Ireland to play Test Cricket in 2018?

Mint Sauce

What time does play start today? Guerilla seems to be playing a repeat.

Skid X

11am start today

Looks like a lot of cloud cover, batting conditions might be trickier than yesterday.

I'd be happy to see Ireland force Pakistan to bat again. Anything else would be a bonus.

Mint Sauce

Skid X wrote: »

11am start today

Looks like a lot of cloud cover, batting conditions might be trickier than yesterday.

I'd be happy to see Ireland force Pakistan to bat again. Anything else would be a bonus.

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

dulpit

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

It's called a follow-on. If the team batting 2nd have a 'mare (like we did) and don't get close to the first team's score, they can be made to bat again. The idea is that it gives the first team a much better shout of winning, because the second team will be much less likely to be able to slow play for a draw...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow-on

Of note - only 3 teams have won a test match after being made follow-on...

Skid X

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

No, Pakistan will bat again if they need to.

They had they right to ask Ireland to bat next, because they were more than 150 runs ahead. (normally has to be more than 200, but it's 150 because there was no play on Day 1)

The reason a team chooses the follow on is normally to press their advantage and give them a better chance of bowling out the other side in the time remaining (and the time remaining is uncertain because there might be more rain)

BarryD2

Why, why, why???? It's as clear as day that we don't need to push the score so why on earth are they going for quick singles like a T20 or ODI?????? And losing Joyce.. self destruct stuff.

Mint Sauce

dulpit wrote: »

It's called a follow-on. If the team batting 2nd have a 'mare (like we did) and don't get close to the first team's score, they can be made to bat again. The idea is that it gives the first team a much better shout of winning, because the second team will be much less likely to be able to slow play for a draw...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow-on

Of note - only 3 teams have won a test match after being made follow-on...

Ah. I always thought the follow on basically meant, we are going to take a chance here, we think we are far enough ahead, and going to forefit our second innings, make you bat again, hoping both your innings, don't beat our one.

BarryD2

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I'm confused. Pakistan put Ireland back into bat, so I thought that meant they forfit their 2nd innings.

Follow on puts us under big pressure - to rescue a draw, we've basically got to bat as long as possible into tomorrow. In theory, we could knock off 300-400 runs and then bowl Pakistan out, but we don't have that luxury of talent or position to do this.

Derco

A pair for Balbirnie

minitrue

Joyce in the first innings, Balbirnie there and one of the Pakistanis, have to think all would have been saved by DRS (perhaps one or two more that might have been given). Don't think it's been a great Test by the Umpires (maybe not both, I can't remember for sure who gave and didn't give them all).

And what the heck is with the running this morning!

Royale with Cheese

Sounds like carnage out there, the last thing they need is stupid running.

BarryD2

minitrue wrote: »

And what the heck is with the running this morning!

Who knows? Surely the emphasis on keeping wickets must have been drummed in this morning? Is the short game format so ingrained that batsmen just behave instinctively to take quick (risky) singles?

minitrue

BarryD2 wrote: »

s the short game format so ingrained that batsmen just behave instinctively to take quick (risky) singles?

I don't think so, between County cricket, Interpros and ICup there's plenty of experience of this sort of cricket out there!

BarryD2

minitrue wrote: »

I don't think so, between County cricket, Interpros and ICup there's plenty of experience of this sort of cricket out there!

You'd think so but then why start off the morning like that? Looks like we've given up the ghost of a draw now and will just bat ODI style and see if at least, Pakistan can be put in again?

Beasty

2nd century in the history of Irish test cricket

Alas both are "team" rather than individual efforts!

riffmongous

Still trailing by about 60 just to avoid an innings defeat, need a good partnership here

riffmongous

Stirling gone now for just 11

Beasty

145-5 - at least we have the "saviours" of the first innings, KOB and Wilson now in

Hopefully they will make Pakistan bat again - that will be a good enough achievement given the first innings. All the better if they can take it in to a final day

dulpit

I find it interesting that this thread is fairly quiet when compared to the match thread during WCQs. Is that a result of people being at the game? Or because test cricket is slower? Or there's less interest?

riffmongous

Wilson out now, come on we need to make them bat again

riffmongous

dulpit wrote: »

I find it interesting that this thread is fairly quiet when compared to the match thread during WCQs. Is that a result of people being at the game? Or because test cricket is slower? Or there's less interest?

Test cricket is slower and it doesn't lead to much momentum in the thread would be my guess. The more posts you have the more it stays on the front page and the more randomers you pick up from there, then if there are more posts people stay and keep posting.

dfx-

When you're batting from behind or saving a draw....the less news the better:)

179/6 now, no innings defeat which is not to be sniffed for a new side at 7/3 in the first innings.

KevIRL

dulpit wrote: »

I find it interesting that this thread is fairly quiet when compared to the match thread during WCQs. Is that a result of people being at the game? Or because test cricket is slower? Or there's less interest?

I've been busy the last few days.

KevIRL

Ireland lead by 4 runs.

Blow it up ref

riffmongous

Anyone else hear the crowd there? Give me an 'I'.. Give me an 'R'... I was worried for a second about what letter was coming next :pac:

Skid X

50 for Kevin O'Brien, nice one.

KevIRL

50 up for KOB.

riffmongous

KOB looks great out there, watching him bat I think Ireland really does belong here

Doodah7

Great for KO'B. However with the new ball coming up next over, it will be interesting to see how long Ireland can hold out... Would have loved to have gone to Malahide today after having a great time on Saturday.

Mysterypunter

Great stuff from Kevin O'Brien. Fighting hard