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US may attack North Korea first

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    #32
    hungry hypno toad
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    jacksie66 wrote: »
    America. Telling the world what they can and can't do for generations.

    Yet we have the 'liberals' complaining that the US will be more isolationist under Trump with foreign aid cut backs and less UN involvement. Really can't win with some people.


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    #33
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    super_furry wrote: »
    I'd put money on Trump invading a country on a major scale before the next election. It's the only thing that could get him re-elected.
    He could take a leaf out of Clinton's book and blow up an aspirin factory.


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    #34
    archer22
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    looks like the US is playing North Korea at their own game. They have been taunting the west for years, videos of New York under nuclear attack, nuclear weapons testing, artillery strikes on a South Korean island, sinking of a sub, threatening destruction. What did they think would happen.

    None of those areas are "west" they are east and south of NK


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    #35
    hungry hypno toad
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    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Taking out Kim would be a minimum. After that, and I think you'd seem some very relieved and grateful cronies.

    Not sure about that, anyone currently in a position of power in NK would surely fear what the people would do to them if they lost power - expect thousands to be executed by the people, at a minimum. The same people who have lived in poverty, famine, fear for decades won't forget who enforced the dictators wishes.


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    #36
    daheff
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    Awesome


    Now to get CNN/SKY News in HD


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    #37
    archer22
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    hungry hypno toad wrote: »
    Not sure about that, anyone currently in a position of power in NK would surely fear what the people would do to them if they lost power - expect thousands to be executed by the people, at a minimum. The same people who have lived in poverty, famine, fear for decades won't forget who enforced the dictators wishes.

    Here we go again believing western propaganda...all the oppressed people waiting for whitey to bring his" freedom and democracy" :D
    Reality is rightly or wrongly they adore "beloved leader" and will fight like demons for him..if whitey is expecting flowers there he will get a rude reality check when bouquets turn out to be grenades.


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    #38
    Avatar MIA
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    hungry hypno toad wrote: »
    The same people who have lived in poverty, famine, fear for decades won't forget who enforced the dictators wishes.

    Nah, they are as likely to rise up post Kim as they are now. I'd fully expect totalitarian rule to continue, just less fear of the leaders being done away in a gruesome manner at the 'Whim of Kim'.


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    #39
    The_Valeyard
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    archer22 wrote: »
    None of those areas are "west" they are east and south of NK

    It's the general term for US and it's allies and you know it.


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    #40
    Eire Go Brach
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    Sure NK have every right to be ready and armed. USA are bullies. Invading who they like. NK have every right to defend themselves.


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    #41
    hungry hypno toad
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Here we go again believing western propaganda...all the oppressed people waiting for whitey to bring his" freedom and democracy" :D
    Reality is rightly or wrongly they adore "beloved leader" and will fight like demons for him..if whitey is expecting flowers there he will get a rude reality check when bouquets turn out to be grenades.

    Yeah, that explains the estimated 200,000 political prisoners. They probably loved the leader too much, right?


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    #42
    hungry hypno toad
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    Eire Go Brach wrote: »
    Sure NK have every right to be ready and armed. USA are bullies. Invading who they like. NK have every right to defend themselves.

    While they starve. Seems a fair trade off.


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    #43
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    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Seoul. NK can't flatten it, but a few hundred thousand artillery rounds would be possible.
    I was referring to the probability that NK would attack ALL it's enemies in retaliation of a US strike.


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    #44
    Gatling
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Do an internet search on North Korean military power and you will find out ;)

    Sure didn't Kim single handedly win the last FIFA world cup ,

    I'm sure he could beat america with one hand behind his back ,
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    #45
    cnocbui
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    Eire Go Brach wrote: »
    Sure NK have every right to be ready and armed. USA are bullies. Invading who they like. NK have every right to defend themselves.

    Ah, defending themselves, that must be why they launched those missiles aimed at Japan, because of the incessant Japanese aggression and threats these past few years.

    Pull the other one.


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    #46
    Fleawuss
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    Of course it would be a short conflict. Of course it wouldn't escalate. Of course they would all be home for Christmas. Those masters of military strategy and geopolitics Trump and Pence and Bannon have it planned and measured to a millimeter.

    The first declaration of war via Twitter.


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    #47
    david75
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    'He also defended the deployment of a US missile system in South Korea.'

    But the US would be fine if Mexico planted loads of missiles on their border..


    Riiiight


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    #48
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Here we go again believing western propaganda...all the oppressed people waiting for whitey to bring his" freedom and democracy" :D
    Reality is rightly or wrongly they adore "beloved leader" and will fight like demons for him..if whitey is expecting flowers there he will get a rude reality check when bouquets turn out to be grenades.
    The people of NK have only one source of information, their own government's version of the truth. Those people are educated to hate the rest of the world and yes, they'll fight.


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    #49
    hungry hypno toad
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    david75 wrote: »
    'He also defended the deployment of a US missile system in South Korea.'

    But the US would be fine if Mexico planted loads of missiles on their border..


    Riiiight

    Yeah, because the US repeatedly threatens to nuke Mexico. Pull the other one.


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    #50
    Mr. Incognito
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/steve-bannon-donald-trump-war-south-china-sea-no-doubt


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    #51
    hungry hypno toad
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    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Of course it would be a short conflict. Of course it wouldn't escalate. Of course they would all be home for Christmas. Those masters of military strategy and geopolitics Trump and Pence and Bannon have it planned and measured to a millimeter.

    The first declaration of war via Twitter.

    Twitter is probably banned in NK, although I'm sure Kim and his cronies have access.


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    #52
    cnocbui
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    david75 wrote: »
    'He also defended the deployment of a US missile system in South Korea.'

    But the US would be fine if Mexico planted loads of missiles on their border..


    Riiiight

    If Mexico said they were were for shooting down drug courier planes, they would probably offer to help pay for them.


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    #53
    archer22
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    hungry hypno toad wrote: »
    Yeah, that explains the estimated 200,000 political prisoners. They probably loved the leader too much, right?

    Over 2 million prisoners in America including the likes of Bradley Manning..guess they loved Freedom too much, right?


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    #54
    david75
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    hungry hypno toad wrote: »
    Yeah, because the US repeatedly threatens to nuke Mexico. Pull the other one.

    Planting a missile system on North Korea's border isn't a preventative measure. It's a provocative one.


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    #55
    hungry hypno toad
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Over 2 million prisoners in America including the likes of Bradley Manning..guess they loved Freedom too much, right?

    Did you miss the 'political prisoners' part?


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    #56
    hungry hypno toad
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    david75 wrote: »
    Planting a missile system on North Korea's border isn't a preventative measure. It's a provocative one.

    Missile defence system, but you know that. Still going with the Mexico analogy?


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    #57
    BuyersRemorse
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    Mr. Incognito wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/steve-bannon-donald-trump-war-south-china-sea-no-doubt

    US will wipe us all out eventually. Under the guise of 'peacekeeping' of course.


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    #58
    archer22
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    hungry hypno toad wrote: »
    Did you miss the 'political prisoners' part?

    Oops sorry I forgot Bradley Manning was in for handbag snatching..silly me!!


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    #59
    hungry hypno toad
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Oops sorry I forgot Bradley Manning was in for handbag snatching..silly me!!

    One down, 199,999 to go. And you would be hard pressed to claim he is a political prisoner - he admits breaking national security laws.


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    #60
    noodler
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Over 2 million prisoners in America including the likes of Bradley Manning..guess they loved Freedom too much, right?

    What's your game?


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    #61
    hungry hypno toad
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    noodler wrote: »
    What's your game?

    Probably trolling.


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