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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    tnegun wrote: »
    Bring your laptop so you can show them the footage and don't expect to get the USB key back either so use one you can afford to loose!
    Tell them that the evidence is available online: https://streamable.com/ize1m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Entirely my own fault :o I knew this hole was there under the leaves and had sent a couple of emails asking for it and the leaves to be dealt with. I underestimated how large it was and almost paid the ultimate price
    https://streamable.com/tt1yk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Tell them that the evidence is available online: https://streamable.com/ize1m


    From experience they might be able to play it on their phones but not on any garda pc/laptop in the station.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Some day in the future maybe we can look forward to well thought out, sensible cycle lane designs like this



    The video helpfully shows a before/after comparison for the route.
    Just so much safer then before.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Some day in the future maybe we can look forward to well thought out, sensible cycle lane designs like this

    ....

    The video helpfully shows a before/after comparison for the route.
    Just so much safer then before.

    Their before is still pretty epic compared to our own


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    The 70 million leaves on the cycle lane beside the grand canal were swept up into nice mounds today. Had a shaky moment where I didn’t spot one quick enough and cycled through it. Didn’t come off but came close. Don’t really see the purpose of sweeping them up into big piles. Either sweep and take them away or leave them. I’d rather one consistent blanket of wet leaves than piles of them dotted at random.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,736 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Round our way they use the small street sweeper for hard to reach places and the big one on the road with a man with a leaf blower walking ahead of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭RGS



    Had to travel home that way this evening at 5.30pm. Wet dark and unable to use the cycle lane. Well done the council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    creedp wrote: »
    Again that fact is irrefutable. However I've lost count if the times I am driving in heavy urban traffic and indicating left well in advance of a junction only to have to hit the brakes to allow a cyclist to undertake me at just as I'm turning left. All I get for my consideration is at best a fist shaken at me with verbals but can also get a fist against the car window as the muppet squeezes past. Now could I be considered to be dangerously overtaking a vulnerable cyclist or is the cyclist dangerously undertaking me?



    As I both cycle and drive I can see both sides and all I am doing is calling out muppetry on both sides because no matter who is at fault for an accident the cyclist will come off worst
    If you're crossing a cycle lane when turning left, then you need to check that it is clear and give way to traffic already in that lane, just like when crossing any other lane.


    Do you call out muppetry like the 98% of drivers who break urban speed limits often?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Not a near miss for me and oddly one the Gardai won't listen too as it didn't involve me directly. Coming to a red light and I stop behind the car there. Pedestrian steps out on amber but it turns red as they do. It's a single lane, only a few seconds to clear it. Car rolls forward and brake tests the pedestrian, who jumps and says sorry. Just as they are at the other side of the bumper, Sir Dickface revs his engine and jumps forward before slamming on again. I mean a cm at best was what the pedestrian was away from irreparable knee damage and other injuries.

    For what, the 3 second, if even delay, guy got caught at the next lights, in the bus lane. It was a new level of d1ckishness.

    What is wrong with people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Not a near miss for me and oddly one the Gardai won't listen too as it didn't involve me directly.
    Are you sure? I've reported many incidents of drivers using phones that didn't directly involve me, other than as a witness.

    But yeah, what is wrong with people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Good few clowns on the toad on the commute home, lots of debris and leaves on the verge so lots of close passing.

    Had some tool in a UK registered E200 merc whizz past me at park gate street, music blaring. He was turning right into the Phoenix park. As he was stopped, A few cyclists overtook him, signalling right. He nudged forward. He gunned the car to the extent that given the rain the back end of the car flipped out. Not sure if it was deliberate or not but he momentarily lost control of the car. Could have ended very nastily for the four cyclists in front of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Not a near miss for me and oddly one the Gardai won't listen too as it didn't involve me directly. Coming to a red light and I stop behind the car there. Pedestrian steps out on amber but it turns red as they do. It's a single lane, only a few seconds to clear it. Car rolls forward and brake tests the pedestrian, who jumps and says sorry. Just as they are at the other side of the bumper, Sir Dickface revs his engine and jumps forward before slamming on again. I mean a cm at best was what the pedestrian was away from irreparable knee damage and other injuries.

    For what, the 3 second, if even delay, guy got caught at the next lights, in the bus lane. It was a new level of d1ckishness.

    What is wrong with people.

    A real case of this old add required:


    I reported a car last year who hit a cyclist 30m in front of me with his wing mirror and drove on. Guards weren't interested as I was only a witness (didn't involve me directly) and the victim hadn't reported it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,196 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Not a near miss for me and oddly one the Gardai won't listen too as it didn't involve me directly. Coming to a red light and I stop behind the car there. Pedestrian steps out on amber but it turns red as they do. It's a single lane, only a few seconds to clear it. Car rolls forward and brake tests the pedestrian, who jumps and says sorry. Just as they are at the other side of the bumper, Sir Dickface revs his engine and jumps forward before slamming on again. I mean a cm at best was what the pedestrian was away from irreparable knee damage and other injuries.

    For what, the 3 second, if even delay, guy got caught at the next lights, in the bus lane. It was a new level of d1ckishness.

    What is wrong with people.

    My house mate was injured a couple of months ago. Walking across the road at a pedestrian crossing and the light changed before she got to the other side. Dickhead just drove through her. Unfortunately I don't think she got enough of the reg for them to catch the guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,098 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Are you sure? I've reported many incidents of drivers using phones that didn't directly involve me, other than as a witness......
    I presume that because using a mobile phone while driving doesn't involve a specific victim as such whereas the incident above does. Just as if you reported that you witnessed a particular person being assaulted or something similar. The Gardai expect the victim to make the complaint and won't take it from a third party.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,736 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    more interestingly, i saw what could have been an expensive day for a chap driving a BMW who passed me on leopardstown road
    two days in a row (i didn't commute yesterday) - only a few hundred metres from the one above, another near collision. someone in a land rover discovery, with no lights on (it was properly dark) decided to change lanes without indicating and fair put the heart crossways in the motorist behind and to the right - the disco was overtaking me as we passed through the junction with torquay road.
    i should point out that there was no sign of an indicator as he or she passed me - perhaps they had flicked it on briefly before passing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭p15574


    Duckjob wrote: »
    Here's the thing (or things):
    It's very tiresome and tedious that the default response of so many now is to try to derail every single discussion laws on cyclist safety laws as well as every single discussion around cycle infrastructure etc with the same tired old anecdote based crap about the behavior of a certain subset of people seen on bikes.

    Every. Single. Time. That there's an online news story about anything helping cyclists - such as this law, or a call for better infrastructure, 90% of the comments are whataboutery about RLJs/hi-viz/2 abreast/road tax etc etc etc ad nauseam. It doesn't help when the Irish Times helps things along by actually printing letter mentioning road tax, like they did today. It just propagates the myth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Spent an hour looking at different routes last night to remove one of the most dangerous sections from my commute. I realized I was just be stubborn by staying with it and could just end up dead and right. Added 5 mins and about a km to my commute but was much less stressful so think I'll be sticking with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭p15574


    I find the head cam footage nauseating but not as nauseating as the pig ignorant agression by that prick.
    Straight to the gardai with that video!

    Will be interesting to see how many excuses the guards make how they can't prosecute. Re the head cam, I stopped using it because I felt like a d*ck, but I find the handlebar mounted one is much shakier from the vibration - must investigate rubber washers or something. The head cam also has the advantage of seeing what you see, eg drivers on their phones.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    p15574 wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see how many excuses the guards make how they can't prosecute. Re the head cam, I stopped using it because I felt like a d*ck, but I find the handlebar mounted one is much shakier from the vibration - must investigate rubber washers or something. The head cam also has the advantage of seeing what you see, eg drivers on their phones.

    Even if they won't go after the driver due to the close pass which breaks the new law, the driver very clearly crossed over the solid white line into oncoming traffic.

    Thats just out and out dangerous driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    p15574 wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see how many excuses the guards make how they can't prosecute. Re the head cam, I stopped using it because I felt like a d*ck, but I find the handlebar mounted one is much shakier from the vibration - must investigate rubber washers or something. The head cam also has the advantage of seeing what you see, eg drivers on their phones.
    I switched to a mount that clips to the strap of your bag or similar after someone recommended it. Works well. Not much shake. I'll try and dig up the link if you're interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    This morning. I'd a few close passes like this. This one felt rather close though. Maybe i was just being over sensitive because i was fooking drenched.

    https://streamable.com/9gidc


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    This morning. I'd a few close passes like this. This one felt rather close though. Maybe i was just being over sensitive because i was fooking drenched.

    https://streamable.com/9gidc
    What gap was between you both? A foot?
    You had no chance were you to avoid an obstacle suddenly.
    Report IMO!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    This morning. I'd a few close passes like this. This one felt rather close though. Maybe i was just being over sensitive because i was fooking drenched.

    https://streamable.com/9gidc

    It's def a close pass and based on their course they planned to do the same to the cyclist in front of you as they are driving in the cycle lane.

    Does your video show them close passing the next cyclist as well?

    If so def report the driver, not only do you have your close pass but you have evidence of them doing it to the cyclist in front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    This morning. I'd a few close passes like this. This one felt rather close though. Maybe i was just being over sensitive because i was fooking drenched.

    https://streamable.com/9gidc

    Jesus christ no that was bad. I'd be sending that to the gards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    That's a close pass okay, but the guards will probably come up with some BS that the driver doesn't cross the broken white line - does up ahead though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Cabaal wrote: »
    It's def a close pass and based on their course they planned to do the same to the cyclist in front of you as they are driving in the cycle lane.

    Does your video show them close passing the next cyclist as well?

    If so def report the driver, not only do you have your close pass but you have evidence of them doing it to the cyclist in front.

    No, it was a lad on an electric scooter actually. There's a set of traffic lights there so the car stopped and the lad on the scooter went through on red.

    What's the best way to report it? Via email?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    That's a close pass okay, but the guards will probably come up with some BS that the driver doesn't cross the broken white line - does up ahead though.
    Surely there are no lazy gardai who try and avoid proceeding with their duties? ;)
    https://twitter.com/righttobikeit/status/1194294778759913475


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    This morning. I'd a few close passes like this. This one felt rather close though. Maybe i was just being over sensitive because i was fooking drenched.

    https://streamable.com/9gidc

    Wainsfort Rd? A saw a cyclist lying on the footpath the other morning along there. Lolly pop lady was saying she thought he broke his arm. It’s a horribly busy stretch in the mornings. The painted lane is a disaster. Cars think because there’s “2” lanes they can squeeze along and it’s grand.


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