Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

average_runner

micar wrote: »

Hence why you should never beep at a pedestrian crossing the road........slow down and let them cross... .much better than them stopping and you knocking them down.

Sometimes idiots need a good wake up call!! Takes alot to make me beep at someone, but if I do, they know about it

average_runner

Utter Consternation wrote: »

He was going left up ahead but I think he was trying to get ahead of the traffic by using the bus lane.

I'm embarrassed about my reaction, but I'm fed up with that type of behaviour.

Wouldnt worry about your reaction, imagine what he is saying in his car

Utter Consternation

average_runner wrote: »

Wouldnt worry about your reaction, imagine what he is saying in his car

That's the annoying thing. It's pure ignorance and impatience.

When he was going by me he sheepishly pointed at the cycle lane inside. I don't think he expected me to react like i did. My facial expression was not exactly radiating happiness.

buffalo

Utter Consternation wrote: »

When he was going by me he sheepishly pointed at the cycle lane inside.

Which is contra-flow anyway and no use to you heading south-bound.

Seth Brundle

buffalo wrote: »

Which is contra-flow anyway and no use to you heading south-bound.

Are you sure about that or has it changed since the StreetView images were taken?
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3483487,-6.251573,3a,75y,314.9h,85.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ-w-_o9am4AUUeIFRhZwMw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

Utter Consternation

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Are you sure about that or has it changed since the StreetView images were taken?
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3483487,-6.251573,3a,75y,314.9h,85.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ-w-_o9am4AUUeIFRhZwMw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

I'd be fairly sure it is contraflow. I've gone up it once and there's only room for one cyclist on it (as i met someone coming the other way).

Plus, as you can see in the video, there's a big bicycle drawn on the road in the lane that i am occupying.

Seth Brundle

I don't know.
I don't see any contra flow signs and at the bridge end of the cycle lane, "Look Left" is painted on the footpath for pedestrians (see my Google maps link).

buffalo

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I don't know.
I don't see any contra flow signs and at the bridge end of the cycle lane, "Look Left" is painted on the footpath for pedestrians (see my Google maps link).

"Look left" as that's where the majority of the traffic is coming from. It's not marked very clearly I agree, but it's designed as a continuation of the lane on the bridge, through the crossing, and on to the island where the eternal flame is. The orientation of the bike symbol in the lane is about the only clue though.

I encountered some severe road rage there one day - I was in the middle lane so I could head onto George's Quay, but the guy was apoplectic and screaming out the window that I was an asshole for not using the bike lane. It's about the only time I can recall that I left the road out of fear that he would genuinely run me over, he was absolutely convulsed with rage. I pointed out that it was contra-flow, but he was beyond listening.

Your instinct probably served you well there buffalo in that situation. Really is best to get away from that type of person asap.

droidus

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I don't know.
I don't see any contra flow signs and at the bridge end of the cycle lane, "Look Left" is painted on the footpath for pedestrians (see my Google maps link).

Its contra flow, designed for a left turn for cyclists coming off the quays.

mistermaster

droidus wrote: »

Its contra flow, designed for a left turn for cyclists coming off the quays.

You sure? I sometimes cycle along there, and sometimes use that lane when travelling in the same direction as in the video. There's nothing at that end of it (the end where the video starts) to say that you shouldn't enter it there.
If it IS a contraflow, where are cyclists travelling in the opposite direction supposed to go when they get to that point? Is that not just an abrupt end for them?
Am confused!

CramCycle

Utter Consternation wrote: »

He was going left up ahead but I think he was trying to get ahead of the traffic by using the bus lane.

I'm embarrassed about my reaction, but I'm fed up with that type of behaviour.

I was expecting language like a dockers but that was quite mild, I greet co workers with more uncivilised tones first thing in the morning.

site_owner

mistermaster wrote: »

You sure? I sometimes cycle along there, and sometimes use that lane when travelling in the same direction as in the video. There's nothing at that end of it (the end where the video starts) to say that you shouldn't enter it there.
If it IS a contraflow, where are cyclists travelling in the opposite direction supposed to go when they get to that point? Is that not just an abrupt end for them?
Am confused!

It's contraflow continued from the bridge, check Google maps for the toucan crossing

It gets you to the cycle lane at the fire sculpture and you can go across to busaras and out amiens St then

fat bloke

omri wrote: »

Smirk all you want. I cant be bothered when Im in 2 tonnes car. I wish it was a requirement for every driver to have a week of cycling as part of drivers licence course. But youre not doing cycling community any favours. Roads are for cars, like it or hate it. Some common sense and mutual respect will save people lives. If you dont care thats your choice. Not the first time people here seem to be very black or white in their views. Which I find strange given that we need to use roads to do this sport.

Roads are for cars? Are you fcukin serious? Where exactly is it that you cycle??

Seth Brundle

fat bloke wrote: »

Where exactly is it that you cycle??

https://youtu.be/zj9a9aEaNnA

Fighting Tao

mistermaster wrote: »

You sure? I sometimes cycle along there, and sometimes use that lane when travelling in the same direction as in the video. There's nothing at that end of it (the end where the video starts) to say that you shouldn't enter it there.
If it IS a contraflow, where are cyclists travelling in the opposite direction supposed to go when they get to that point? Is that not just an abrupt end for them?
Am confused!

I’m 100% certain it’s contraflow as is the the same side of the bridge. It then crosses to the eternal flame and up Amiens st.

magicbastarder

micar wrote: »

Hence why you should never beep at a pedestrian crossing the road........slow down and let them cross... .much better than them stopping and you knocking them down.

reminds me of a situation a couple of years ago where i realised (while out in the car) that two teenagers were about to come a cropper; i can't even remember who was at fault, just that there was another car heading for them - and i was about to lay on the horn when i had that 'oh **** if they hear the horn and freeze it'll make it worse' hesitation. by the time i made up my mind, the situation had resolved itself with no-one killed, thankfully. as far as i can remember there were mutual angry gestures with no lessons learned.

p15574

micar wrote: »

Hence why you should never beep at a pedestrian crossing the road........slow down and let them cross... .much better than them stopping and you knocking them down.

Exactly - sometimes it's much better to fly past an unsuspecting pedestrian in the bike lane as you can better predict their path. If you shout at them or whatever, you don't know what way they're going to jump, or they could freeze there. Obviously slowing down is better, but sometimes you don't have time to.

mistermaster

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I’m 100% certain it’s contraflow as is the the same side of the bridge. It then crosses to the eternal flame and up Amiens st.

Well, I guess I'd better stop going the wrong way on it then! Thanks.
I only go that way sometimes, and never realised this before. Funny that I've never actually met somebody coming the other "proper" direction though.
Anyway, could still do with a sign at the end I entered from and where the video starts. Might help at least some drivers see too that a bike isn't actually supposed to be in that lane, so no point in blowing at them like taxi driver did in the video.

Utter Consternation

mistermaster wrote: »

Well, I guess I'd better stop going the wrong way on it then! Thanks.
I only go that way sometimes, and never realised this before. Funny that I've never actually met somebody coming the other "proper" direction though.
Anyway, could still do with a sign at the end I entered from and where the video starts. Might help at least some drivers see too that a bike isn't actually supposed to be in that lane, so no point in blowing at them like taxi driver did in the video.

I went up it before and met a cyclist coming the other way. There is definitely no room for two cyclists coming in opposing directions.

It makes sense that it is contra flow when you consider the design of it.

Ray Palmer

That cycle lane has got to be one of the worst in the city. I have seen it flooded so many times and shocked it wasn't with the rain. Did the finally put a proper drain in it?

CramCycle

Minor altercation with a taxi driver yesterday evening, interestingly no interest in waiting when i told him I'd happily wait for the Gardai. He said he wouldn't and I let him know in my politest french that of course he wouldn't wait because he knew he was a dangerous ^&*(.

To be fair to the bus driver in front, he told me violence never solves anything, and he was dead right, guess it was the straw that broke the camels back. Never hit the driver, even after he scared the sh1t out of me and skimmed by me blaring on the horn. He does need a new wing mirror, and I am currently typing one handed with a sore right hand in a glass of ice at the minute.

silverharp

^^

Did you take out his mirror or did he take you out with his mirror?

CramCycle

silverharp wrote: »

^^

Did you take out his mirror or did he take you out with his mirror?

I took out his mirror, I just snapped. I did say I would wait for the gardai. It was just his attitude, that because I was in the bus lane (for all of 100m, at 40kmph), which I had moved into when he was almost out of sight, and was indicating back in when he started beeping me and was a few cm from my wheel, not slowing. Somehow what he felt it was me being dangerous and that was justification for his behaviour. It was out of character, I started with a calm tone but the level of stupidity in his responses, I just flipped, told him what I though of him behaving like such a dangerous F***ol*. I asked him to call the gardai, gave him my name, and then I just hit the mirror. In those 3 seconds I let out alot of pent up frustration towards anyone who treats me like an annoyance rather than someone they simply do not know.

droidus

TBH, Im surprised this doesn't happen more often.

Cycled around the outside of 6 cars in a row approaching some lights yesterday morning, every driver on their phone, some of them still moving.

Thinkingaboutit

CramCycle wrote: »

I took out his mirror, I just snapped. I did say I would wait for the gardai. It was just his attitude, that because I was in the bus lane (for all of 100m, at 40kmph), which I had moved into when he was almost out of sight, and was indicating back in when he started beeping me and was a few cm from my wheel, not slowing. Somehow what he felt it was me being dangerous and that was justification for his behaviour. It was out of character, I started with a calm tone but the level of stupidity in his responses, I just flipped, told him what I though of him behaving like such a dangerous F***ol*. I asked him to call the gardai, gave him my name, and then I just hit the mirror. In those 3 seconds I let out alot of pent up frustration towards anyone who treats me like an annoyance rather than someone they simply do not know.

He might learn, hopefully, that menacing other road users is wrong.

hesker

CramCycle wrote: »

I took out his mirror, I just snapped. I did say I would wait for the gardai. It was just his attitude, that because I was in the bus lane (for all of 100m, at 40kmph), which I had moved into when he was almost out of sight, and was indicating back in when he started beeping me and was a few cm from my wheel, not slowing. Somehow what he felt it was me being dangerous and that was justification for his behaviour. It was out of character, I started with a calm tone but the level of stupidity in his responses, I just flipped, told him what I though of him behaving like such a dangerous F***ol*. I asked him to call the gardai, gave him my name, and then I just hit the mirror. In those 3 seconds I let out alot of pent up frustration towards anyone who treats me like an annoyance rather than someone they simply do not know.

Know how you feel. I snapped at a guy who I felt was putting my life in real danger for absolutely no reason. Didn’t hit anything but I let off a lot of steam. Then after relaying the incident here I had the additional pleasure of some asshole telling me that I over reacted.

Rechuchote

droidus wrote: »

TBH, Im surprised this doesn't happen more often.

Cycled around the outside of 6 cars in a row approaching some lights yesterday morning, every driver on their phone, some of them still moving.

Very odd that no action is taken on this. It would surely be simple to place phone jammers at all junctions and at random other places.

Utter Consternation

hesker wrote: »

Know how you feel. I snapped at a guy who I felt was putting my life in real danger for absolutely no reason. Didn’t hit anything but I let off a lot of steam. Then after relaying the incident here I had the additional pleasure of some asshole telling me that I over reacted.

Every time i have a near miss i have the classic reliving of the incident where i imagine that I punch the guys lights out or comeback with a killer one liner. In real life this never happens and i probably always come across as a stuttering buffoon.

There is also the chance that if you did react you might come across a total psycho and they might fookin hit you over the head with an iron bar, driver over you or stab you.

Some of the taxi drivers or other drivers out there wouldn't exactly be kind natured people who respect the law.

magicbastarder

Rechuchote wrote: »

Very odd that no action is taken on this. It would surely be simple to place phone jammers at all junctions and at random other places.

how do you identify phones being used illegally by drivers, as opposed to those being used by passengers, or hands-free, or by nearby pedestrians?