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100 gay men detained in 'concentration camps' in Chechnya — read first post

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  • #92
    snowflaker
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    Ireland wasn't so different 35 years ago in regards viewing the worthlessness of life of a gay man

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn

    We much speak out against the horrors in Chechnya - it has no place in civilised society.

    It doesn't give us a carte blanche to ignore the plight of refugees either, some only seem concerned for rights of others to mask xenophobia and racism.


  • #93
    Help!!!!
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    There were some people on another thread trying to make out that Chechnya is run by Russia so its not Muslims that are doing it.


  • #94
    Help!!!!
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    Ireland wasn't so different 35 years ago in regards viewing the worthlessness of life of a gay man

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn

    We much speak out against the horrors in Chechnya - it has no place in civilised society.

    It doesn't give us a carte blanche to ignore the plight of refugees either, some only seem concerned for rights of others to mask xenophobia and racism.

    It would cost a lot less & be beneficial to a lot more refugees if they stay in the Middle East or Africa. There are so many countries that are not at war


  • #95
    snowflaker
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Do they only capture the gay men when there's proof that they're gay? I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

    maybe if she wasn't wearing such a short skirt she wouldn't have aroused him...

    nobody is "asking for it"


  • #96
    snowflaker
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    It would cost a lot less & be beneficial to a lot more refugees if they stay in the Middle East or Africa. There are so many countries that are not at war

    Cost a lot less for whom??? Have we no responsibility or basic human nature to help our fellow man?


    We're only citizens of the West through accident of birth


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  • #97
    neverever1
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    maybe if she wasn't wearing such a short skirt she wouldn't have aroused him...

    nobody is "asking for it"

    What has that got to do with my post?


  • #98
    Help!!!!
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    Cost a lot less for whom??? Have we no responsibility or basic human nature to help our fellow man?


    We're only citizens of the West through accident of birth

    We would be helping our fellow man, closer to their own countries
    So how many should we take in??


  • #99
    JupiterKid
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    This is just sick and sad. Chechnya using gay men as scapegoats and Putin playing a cynical game of politics over the situation.


  • #100
    snowflaker
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    What has that got to do with my post?

    I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.


  • #101
    neverever1
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

    Yeah? I'm sure there is. Don't you think so? How is that victim blaming?


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  • #102
    ceadaoin.
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    What has that got to do with my post?

    And what does this topic have to with refugees?


  • #103
    snowflaker
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Yeah? I'm sure there is. Don't you think so? How is that victim blaming?

    If you can't see why, I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.


  • #104
    neverever1
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    And what does this topic have to with refugees?

    It all seems very strange doesn't it?


  • #105
    neverever1
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    If you can't see why, I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.

    :D You won't explain it to me because you can't!


  • #106
    wakka12
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Do they only capture the gay men when there's proof that they're gay? I'm sure there's less flamboyant behaviour from the gays over there to avoid suspicion.

    Members of the lgbt community are bribed to give names of other gay people they know, families are also advised to give away names of gay family members or murder them themselves


  • #107
    snowflaker
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    :D You won't explain it to me because you can't!

    I explained it with the analogy tbf


  • #108
    neverever1
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    Members of the lgbt community are bribed to give names of other gay people they know, families are also advised to give away names of gay family members or murder them themselves

    But would the gay people giving the names of other gay people not be revealing themselves? They take a bit of money but it won't be worth much to them when they're dead.


  • #109
    neverever1
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    I explained it with the analogy tbf

    You didn't. You clearly misunderstood what I said, you realise that now but you don't want to admit it. I'm embarrassed for you.


  • #110
    Help!!!!
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    Why is it that members of the LGBTQ would rather protest Trump, with their pink pussy hats & burka's etc but do nothing about " gay concentration camps in Chechnya "? Oh right Trump is the big bad boogey man


  • #111
    wakka12
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    But would the gay people giving the names of other gay people not be revealing themselves? They take a bit of money but it won't be worth much to them when they're dead.

    Maybe they gave immunity to some gay people if they rewarded them with lots and lots of names of other gay people, for instance. I don't know, all I heard on the news was that members of the lgbt community were bribed to give names of other gay men they knew


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  • #112
    snowflaker
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Why is it that members of the LGBTQ would rather protest Trump, with their pink pussy hats & burka's etc but do nothing about " gay concentration camps in Chechnya "? Oh right Trump is the big bad boogey man

    We are.


  • #113
    wakka12
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Why is it that members of the LGBTQ would rather protest Trump, with their pink pussy hats & burka's etc but do nothing about " gay concentration camps in Chechnya "? Oh right Trump is the big bad boogey man

    This really annoys me too! Fair enough if you live in America,maybe, but I see so many rants on Facebook all the time from people in ireland about Trump, when theres so many more genuinely evil leaders all over the world, it just makes it seem so petty


  • #114
    Help!!!!
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    We are.

    You are what?


  • #115
    neverever1
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    Maybe they gave immunity to some gay people if they rewarded them with lots and lots of names of other gay people, for instance. I don't know, all I heard on the news was that members of the lgbt community were bribed to give names of other gay men they knew

    Signing their own death warrants if you ask me.


  • #116
    snowflaker
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    You are what?

    Protesting about Chechnya


  • #117
    snowflaker
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Signing their own death warrants if you ask me.

    Prisoner's dilemma


  • #118
    Help!!!!
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    This really annoys me too! Fair enough if you live in America,maybe, but I see so many rants on Facebook all the time from people in ireland about Trump, when theres so many more genuinely evil leaders all over the world, it just makes it seem so petty

    Whats worse is that Trump is pro LGBTQ & they took the whole " grab the pussy " thing out of context


  • #119
    Help!!!!
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    Protesting about Chechnya

    When? Where?


  • #120
    wakka12
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Signing their own death warrants if you ask me.

    Or maybe its not a financial bribe and they used means of spying or surveillance to find out somebody was gay, and then threatened they'd kill them if they didnt give away names of other people
    Im sure theres more to it than we know and I'm sure theres lots of individual cases


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  • #121
    snowflaker
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Whats worse is that Trump is pro LGBTQ & they took the whole " grab the pussy " thing out of context

    How is Trump pro LGBTQ?


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