a fan of indiscriminate killing. I don't hugely care what other "bigger picture" factors come into play.

    If a lad from ISIS parks outside my house, checking his phone for snapchat messages and Trumpy slaps a hellfire into his Suzuki, causing me to become "collateral damage", I'm gonna be quite p1ssed off, it has to be said. I'm guessing the Shepherd probably feels the same. Or felt. Before some daft cnut with warped moral inclinations incinerated him.

    Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

    As for "warped moral inclinations" you may want to read up on the Daesh manifesto.

    You've a lot more to worry about than a few shepards


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    #244
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Gatling wrote: »
    America​ used smaller Daisy cutters in Vietnam bombs and russia dropped numerous of their version in Grozny and other Chechnya cities ,


    They were used a lot in iraq. They were basically pallet bombs used to smash bunker complexes .

    There were 6 tonne bombs dropped by both sides in ww2 so the idea of heavy ordinance to smash hard targets is not new


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    #245
    Systemsdarken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭Systemsdarken


    The only problem I have with this is Trump: I think he's quite capable of using it to feed his ego. If it was s military necessity and killed large numbers of IS...


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    #246
    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Its considered a nuclear weapon, a small one.

    Eh it's not a nuclear weapon. It doesn't have the components for a nuclear weapons.

    It's a massive bomb.


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    #247
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    They were used a lot in iraq. They were basically pallet bombs used to smash bunker complexes .

    Not really they don't use them to smash bunkers or bunker complexes due to their nature , they for the most part were used to clear large mine fields and as psychological effects
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    #248
    PREG1967
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    kona wrote: »
    Eh it's not a nuclear weapon. It doesn't have the components for a nuclear weapons.

    It's a massive bomb.
    da bomb


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    #249
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not really they don't use them to smash bunkers or bunker complexes due to their nature ,

    Ah,i suppose you'd need something with more penetrative power to get through the roof?
    But i do remember hearing about these in Iraq,what is their proper role?


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    #250
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Ah,i suppose you'd need something with more penetrative power to get through the roof?
    But i do remember hearing about these in Iraq,what is their proper role?
    psychological


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    #251
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Ah,i suppose you'd need something with more penetrative power to get through the roof?
    But i do remember hearing about these in Iraq,what is their proper role?

    Originally designed to clear tress for landing areas in jungles and wooded areas ,
    In Iraq they were used to detonate large mine fields and anti personal ,
    Also used in the Tora Bora complex in Afghanistan
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    #252
    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Ah,i suppose you'd need something with more penetrative power to get through the roof?
    But i do remember hearing about these in Iraq,what is their proper role?

    The idea is to suck the oxygen out of the area and suffocate the scum.

    And sort of physical maiming of them would be a bonus.


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    #253
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    psychological


    Not if it misses.

    People during the London blitz who survived didn't exactly lose the will to fight


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    #254
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Not if it misses.

    People during the London blitz who survived didn't exactly lose the will to fight
    shows superiority, its a guided bomb, gps makes sure it doesnt miss, who mentioned missing?


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    #255
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    kona wrote: »
    The idea is to suck the oxygen out of the area and suffocate the scum.

    And sort of physical maiming of them would be a bonus.


    A similarsized napalm and white phosphorus bomb would've been good too


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    #256
    Jawgap
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Not really they don't use them to smash bunkers or bunker complexes due to their nature , they for the most part were used to clear large mine fields and as psychological effects

    They use the Massive Ordinance Penetrator for buried bunkers.....bigger again than the MOAB.


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    #257
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    shows superiority, its a guided bomb, gpd makes sure it doesnt miss, who mentioned missing?

    Well if it hits you it will kill you..That's not a psychological effect..Being blown to bits is very physical.


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    #258
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Well if it hits you it will kill you..That's not a psychological effect..Being blown to bits is very physical.
    its meant to effect all of the enemies army psychologically and kill who it hits directly :pac: obviously


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    #259
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Jawgap wrote: »
    They use the Massive Ordinance Penetrator for buried bunkers.....bigger again than the MOAB.

    Technically it's smaller it's dropped B2 bombers where​ the Moab can only be dropped out of a C130 rear ramp
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    #260
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    A similarsized napalm and white phosphorus bomb would've been good too

    Napalm is pretty much banned and wouldn't have the same impact as a fuel/air bomb (which is essentially what the MOAB) is.

    Likewise "Wiley Pete" scorches and like napalm has a low over pressure when it detonates. Both are terrifying in confined spaces, but getting they're limited in their blast radius and the challenge is to get them into those spaces.


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    #261
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The donald kicking isis ass and putting them in body bags yet the liberals still complain.

    I welcome this. Its time we destroy isis and not let them grow like obama did


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    #262
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    its meant to effect all of the enemies army psychologically and kill who it hits directly :pac: obviously

    I still think they should've added a bit of white phosphorus


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    #263
    Pac1Man
    Registered Users Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    MOAB.jpg

    It looks like one of those fat oversized pencils that were around in the 90s.

    Impressive looking device to be fair.


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    #264
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    I still think they should've added a bit of white phosphorus

    Was this bomb strike followed up with infantry or cavalry i wonder, surely they'd need to mop up afterwards and take survivors back for interrogation


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    #265
    A Little Pony
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    America is getting what they voted for. They voted for a tougher President than Obama, a different direction on foreign policy naturally when you have someone with the aggression of Trump. I have to say I have agreed with much of his foreign policy decisions so far.


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    #266
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    I still think they should've added a bit of white phosphorus
    Its about the length, diameter, warhead and penetration,rather than any white phosphorus that might come out of it


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    #267
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Gatling wrote: »
    Technically it's smaller it's dropped B2 bombers where​ the Moab can only be dropped out of a C130 rear ramp

    Yeah, the MOP is physically smaller because it has to be carried by an intruding aircraft and it relies on a kinetic energy effect to penetrate (up to 20m of concrete buried under 70m of earth) before detonating (not unlike myself :D).....but the energy yield is greater because a denser explosive is used, probably something like Octol.


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    #268
    Allah snackbar
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    Wrong thread


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    #269
    Beyondgone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    The follow-up weapon - the MILF - Massive Implosion Low Fatalities - is designed to suck terrorists in and then spit them out. Without any strings attached or collateral damage. The Hawks have a severe hard-on for the MILF as it offers a high-end solution to the age old problem of going soft on terrorists.

    Enough blast porn?


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    #270
    Pugzilla
    Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    MOAB is not the world's most powerful non nuclear bomb, that would be the Russian's FOAB, Father of all Bombs.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs

    MOAB isn't designed to penetrate hardened targets. It's for shock and awe.


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    #271
    Beyondgone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Pugzilla wrote: »
    MOAB is not the world's most powerful non nuclear bomb, that would be the Russian's FOAB, Father of all Bombs.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs

    MOAB isn't designed to penetrate hardened targets. It's for shock and awe.

    That was covered ages ago. We're all experts on MOABS, MOPs, FOABS, MILFS, OAPS, hardened penetration, air bursts and stiffened weaponry at this stage.


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