Is it time to stop eating meat?

TeddyTedson

First off I will admit that I absolutely love and adore the taste of meat.
There is no better feeling than waking up with a hangover on a Sunday morning and being treated to a plate packed with sausages and bacon by your significant other.

However, having so many farmed animals on the planet is a major factor in terms of climate change. People feel so passionately about protecting the planet and there is directive of being green in terms of many aspects of industry. This is people driven. I'm just wondering if we a species will eventually come to the conclusion that in order to survive we will need to all change our diets?

I'm intrigued to find out how other people feel about it. I personally feel like I am addicted to meat and cannot imagine myself being able to quit. Would we start to see sausages start appearing on the black market if we were to ban eating meat similar to crystal meth and ketamine?

XsApollo

I'm off to Supermacs for a snack box.

Rented Mule

NO!!

OldMrBrennan83

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Burial.

Na, I'd rather not become a miserable twat who has to tell every person they meet they don't consume animal products.

Dr Crayfish

Drastically reducing red meat consumption would be a move in the right direction. You won't get much love for the suggestion here though.

Dr Crayfish

Burial. wrote: »

Na, I'd rather not become a miserable twat who has to tell every person they meet they don't consume animal products.

You're just repeating a tired cliché

joejoe87

I'm conflicted , I love the taste of certain meats but I'm very aware of animal welfare and the general effects on the planet. When the lab grown meat becomes affordable I'd switch completely to laboratory grown meat and I'd definitely be willing to pay more for it

Hande hoche!

Under that rationale, the future diet would consist of things such as Quorn, synthetic meat and solyent. Things like avocados, exotic salad and almonds would also cease to be grown. The aforementioned are terrible in terms of water usage.

Zaph

I'd start eating my own limbs before I'd resort to becoming a veggie.

Mr. FoggPatches

You can't win. You farm cattle until they're ready for the factory and you get sh*t about methane causing global warming but if you eradicate the methane production by producing veal, you're a monster

Parchment

It was time a long time ago. People dont care though because "MEAT IS SO YUMMY".

B.A._Baracus

For every person who goes "green".... There are 1000 people who don't care.














I am one of those 1000 :pac:

Mr. FoggPatches

Cattle, chickens and sheep would probably be extinct now if we didn't farm then.

No nay never

KungPao

Time to stop eating so much of it, at least. Our consumption of it is crazy these days.

Dr Crayfish

Forget about giving up meat completely. How about halving what you eat? We eat way too much of it. Most of it processed, which contributes greatly to colo-rectal and bowel cancers. Why not?
This whole "LOL no way bacon tastes too yummy " is just ignorance at the highest level. Your kids will suffer the way things are going, we have no idea what their kids are in for. We consume way too much meat and meat production has a negative impact on the planet. Why would you not want to do your bit?

Another thing - why can't we just let our seas replenish for a few years? Subsidise fishermen, or do whatever we have to do to keep them happy, and just let our stocks grow again. Why is everyone so short sighted?

Mr. FoggPatches

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Forget about giving up meat completely. How about halving what you eat? We eat way too much of it. Most of it processed, which contributes greatly to colo-rectal and bowel cancers. Why not?
This whole "LOL no way bacon tastes too yummy " is just ignorance at the highest level. Your kids will suffer the way things are going, we have no idea what their kids are in for. We consume way too much meat and meat production has a negative impact on the planet. Why would you not want to do your bit?

Another thing - why can't we just let our seas replenish for a few years? Subsidise fishermen, or do whatever we have to do to keep them happy, and just let our stocks grow again. Why is everyone so short sighted?

No meat, no fish? What's left?

joejoe87

Simpsons "don't forget! If the cow could he'd kill you and everyone you care about."

KungPao

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

No meat, no fish? What's left?

Lentils. Lentils for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Dr Crayfish

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

No meat, no fish? What's left?

Just cut down. Did my parents eat meat 3 or 4 times a day? No. They ate way less of everything than us. Take a look at family photos from the 60s or 70s. No fat people. Just healthy looking slim folk. We're heading in the wrong direction.

-=al=-

A serious answer in After hours? Surely not!

Well maybe...

I've just cut down a lot and embraced a lot of vegetarian/vegan food along with a better diet. Less moo cow milk and more alternative milks. The same with spreads and other things. Plenty of alternatives widely available now that are better for you, the animals and the environment!

I still enjoy the odd beef burger once in a while but maybe only a few times a year at this rate... and if I really had to give them up, I'd probably be just fine.

When it comes to eating meat it's usually salmon and chicken + the odd sneaky rasher or sausage once in a while. Grilled salmon can be just as good as bacon and veggie sausages can be just as nice as the real thing. Quorn bacon isn't really the same but it does the job.

Processed meats are just so bad that the veggie alternatives are even nicer tbh.

I've eaten all sorts of the usual meats and some strange ones like kangaroo, crocodile, snake, ostrich, puffin, whale, shark, horse, and who knows what dodgy foods I was given in Asia, but on a daily and weekly basis I've totally cut down on the old meat consumption.

It's important to try new things and small changes can lead to big ones and all that jazz

elperello

Just try cutting down to one portion of meat a day and see how you get on.
If that works out for you then try a meat free day once a week.
After a while you could try a second day and if that suits you then you are down to five portions a week which is not bad.

Peregrine

You don't win friends with salad!

But, no, seriously, it's vital that we reduce consumption. The current levels are just not sustainable. Most people would rather cover their ears than have to hear that though.

theteal

I never thought I'd say it but I started to cut back in the last year. This could well have coincided with my discovery of the mighty falafel (savage yokes!). Also I'd like the planet to be in some sort of fit state for the baby to grow up in.

Dr Crayfish

theteal wrote: »

I never thought I'd say it but I started to cut back in the last year. This could well have coincided with my discovery of the mighty falafel (savage yokes!). Also I'd like the planet to be in some sort of fit state for the baby to grow up in.

Good man. That's exactly what I like to hear. I'm not a veggie, but I rarely eat beef or lamb or pork (no pun intended) and I'm trying to cut down on the rest.
Apparently factory chicken is the greenest meat you can eat.

OldMrBrennan83

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DoozerT6

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Apparently factory chicken is the greenest meat you can eat.

Do mean the most environmentally friendly?

Dr Crayfish

DoozerT6 wrote: »

Do mean the most environmentally friendly?

Yeah well I mean it has the least negative environmental impact. It's still a really horrendous practice

DoozerT6

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Yeah well I mean it has the least negative environmental impact. It's still a really horrendous practice

It sure is

Dr Crayfish

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

For every person who goes "green".... There are 1000 people who don't care.


I am one of those 1000 :pac:

God you're so hilarious
No but really that kind of makes you a bit of an assh*le.

Todd Gack

TeddyTedson wrote: »

There is no better feeling than waking up with a hangover on a Sunday morning

I think there is

Peregrine

Patww79 wrote: »

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I don't know if you're joking or if you just don't get what the problem is..

Shenshen

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

No meat, no fish? What's left?

So if you half your consumption, you end up eating none at all?

That's not how math works!

Buford T. Justice XIX

TeddyTedson wrote: »

First off I will admit that I absolutely love and adore the taste of meat.
There is no better feeling than waking up with a hangover on a Sunday morning and being treated to a plate packed with sausages and bacon by your significant other.

However, having so many farmed animals on the planet is a major factor in terms of climate change. People feel so passionately about protecting the planet and there is directive of being green in terms of many aspects of industry. This is people driven. I'm just wondering if we a species will eventually come to the conclusion that in order to survive we will need to all change our diets?

I'm intrigued to find out how other people feel about it. I personally feel like I am addicted to meat and cannot imagine myself being able to quit. Would we start to see sausages start appearing on the black market if we were to ban eating meat similar to crystal meth and ketamine?

An alternative view on the animal debate.

http://www.afia.org/rc_files/801/livestocks_contribution_to_climate_change_facts_and_fiction.pdf

The graphic showing the source of greenhouse gasses is interesting, to say the least.

And another view on the whole direction that some would wish food production to go...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438548/michael-pollans-omnivores-dilemma-tenth-anniversary-edition-marks-decade-anti-science?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=579f5d9d04d30137b15b30bf&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Lady Haywire

Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »

You can't win. You farm cattle until they're ready for the factory and you get sh*t about methane causing global warming but if you eradicate the methane production by producing veal, you're a monster

Veal calves appear out of thin air? Who knew! :rolleyes:

OldMrBrennan83

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Dr Crayfish

Patww79 wrote: »

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You might as well just go and empty your rubbish all over the countryside then, who cares right?

OldMrBrennan83

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ancapailldorcha

No. It's about time we stopped animals for it though when we can grow it in labs.

goat2

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Good man. That's exactly what I like to hear. I'm not a veggie, but I rarely eat beef or lamb or pork (no pun intended) and I'm trying to cut down on the rest.
Apparently factory chicken is the greenest meat you can eat.

I have completely cut down on meat, some days I eat none, I do not eat pork or Lamb, mutton,
When I have a burger, it is home made, half is meat, the rest is porridge, chia seeds and quinoa, I dont even notice the difference, and I do not tell those I live with what is in their burger, they know it has mixed herbs, onions, but they do not notice the difference, and do not know they are having a healthier meal, I also do it with spag bolognaise, and shephards pie, no one notices

goat2

TeddyTedson wrote: »

First off I will admit that I absolutely love and adore the taste of meat.
There is no better feeling than waking up with a hangover on a Sunday morning and being treated to a plate packed with sausages and bacon by your significant other.

However, having so many farmed animals on the planet is a major factor in terms of climate change. People feel so passionately about protecting the planet and there is directive of being green in terms of many aspects of industry. This is people driven. I'm just wondering if we a species will eventually come to the conclusion that in order to survive we will need to all change our diets?

I'm intrigued to find out how other people feel about it. I personally feel like I am addicted to meat and cannot imagine myself being able to quit. Would we start to see sausages start appearing on the black market if we were to ban eating meat similar to crystal meth and ketamine?

There was a programme on tv some time ago, it show how sausages are made and the ingredients, it was frightning, so unhealthy, not good,
Yet we all love them, why they cannot be made with half pork and rest of the ingredients of healthy origin baffles me,

OldMrBrennan83

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Jack the Stripper

Can't be any more difficult in giving up smoking, I'll try it.

The_Valeyard

No, I wont be changing my habits, thanks.

Dr Crayfish

Patww79 wrote: »

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Yeah he's being really forceful isn't he, Jesus!

goat2

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I am not shoving it on anyone, each to our own, but for me personally, i find it hard to eat a lot of meat, did one time, but as I get older my stomach finds it harder to tolerate it, red meat and cheese take longer to break down than any other foods I consume, My own health only,

OldMrBrennan83

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freshpopcorn

Good to Mary Robinson is using her Boards account!

...And Justice

I have family that are "extremist vegans" and it's fcuking embarrassing tbh. We went out for pints before Christmas and at the end of the night , we all decided to go for chipper across the road. I ordered my food, so did the wife, the niece proceeded to ask for garlic mushrooms, which is fine she doesn't eat meat. What happened was embarrassing.

"can you change the oil?, I know you've cooked southern fried chicken and fish in that, CHANGE THE OIL NOW OR I WILL NOT BE BUYING YOUR SHÍTE, YOU MAKE ME SICK........ BUTCHERS THE LOT OF YOU, EVERYONE IN HERE.....! WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE EATEN?..............HUH.......HUHHHHHHHHHH?


I fcuked off and left her there, Muppet.

RobertKK

There are three choices:

1. Keep things the way they are.
2. Reduce meat consumption and then exterminate the excess animals.
3. Commit mass genocide so there is less people to eat meat.