Too poor to buy sanitary towels

hungry hypno toad

Widdershins wrote: »

What you fail to understand is they are likely unable to say how they'll survive, financially, for the next five months, nevermind five year plans. People who can't afford sanitary products are not in a position to be setting targets for themselves and their ideal lifestyle.

Maybe they should cut out the smokes and drink for a few weeks.

steddyeddy

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Maybe they should cut out the smokes and drink for a few weeks.

Well option B would be to examine why claims that people are poor make you angry. Do you get paid enough?

Hellywelly

I grew up in the 1980's in chronic poverty and remember the St Vincent de Paul and our brilliant GP supplying bulk sanitary products for me and my sister. It makes me so sad to think that there are still girls out there in 'civilized' countries without this basic need being met 30 years on.

hungry hypno toad

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well option B would be to examine why claims that people are poor make you angry. Do you get paid enough?

Yes, I have a well paid job, many would say very well paid. I pay thousands in direct payroll taxes every month. I object to people claiming that social welfare rates are too low, they are usually the people that wouldn't be affected by an increase in the higher rate of income tax required to pay for social welfare increases. Not to mention those with a class obsessed poverty porn agenda.

steddyeddy

Hellywelly wrote: »

I grew up in the 1980's in chronic poverty and remember the St Vincent de Paul and our brilliant GP supplying bulk sanitary products for me and my sister. It makes me so sad to think that there are still girls out there in 'civilized' countries without this basic need being met 30 years on.

I was in poverty during my teenage years. I'm a man so was lucky enough not to have to worry about sanitary products, but I always remember the embarrasment of not being able to afford new clothes. I didn't drink or smoke at the time. Idiots who believe this make poverty worse.

eviltwin

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Yes, I have a well paid job, many would say very well paid. I pay thousands in direct payroll taxes every month. I object to people claiming that social welfare rates are too low, they are usually the people that wouldn't be affected by an increase in the higher rate of income tax required to pay for social welfare increases. Not to mention those with a class obsessed poverty porn agenda.

You are in a fortunate position then. Even harder to understand your attitude towards young girls in this position through no fault of their own.

steddyeddy

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Yes, I have a well paid job, many would say very well paid. I pay thousands in direct payroll taxes every month. I object to people claiming that social welfare rates are too low, they are usually the people that wouldn't be affected by an increase in the higher rate of income tax required to pay for social welfare increases. Not to mention those with a class obsessed poverty porn agenda.

Well I'm well paid and I don't obsess over welfare. How about work harder and stop moaning up rises in income taxes. You could even give up drink and smokes!

hungry hypno toad

eviltwin wrote: »

You are in a fortunate position then. Even harder to understand your attitude towards young girls in this position through no fault of their own.

The issue is that it is the fault of their parents. NOT society or the welfare state.

steddyeddy

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

The issue is that it is the family of their parents. NOT society or the welfare state.

That's a pretty sick view.

hungry hypno toad

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well I'm well paid and I don't obsess over welfare. How about work harder and stop moaning up rises in income taxes. You could even give up drink and smokes!

No but you do obsess over 'class' and poverty porn. I have never smoked, filthy habit. I gave up drinking in my mid twenties. I have no problem with others smoking and drinking as long as it isn't affecting their childrens standard of living or paid for by the state.

Electric Sheep

steddyeddy wrote: »

I was in poverty during my teenage years. I'm a man so was lucky enough not to have to worry about sanitary products, but I always remember the embarrasment of not being able to afford new clothes. I didn't drink or smoke at the time. Idiots who believe this make poverty worse.

Indeed. I remember hating to ask my mother for sanitary products, as I knew money was very tight. My mother was definitely not spending money on booze and fags.

When they are on sale, I buy sanitary products and donate them to my local food bank, same with toothpaste and stuff like that.

eviltwin

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

The issue is that it is the family of their parents. NOT society or the welfare state.

The girls have no control over the money. This is not something they can fix on their own. A few pads cost peanuts. Would you really deprive these girls of their education a few days every month because of your principles?

Btw most of the posters here work, we work hard, we pay our taxes, do our best. You're no different to the rest of us.

hungry hypno toad

steddyeddy wrote: »

That's a pretty sick view.

Because I think parents should put their own kids well being before smokes and drink? You have got to be kidding.

steddyeddy

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Indeed. I remember hating to ask my mother for sanitary products, as I knew money was very tight. My mother was definitely not spending money on booze and fags.

When they are on sale, I buy sanitary products and donate them to my local food bank, same with toothpaste and stuff like that.

It broke my heart to ask my mother for money. A lot of people didn't have money at the time. My mother never drank or smoked either and worked herself very hard to raise us. Tough times but she helped me through uni. I imagine not being able to buy sanitary products is a big source of stress.

hungry hypno toad

eviltwin wrote: »

The girls have no control over the money. This is not something they can fix on their own. A few pads cost peanuts. Would you really deprive these girls of their education a few days every month because of your principles?

Btw most of the posters here work, we work hard, we pay our taxes, do our best. You're no different to the rest of us.

The problem is the parents. Why can you not see that?

steddyeddy

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

The problem is the parents. Why can you not see that?

The lady is saying the girls have no control over their parents income or economic behaviour. It's not a hard concept to understand.

Permabear

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steddyeddy

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Because I think parents should put their own kids well being before smokes and drink? You have got to be kidding.

You also seem to think it's not the states role to protect neglected children.

eviltwin

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

The problem is the parents. Why can you not see that?

I agree with you. The problem is the parents but I don't believe their daughter should miss out on an education because of it. The biggest exit out of welfare is through education. Why are you so reluctant to support helping these girls achieve that?

hungry hypno toad

steddyeddy wrote: »

The lady is saying the girls have no control over their parents income or economic behaviour. It's not a hard concept to understand.

So the parents need to be educated, thought you were a big fan of eduction.

Widdershins

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Maybe they should cut out the smokes and drink for a few weeks.

Maybe life's not that black and white and not all poor people are like that.

eviltwin

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

So the parents need to be educated, thought you were a big fan of eduction.

And what about the child at the centre of this in the meantime?

hungry hypno toad

steddyeddy wrote: »

You also seem to think it's not the states role to protect neglected children.

If you read my earlier posts you would see that I said the children should be removed from the parents if they are are not willing or able to raise them - either by denying them access to sanitary products or allowing them to mitch from school because of this.

steddyeddy

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

So the parents need to be educated, thought you were a big fan of eduction.

I am. Exactly why it hurts to read your posts.

Widdershins

Permabear wrote: »

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I'm sure they would be delighted to have some basic opportunities or capital with which to get started on the right track but some people don't have that. With all the will in the world you can't make something out of nothing.

eviltwin

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

If you read my earlier posts you would see that I said the children should be removed from the parents if they are are not willing or able to raise them - either by denying them access to sanitary products or allowing them to mitch from school because of this.

The cost of that would far exceed the price of a few pads ffs

Wompa1

"If they are called sanitary towels then how unsanitary must regular towels be?"

hungry hypno toad

eviltwin wrote: »

And what about the child at the centre of this in the meantime?

The headmaster presumably has access to petty cash, she could use that and contact the parents to explain the issue and if the parents don't step up to the plate then involve social services.

hungry hypno toad

eviltwin wrote: »

The cost of that would far exceed the price of a few pads ffs

And I answered that many posts ago. FFS is right.

hungry hypno toad

steddyeddy wrote: »

I am. Exactly why it hurts to read your posts.

You seem determined to blame everyone but the parents. Why is that?