Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

axer

magicbastarder wrote: »

how does it work from a general natural justice point of view about a complaint made about someone which a garda decides is not actionable. can they/do they keep a record in any system of this?

e.g. if a neighbour of mine (and there is one i don't quite get along with) made a malicious and false complaint about me, is there and should there be a record kept of it if a garda decides there's no case to answer?

Well when I tried to engage with the gardai recently about a dangerous close pass that I have video footage of I was told unless there is an action taken by a Garda then there is no record.

ED E

I had a lunatic who owns a business on my commute follow me through town screaming from his car. I didnt want to prosecute as he has a record and the business has been in hot water too. Kinda character you avoid.

Wanted it logged in Pulse in case there was any further incidents and I had to take it further. Very helpful young member in the local station explained it was proceed with a traffic case or drop it and nothing goes on Pulse.

Video stored safely if he ever acts up again. Probably should leave instructions if I ever end up as roadkill.

Ray Bloody Purchase

I saw a cyclist have a bit of a 'Falling Down' moment yesterday evening at Harolds Cross, and rightly so. I was coming out of town, but he was the far side of the bridge, approaching it from the Kimmage side in the right lane. It seems the motorist behind him took umbrage to his occupation of the lane and gave him a toot. The cyclist stopped dead in the road, held up the car and gave the motorist a right old ear bashing. Yer man in the car looked like he wanted the ground to open up and swallow him.

The Gardai have been at Harolds Cross the last two mornings pulling people using the bus lane. I saw a Garda pull a van this morning for using it. When he had the van pulled in two other cars whizzed by in the lane. People just don't give a flying fcuk (one of them was a learner).

I'm not sure if the people are getting tickets or not.

average_runner

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

I saw a cyclist have a bit of a 'Falling Down' moment yesterday evening at Harolds Cross, and rightly so. I was coming out of town, but he was the far side of the bridge, approaching it from the Kimmage side in the right lane. It seems the motorist behind him took umbrage to his occupation of the lane and gave him a toot. The cyclist stopped dead in the road, held up the car and gave the motorist a right old ear bashing. Yer man in the car looked like he wanted the ground to open up and swallow him.

The Gardai have been at Harolds Cross the last two mornings pulling people using the bus lane. I saw a Garda pull a van this morning for using it. When he had the van pulled in two other cars whizzed by in the lane. People just don't give a flying fcuk (one of them was a learner).

I'm not sure if the people are getting tickets or not.

I wish we had an automatic missile system that would target you if you broke a red light!!! Hence why I should never be the leader of this country!!

randomname2005

average_runner wrote: »

I wish we had an automatic missile system that would target you if you broke a red light!!! Hence why I should never be the leader of this country!!

No no no no no. That is too extreme. It should follow you until you stop, interrogate you as to why you broke the light (wouldn't want undercover cop cars following somebody or actually on real urgent activities getting blown up) and then go boom if you have no reason.

Fighting Tao

Spikes that raise from the ground when lights go red would be a softer but extreme enough measure.

hesker

Scary close pass at speed this morning. No reason for it. No reason for a punishment pass. Had a whole other side of the road to move into. Most likely on the phone. Didn’t get the reg. May have to go scouting later for it. He’s likely in one of the car parks nearby.

blackwhite

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

The Gardai have been at Harolds Cross the last two mornings pulling people using the bus lane. I saw a Garda pull a van this morning for using it. When he had the van pulled in two other cars whizzed by in the lane. People just don't give a flying fcuk (one of them was a learner).

I'm not sure if the people are getting tickets or not.

Answered by AGS yesterday evening


https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1118173326369804289

francois

blackwhite wrote: »

Answered by AGS yesterday evening

None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there

Rechuchote

francois wrote: »

None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there

The law is changing so that cameras that can automagically issue fines will soon be universal.

Seth Brundle

Rechuchote wrote: »

The law is changing so that cameras that can automagically issue fines will soon be universal.

Universal?
How much is the budget for this?

magicbastarder

francois wrote: »

None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there

i guess it's a case of making people worry that there will be gardai there, rather than actually having gardai there, so you wouldn't need them every morning.

mr spuckler

magicbastarder wrote: »

i guess it's a case of making people worry that there will be gardai there, rather than actually having gardai there, so you wouldn't need them every morning.

a bit like the fixed speed camera at the Spa Hotel near Lucan. had the fear of God in people for years but thew camera was very rarely in operation.

out of interest, where have all of those fixed cameras gone?

blackwhite

mr spuckler wrote: »

a bit like the fixed speed camera at the Spa Hotel near Lucan. had the fear of God in people for years but thew camera was very rarely in operation.

out of interest, where have all of those fixed cameras gone?

Lifted during road widening works, and never replaced AFAIK


The red light camera at Con Colbert Rd - Sth Circular Road junction is still there, but I don't think it's been operational for a long time

Hurrache

Last time I checked the shell of the one on the old N2 before Ashbourne was still there too, albeit taken over by nature. On the M50 the lines until relatively recently were still there for the one just before the airport northbound, and around Dundrum northbound. The lines are either gone now, or I just don't notice them anymore at this stage. As far as I know there were never actual cameras in place at either of those locations.

Fighting Tao

The one at Dunleer on the M1 was removed due to cost. Someone had to go out and change the roll of film and it didn't take many photos to fill the roll. It was installed before roadside cameras became digital.

mr spuckler

so it appears that they've basically given up on them! I can't remember the last time I heard of one being operational. fish in a barrel eh.

BoardsMember

It's just priceless the inpetitude with which we solve for things. It would be funny if it was not a road safety issue.

Lambay island

francois wrote: »

None there at 8.30 this morning, I counted 5-yes 5-cars running a red light there

Yes no cops this morn. I actually saw a car go into bus lane between the gap in the bollards( area to let bus out) right in front of me, no indicator of course either. They gained minus ground and put me at risk

magicbastarder

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/almost-5-000-drivers-caught-using-phone-in-first-two-months-of-2019-1.3863368

nearly 100 a day? colour me gobsmacked. i've never seen nor heard of anyone getting caught.

jjpep

magicbastarder wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/almost-5-000-drivers-caught-using-phone-in-first-two-months-of-2019-1.3863368

nearly 100 a day? colour me gobsmacked. i've never seen nor heard of anyone getting caught.

You'd wonder is it the same number generator that the guards used for drink driving detections?

blackwhite

magicbastarder wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/almost-5-000-drivers-caught-using-phone-in-first-two-months-of-2019-1.3863368

nearly 100 a day? colour me gobsmacked. i've never seen nor heard of anyone getting caught.

I've seen people pulled on Merrion Rd a few times.

There's usually a garda on patrol around the British Embassy - at times when they're particularly bored I have seen them pull drivers out of the line of traffic for what I can only assume was seeing them on the phone. Notebook has been out times when I've passed them pulled over as well, so looks like tickets would have been issued

Eamonnator

Fighting Tao wrote: »

The one at Dunleer on the M1 was removed due to cost. Someone had to go out and change the roll of film and it didn't take many photos to fill the roll. It was installed before roadside cameras became digital.

The cameras at Kilineer and Gormanston on the old N1 were the same type, no longer operational.
Cost wasn't really an issue. a garda from the Traffic Corps was detailed to look after them as part of his normal duties.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Eamonnator wrote: »

The cameras at Kilineer and Gormanston on the old N1 were the same type, no longer operational.
Cost wasn't really an issue. a garda from the Traffic Corps was detailed to look after them as part of his normal duties.

Were they rotating them around from location to location years ago?

Eamonnator

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Were they rotating them around from location to location years ago?

Yes, there were more locations and boxes than there were cameras.
And taking the one at Dunleer on the M1 as an example, if you set it to capture speeds of say 133kph in 120kph zone, the film would be used up in very short order.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Eamonnator wrote: »

Yes, there were more locations and boxes than there were cameras.
And taking the one at Dunleer on the M1 as an example, if you set it to capture speeds of say 133kph in 120kph zone, the film would be used up in very short order,

The whole idea of using film seems rather quaint and that was only a couple of years ago!

I think there used to be one on the M4/N4 between Lucan and the turn off for Sallins.

magicbastarder

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

The whole idea of using film seems rather quaint and that was only a couple of years ago!

at least you got arty shots of the speeders, and no need for an instagram filter in court.

Hurrache

Hurrache wrote: »

The lines are either gone now, or I just don't notice them anymore at this stage. As far as I know there were never actual cameras in place at either of those locations.

This evening I was made aware the lines are still there before the Firehouse exit northbound when the car infront braked for no apparent reason.

buffalo

Cycling to the train station this morning, I was overtaken with a wide berth by a guy in a black Audi, yellow reg. Very nice, I thought, thank you. Driver stopped at the T-junction ahead, right indicator on, going same direction as myself.

I'll just move up on his left, there's plenty of space - I don't want to block his view out the passenger side, but want to be ready to follow. Then the passenger door swings open in the middle of the road as someone hops out. I'm already slowing to a stop, so no harm, but passenger pretends I'm not there as she avoids eye contact.

Car then stays stopped in the middle of the junction so the driver can make sure the passenger crosses to the top of the T okay, leaving me to awkwardly make my way past the car and across the front where I pray he doesn't decide that now is the right moment to start driving again.

There was an ambulance just inside the car park of Super Valu Killester this morning with a bike leaning against it, hopefully all ok.