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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Had a near miss in the slip lane that goes past the Spa Hotel on the N4. Idiot driver coming from Dodsboro decided to stare to their left as they pulled out not looking at me coming towards him at about 45km/h.
    I screamed at him as I'm passing the side and front of the car but he didn't turn his head.
    No idea how I wasn't hit to be honest.
    He obviously saw me after I passed and kept his distance until he got the courage to pass me outside the car dealership.
    Strong flashing front light and usual high viz-crap obviously can't make a cretin driver face traffic as they pull out!
    I'll check the rear camera when in the office tomorrow but reckon it won't show much. Need to get a forward facing camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    Well these all make my minor incident seem fairly minor. I’m on the Ballymun Road outbound near the petrol station, in the bus lane (due to the amount of left turns in quick succession there, I’ve started taking the bus lane rather than the cycle lane). White Toyota saloon overtakes in the lane to my right, then pulls straight across me with the indicator on, then stops at a 45 degree angle across the bus lane. I suspect they saw me as they were making the turn. Middle of the day, I’m right in the middle of the lane with a bright green jacket. Still, not as bad as the ones posted above!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,736 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just past there, i've had issues (while i'm headed outbound) with people heading inbound, but swinging right off ballymun road onto canice's road, and who simply don't have their radar on to detect cyclists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    just past there, i've had issues (while i'm headed outbound) with people heading inbound, but swinging right off ballymun road onto canice's road, and who simply don't have their radar on to detect cyclists.
    Yeah I’m counting Canice’s as one of the lefts. Though I haven’t had that happen (yet!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    micar wrote: »
    Had an unpleasant incident with van driver who took exception to me taking the lane as I approaching a right turn into my office.

    When he pulled along side me with the window down he hurled abuse at me.....camera didn't pick it up.

    I emailed his employer over the weekend to make him aware of what happened. His employer turns out to be recreational cyclist. He said he was going to speak to his employee.


    Thats shocking behaviour did he clip you with his mirror?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    Almost hit a pedestrian who decided to cross road when signal was
    Red for him and he decided to just look one side before starting to cross...disc brakes to the rescue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Had a near miss in the slip lane that goes past the Spa Hotel on the N4. Idiot driver coming from Dodsboro decided to stare to their left as they pulled out not looking at me coming towards him at about 45km/h.


    That junction is lethal for it, even if they see you drivers completely underestimate how fast you're moving. I haven't had a hattrick there yet as I gave up using the bike lane and now avoid the N4 altogether. It is possible that by using the bike lane and timing it just right you can have a full 67x unload 20 or more passengers into the bike lane just before the junction then if you’ve safely avoided them very difficult as 50% will have their heads buried in their phones doing the zombie shuffle immediately after the bike lane re-joins the carriageway just short enough that drivers don’t notice so someone will left hook you if you’ve survived that far then you can be cut up by someone merging inconsiderately! I only ever managed 2/3 but came close on several occasions before I gave up on that stretch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    Breezer wrote: »
    Well these all make my minor incident seem fairly minor. I’m on the Ballymun Road outbound near the petrol station, in the bus lane (due to the amount of left turns in quick succession there, I’ve started taking the bus lane rather than the cycle lane). White Toyota saloon overtakes in the lane to my right, then pulls straight across me with the indicator on, then stops at a 45 degree angle across the bus lane. I suspect they saw me as they were making the turn. Middle of the day, I’m right in the middle of the lane with a bright green jacket. Still, not as bad as the ones posted above!

    That's a constant in that spot, either the turn for the school before the petrol station or the station itself. If you look back over my posts, my son was nearly knocked down there maybe five years ago by someone breaking a red light on the pedestrian. Hate that route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    tnegun wrote: »
    That junction is lethal for it, even if they see you drivers completely underestimate how fast you're moving. I haven't had a hattrick there yet as I gave up using the bike lane and now avoid the N4 altogether. It is possible that by using the bike lane and timing it just right you can have a full 67x unload 20 or more passengers into the bike lane just before the junction then if you’ve safely avoided them very difficult as 50% will have their heads buried in their phones doing the zombie shuffle immediately after the bike lane re-joins the carriageway just short enough that drivers don’t notice so someone will left hook you if you’ve survived that far then you can be cut up by someone merging inconsiderately! I only ever managed 2/3 but came close on several occasions before I gave up on that stretch

    Don't like even using that lane in the car. People just don't check properly and pull out, while those coming on to it from the N4 don't slow down. N4 is a nightmare for dirving anyhow. Insane amount of crashes on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭HibernianRunner


    Today at around 11.15 am on rathmines rd. lower heading away from town just before st. Mary's college. I was knocked off my bike by a silver car(don't know the make), flying out from a side road. Gave me no chance. I hit him at his left front wheel and went flying off my bike onto the path. The driver didn't stop and drove off. I was shocked. I got up and noticed a taxi across the road. I called out to him "Did you see what just happened?" He said in broken english "I saw, I saw" But he had a passenger he just picked up and drove away. I hadn't the presence of mind to ask for assistance.

    So I locked my bike and walked up to the garda station in rathmines to report what happened. But because I did not get the reg of the car that hit me nor the reg of the taxi who saw the incident that it was a slim chance they would be caught. They would check if there was any CCTV footage.

    Anyway it was while talking to the garda that the pain started to hit me in my left arm which had taking most of the brunt of the fall. I had to get an ambulance to St. James after initially turning it down thinking I was fine. So after around six hours in emergency I got x-rayed. I have a fracture in my left elbow but it should easily heal within 3/4 weeks. I just have to keep it in a sling and take painkillers.

    P.S I hope my bike is safe, I locked it outside Swann centre Gym/swimmimg pool. It will be there for a few days I expect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Jesus sorry to hear that and glad you're ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Ffs the Gardaí in Rathmines are bloody useless. I’ve had 3 incidents now reported to them and nothing came of them. And now youre involved in a hit and run with a fracture and it’s “ah sure look these things happen”. What the **** is wrong with people. Both the unbothered Gardaí and the driver for just heading on. Should have told the Gardaí you were a pedestrian and they’d be out looking for them.

    Hope you’re not too sore or out of work for too long. I’d be onto the staff in the pub at that junction yourself enquiring about cctv. I’ve had countless near misses there at rush hour but you’d think at 11am in a clear day you’d be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭HibernianRunner


    Thanks for the replies. I am a mature student in Rathmines College, studying full time so am not working. Luckily I am right handed so I can go back on thurs/fri If I feel ok and not miss too much studies. Looking back it was my ruck-sack that took most of blow of the fall. By the way I was wearing a hi-vis ruck-sack cover(flouresnt-yellow) and had my rear light on as well. Also there was a lull in the traffic, so no other cars involved, the road was quiet too. It was just me, and clear as daylight, no traffic lights either. The driver was just completely reckless. I am feeling a lot better thanks to nurofen now. One thing I wasn't wearing a helmet. I think I will in future as the first thing the guards asked was, "was I wearing a helmet?". The Doctors and nurses also kept asking me that as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Ah look hold on a minute. By his own admission the OP says he had absolutely no details whatsoever and then had to go in an ambulance. What do you expect them to do, take a statement in the ambulance? All he has to do is call back and report it properly and make a statement. If by then there's no action then fair enough but your comment is completely OTT.

    I wish you well in your recovery Hibernian Runner

    He said “ But because I did not get the reg of the car that hit me nor the reg of the taxi who saw the incident that it was a slim chance they would be caught” and that he was a while with the Garda.

    As I said I’ve reported 3 incidents to that station and they’ve had 4K footage provided and still wouldn’t act. Their attitude is absolutely ****e.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    micar wrote: »
    Not a near miss......but two cars ignoring unmarked garda car with sirens blaring
    Jebus
    Thanks for the replies. I am a mature student in Rathmines College, studying full time so am not working. Luckily I am right handed so I can go back on thurs/fri If I feel ok and not miss too much studies. Looking back it was my ruck-sack that took most of blow of the fall. By the way I was wearing a hi-vis ruck-sack cover(flouresnt-yellow) and had my rear light on as well. Also there was a lull in the traffic, so no other cars involved, the road was quiet too. It was just me, and clear as daylight, no traffic lights either. The driver was just completely reckless. I am feeling a lot better thanks to nurofen now. One thing I wasn't wearing a helmet. I think I will in future as the first thing the guards asked was, "was I wearing a helmet?". The Doctors and nurses also kept asking me that as well.
    I presume you didn't hit your head. It is a reaction from people you hear all the time. i have had friends hurt their knees. First reaction from a doctor is to say, lucky you were wearing a helmet. There is no legal requirement and stats indicate that at a population level, it is your choice that is more important. In fact the only noted benefit that has been shown in Ireland to wearing a helmet is in a civil case, it weighs against you not too. I am neither pro or anti helmet, I am pro making your own choice. If you now want to wear one, you should, but if you don't and feel pressurised, you shouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭buffalo


    the first thing the guards asked was, "was I wearing a helmet?".

    I'm not surprised, but still completely flabbergasted. What difference does it make if you were wearing a helmet? How is that in any way relevant to the hit and run? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭p15574


    All the coaches go up the bus lane going northbound over the bridge - no problem there, however the bus lane is a left turn only. The coaches then bully all c=(cars and bikes) to pull onto traffic as they go over the junction.

    This is EVERY, SINGLE, TIME.

    Same for 90% of taxis. Really, really bugs me every time I drive over that bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    New law making no difference from Portmarnock to Baldoyle this morning. String of close passes made into oncoming traffic.
    Cant wait for the cycle lane to open....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,158 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Zulu wrote: »
    New law making no difference from Portmarnock to Baldoyle this morning. String of close passes made into oncoming traffic.
    Cant wait for the cycle lane to open....

    And I had thought over the past two weeks there was a notable change...

    Until this morning on the same stretch. A lot of bad ones, and one driver who I find is notorious deciding to pull up beside me and gesture his finger at me to move in... where he meant I just don't know, perhaps he wants me to swim to work...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    New law not making a difference this morning for me either. Had a close pass from a taxi, this time on the left as I was in the middle of a right turn lane close to the turn itself. He didn’t do it at speed but still caught me on the hop as he passed pretty close to me on the left and then nipped in front of me so he could make the right turn before I did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    As well all know, laws are useless without enforcement...

    Every morning the bus lanes around North Dublin are used as speedways for those in a hurry, Bus's are delayed, cyclists are passed closely at speed, people do it because they know the chance of being stopped by the Gardai is minimal, same with close passing laws..
    Can't remember the last time I saw a Garda on a bicycle patrolling the roads..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    As well all know, laws are useless without enforcement...

    Every morning the bus lanes around North Dublin are used as speedways for those in a hurry, Bus's are delayed, cyclists are passed closely at speed, people do it because they know the chance of being stopped by the Gardai is minimal, same with close passing laws..
    Can't remember the last time I saw a Garda on a bicycle patrolling the roads..

    Probably not allowed out on their bikes now with the cold weather. Imagine if one of them hit a patch of ice or got a bit wet & got the sniffles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    P.S I hope my bike is safe, I locked it outside Swann centre Gym/swimmimg pool. It will be there for a few days I expect.

    Hey, sorry to hear of the f*cking sh1tty hit & run and glad to hear you think the recovery might not take too long.
    If you want I can try to get your bike back to you so it's not left there for several days? Or even get it unlocked and drop it into the Garda station for the few days, let them at least help you in some small way?

    PM me if you want to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭buffalo


    neris wrote: »
    Probably not allowed out on their bikes now with the cold weather. Imagine if one of them hit a patch of ice or got a bit wet & got the sniffles.

    I saw one last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,551 ✭✭✭VW 1


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Jebus


    I presume you didn't hit your head. It is a reaction from people you hear all the time. i have had friends hurt their knees. First reaction from a doctor is to say, lucky you were wearing a helmet. There is no legal requirement and stats indicate that at a population level, it is your choice that is more important. In fact the only noted benefit that has been shown in Ireland to wearing a helmet is in a civil case, it weighs against you not too. I am neither pro or anti helmet, I am pro making your own choice. If you now want to wear one, you should, but if you don't and feel pressurised, you shouldn't.

    Was leaving the work car park at the same time as a girl from my office last week and she asked was I mad cycling without a helmet. Light-hearted, but I asked would she not feel at risk in the dark with no lights on the bike.. the response was but sure I'm wearing hiviz so it's fine. Just left it at that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    As well all know, laws are useless without enforcement...

    Every morning the bus lanes around North Dublin are used as speedways for those in a hurry, Bus's are delayed, cyclists are passed closely at speed, people do it because they know the chance of being stopped by the Gardai is minimal, same with close passing laws..
    Can't remember the last time I saw a Garda on a bicycle patrolling the roads..
    People have no fear of the Guards pulling them over and understandably so. Recently was stopped 2 cars back from a Garda car at a red light. The light on the other road changed to red and at least 2-3 more cars came through and even slightly blocked the junction in front of the cops. They didn't pay the slightest bit of attention and continued on as normal. And they were almost definitely in the area for traffic management because there was a rugby match going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    VW 1 wrote: »
    Was leaving the work car park at the same time as a girl from my office last week and she asked was I mad cycling without a helmet. Light-hearted, but I asked would she not feel at risk in the dark with no lights on the bike.. the response was but sure I'm wearing hiviz so it's fine. Just left it at that!

    One of the consequences of all the media bullsh1t about hi-viz is that some people on bikes seem to believe it and therefore prioritise it over lights :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Saw a driver take a right hand turn off Beech Hill Rd onto Clonskeagh Road a full two seconds after the lights had gone red. Came about a foot away from creaming a guy on a moped who'd just set off from the lights. Caught up with him about a minute later in a queue of traffic. Fiddling with his phone like about 40% of the drivers around him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Barely a wet week into the minimum passing law, and has some fool almost crushes me between his car and a parked lorry on the way home this evening - all to get to a red light at Park Gate street heading into the Phoenix Park.

    I was indicating with my right arm out in plenty of time to pass the parked lorry. Conscious of a car coming behind, he was travelling at approximately my speed. So elevated my out stretched arm to indicate my intentions. Car kept coming. Started waving my arm - no impact on driver. Car squeezed by me and the truck, giving me inches before stopping at the red light. Must look back on the video, but maybe the driver was engrossed in their phone or watching a YouTube video - they didn't even react when I pulled along side and gave a dirty look. Genuinely in another world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,774 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Barely a wet week into the minimum passing law, and has some fool almost crushes me between his car and a parked lorry on the way home this evening - all to get to a red light at Park Gate street heading into the Phoenix Park.

    Its going to be a meaningless law if there are not a string of Motorists sanctioned in the first few weeks. Just look at how poor the enforcement is on otherong estsblished Road Traffic offences, including among other things, driving whilst disqualified, speeding, passing a red light whilst lit, etc
    We can only hope but will it be Bob Hope or No Hope?


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