2017 Free Agency/Off Season

HigginsJ

I see the Browns have tied down Jamie Collins long term with a 4 year $50 million contract ($26 million guaranteed). It really was a deal the Browns had to get done after trading for him so a good bit of business for them. The Browns are currently projected to have over $100 million in cap space this year. You can imagine that tieing down Terelle Pryor will be next up on their to do list.

The Giants really only have 2 players of note hitting free agency but it is one hell of a pair, Jonathan Hankins and JPP are currently set for free agency.

JPP has already came out and said that he has proved himself and wants to be paid, no more 1 year deals. With our large investment in Jenkins, Snacks & Vernon last year I feel that we won't be able to offer him top dollar & honestly I wouldn't want to. JPP is very good but not the beast he once was. I think he will be playing elsewhere next year.

Big Hank is able to get a lot of pressure up the middle on the QB for a man his size, if we could tie him down next to Snacks for the next few years our D would have a great base. Considering the power of the O-Line in Dallas it must be a priority, one way or another I think he will be with Big Blue next year.

I don't think the Giants will be big players in free agency this year, we don't really have the cap space and after last years splurge and successful draft I think we continue to build through the draft. Also our Achilles's heel (the O-line) is offering little in free agency.

JaMarcusHustle

HigginsJ wrote:

I see the Browns have tied down Jamie Collins long term with a 4 year $50 million contract ($26 million guaranteed). It really was a deal the Browns had to get done after trading for him so a good bit of business for them. The Browns are currently projected to have over $100 million in cap space this year. You can imagine that tieing down Terelle Pryor will be next up on their to do list.

That's not a bad deal. Certainly not the Von Miller money that he was supposed to be looking for.

Leslie91

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

That's not a bad deal. Certainly not the Von Miller money that he was supposed to be looking for.

Yeah I thought the same... but u have to wonder why (apart from him being so replaceable for cheaper) Belicheat had him out the door so fast. I wonder might he down tools when the $26m hits his account.

The Charger's Melvin Ingram is the next big OLB FA..... will be very interesting to see what he can get on open market.

JaMarcusHustle

Very important player for the LA Chargers. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go to a bigger team to have a chance at the playoffs.

thomond2006

Alshon Jeffery is a free agent after playing under the franchise tag this year. He was suspended for 4 games for PEDs but he'll surely get big offers.

Leslie91

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Very important player for the LA Chargers. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go to a bigger team to have a chance at the playoffs.

You won't see too many Chargers fans sorry to see him go if he gets anywhere close to Von Miller offer... he is simply not worth it. Has some of the physical tools but cannot finish... misses so many sacks and tackles it is unreal.

Realt Dearg Sec

thomond2006 wrote: »

Alshon Jeffery is a free agent after playing under the franchise tag this year. He was suspended for 4 games for PEDs but he'll surely get big offers.

Bears FO seem intent on keeping him around if their EOS press conference is any indication. With Kevin White being anything but a sure thing, they probably feel they need to hold onto what talent they have here. Cap wise we can afford it but depending on Jeffery's demands (which are rumoured to be that he wants to be paid top 10 money) I dunno if we can do it. He's not worth top 10 money (certainly with his record of games missed, and his lack of production this past year even while on the field), but somebody might give it to him.

My feeling is that if we get in a new QB, which seems almost certain, they will want to keep him as a reliable target for the new guy. If we are rolling with a backup, particularly Hoyer, there is no need to have Jeffery because Hoyer just doesn't throw the ball to him.

the baby bull elephant

The Lions have a number of dilemmas coming up in free agency.

Firstly I'd hope we return Boldin but not on an amount exceeding his hit this year. Rafael Bush and Josh Bynes are similar stories solid players that are starters but especially with Bynes I'd be hoping we upgrade at their position in the draft. Bush had some impressive plays but I'd be able to live with Wilson and already fan favourite Killebrew.

The really big problem however will come on the offensive line. Both Warford and Reiff are both starters and just coming off their rookie contracts. Unfortunately the odds of keeping them both are exceedingly low. Warford had an excellent rookie season before regressing but is till a competent starter. He does seem to not quite be a fit for the Lions blocking scheme and could demand a fair sum in free agency. He's not someone I'd break the bank for and hope that Tomlinson moving across to his natural RG position would allow him to at least in some way live up to his first round billing. Reiff meanwhile is someone I really do want us to re-sign and I don't mind slightly overspending for. This is a young line that is finally coming together removing 2/5 of it would be a bad idea. There's also no one on the Lions to replace him and this will apparently be a weak draft for tackles. The one problem may be that Reiff will not play LT for the Lions with Decker seeming to be the LT of the future here. Reiff has 4 years as a starter at LT in the league so may look for free agent LT money. Which would be too much. Mid range LT money would be the absolute ceiling I would go for him.

mikemac2

Baltimore Ravens

Keep
Brandon Williams DT - The guy is a flat out beast. Ozzie Newsome hit gold with this 3rd round pick from Divison II Missouri Southern. He's a class act with zero character concerns and a leader on defence. Doesn't have flashy stats and I don't think has much league wide recognition with fans but Ravens fans know his worth. I'd pay top 10 DT money but I think he'll want to test the market and leave. DT franchise tag money is a shade under 11 million and that's unlikely but possible

Ricky Wagner RT
I don't know much about college football but I know Wisconsin produce good lineman. This 5th round pick made the RT spot his own and has done very well. I think he'll test the market and the Ravens tend to let offensive linemen walk with the exception of Marshal Yanda. I'd like him to stay but don't believe it will happen.

Anthony Levine FS
Has started at corner and free safety for injury cover but mostly plays special teams. Very competent at this and I hope to keep for a 2 year deal a bit over minimum

Let test the market and maybe try to match

Kyle Juszcyk FB - How do you know an NFL player went to Harvard? The commentator will want to drone on about it every single game!! Juice is a modern kind of fullback, can block of course but more used for check downs too. A popular member of the team I think he will look at offers and get a matching offer from Baltimore

Lawrence Guy DE. I don't remember him at the Chargers, he joined Baltimore and quietly worked his way to be starter. Only 26 and it's a premium position. I think he won't be back and will get his payday

Release to FA
Ryan Mallett QB - first things first was a model pro and yes, he never slept though practice After his winning start over Pittsburgh there was talk of shopping for picks but it never happened. I'd release to FA, I hope we draft a QB late and Mallet might be around later this offseason

Vlad Ducasse G
I'm not the best at grading linesmen. Some say he was a turnstile, some say competent. The Ravens have some young guards and I would prefer they get a bump up the depth chart.

Kamar Aiken WR - Became the Ravens no 1 through injuries in 2015 and did well but in 2016 was pretty much a no 4. He deserves better elsewhere

Jerraud Powers CB - big reputation from Arizona, never delivered

Drive to the airport!!
Matt Elam SS - called out Calvin Johnson as old and washed up when he was a rookie, dumbass. Did nothing for years through injury and incompetence. First round BUST

HigginsJ

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687501-nfl-free-agency-2017-breaking-down-each-teams-cap-situation

Bleacher Report have broken down the available cap space teams have. The top 3 with most space are the Browns ($100 million), Bucaneers ($84 million) and the 49ers ($83 million, although they can free up another $14 releasing Kaep)

Those in the worst positions are the Chiefs ($3.2 million, Dontari Poe & Eric Berry are impending free agents) Cowboys (negative $5 million, trading Romo clears $24 millions, releasing him clears $5 millions) and finally the J.E.T.S (negative $6 million, The team could release high-profile names such as Brandon Marshall, Darrelle Revis, David Harris and Ryan Clady. By releasing those four, the Jets will save $33.533 million against the cap)

The cap is expected to be $168 million.

Knex*

Buccs with 84m. That's insane for a team that already has a decent base about it, and a young franchise QB. a decent FA and draft this year could see them push properly for the playoffs, and in two years time they should really be a force.

Be interesting to see how they fair.

HigginsJ

Knex. wrote: »

Buccs with 84m. That's insane for a team that already has a decent base about it, and a young franchise QB. a decent FA and draft this year could see them push properly for the playoffs, and in two years time they should really be a force.

Be interesting to see how they fair.

These rookie QB's are an absolute steal, if you can hit one you have 3-4 years to hit gold. The Pats also have an insane amount of cap space, the 5th most space on the list.

conor222

The numbers being thrown out on that article are not very realistic, they involve all current members on current deals to stay on at those current deals.

E.g. That Chiefs number includes them paying Nick Foales 10.7 million next year, whereas they can cut him for no dead money (as the team designed the contract to be drawn up).

Just from the Chiefs one as I know them the best,
Foales 10.7
Colquitt 4.1
Charles 6.1

Theres an additional 20 million in space already (net of dead money), not even considering moving around contracts, multiple smaller cuts etc.

Dont read too much into Cap coverage yet, we havent even hit the point where teams start publicly discussing out what they can spend this season.

HigginsJ

conor222 wrote: »

The numbers being thrown out on that article are not very realistic, they involve all current members on current deals to stay on at those current deals.

E.g. That Chiefs number includes them paying Nick Foales 10.7 million next year, whereas they can cut him for no dead money (as the team designed the contract to be drawn up).

Just from the Chiefs one as I know them the best,
Foales 10.7
Colquitt 4.1
Charles 6.1

Theres an additional 20 million in space already (net of dead money), not even considering moving around contracts, multiple smaller cuts etc.

Dont read too much into Cap coverage yet, we havent even hit the point where teams start publicly discussing out what they can spend this season.

Not at all familiar with the Chiefs so that is good to know, def no way Foles would be kept around on that sort of money, we are similar in that we have about $20 million but cutting Victor Cruz (which will happen) saves $7.5 million.

That being said it does give at least an indicator as to who has what available and is a good starting point. No matter how much wheeling and dealing the Chiefs or Giants do our cap space would be dwarfed by the Bucs, Pats, Browns etc.

HigginsJ

HigginsJ wrote: »

These rookie QB's are an absolute steal, if you can hit one you have 3-4 years to hit gold. The Pats also have an insane amount of cap space, the 5th most space on the list.

Unless like the eagles you are giving your backup starter money therefor negating any benifit

D9Male

At least they got shut of Bradford. I can completely see why the Vikings did the trade, but the Eagles were very fortunate that Teddy got hurt.

HigginsJ

Melany Unsightly Victory wrote: »

Unless like the eagles you are giving your backup starter money therefor negating any benifit

I didn't think Chase Daniel was on that much, thought it was a 3yr $21 million contract? $7 million, while high for a back-up, is well shy of even mid tier starter money.

Knex*

I hope Redskins pay over the top for Cousins. Not that I necessarily think that he's a bad QB, but I hate seeing them with so much cap space.

Realt Dearg Sec

Knex. wrote: »

I hope Redskins pay over the top for Cousins. Not that I necessarily think that he's a bad QB, but I hate seeing them with so much cap space.

I'm sure they will, there's going to be a huge market for his services, and unlike Garropolo (or McCarron), there's no necessity to give up draft picks to get them.

brinty

Knex. wrote:

I hope Redskins pay over the top for Cousins. Not that I necessarily think that he's a bad QB, but I hate seeing them with so much cap space.

I hear ye mate
Least the cowboys haven't cap room either says you
Was doing my sums and we'll not he cutting Romo before 1 June as its an extra 5m cap saving. The saving for cutting him now would still leaves neutral. By the 1 June mark they'll not be able to get any good free agency players so it'll be smart drafting for us again
We'll restructure a few things and that'll bring us within cap before the season.

Em what happens if players retire? What's the cap hit if any to the team??

JaMarcusHustle

For the Patriots, Dont'a Hightower is the main priority. And I think Bill has shown as much with letting Collins and Jones walk. Hightower has fit perfectly into the Bruschi/Mayo defensive leader mould, and we've never been shy about rewarding that position. We extended Mayo in 2011 by making him the second highest paid ILB in the league so I wouldn't be surprised to see Hightower sign a big 5 year deal. Worst case scenario, he gets franchised tagged but he won't be playing anywhere else next year.

Malcolm Butler is a restricted free agent after the season. I'd love him to stay, but I don't think it will necessarily be as straight forward as a new contract offered and signed. I can see us tendering him to a first round offer sheet. An original round tender won't happen given he was undrafted, and I think more teams will be put off making on offer on a first round tender which hopefully means we get another year out of him for between $3m and $4m. Anyone willing to make an offer on that will likely be paying him top 5 CB money if they're giving up that high a pick, so I can't see us matching any offers.

Jabaal Sheard is likely going to be let walk. He's been disappointing this year, and his snap count backs that up. He's only been on the field for 55% of snaps, which is disappointing considering he was there for 51% last year despite Chandler Jones ahead of him on the depth chart. I think we all thought he'd contribute a lot more given Jones' trade, but it just hasn't happened. His play has dropped and it's looked ominous since he was health scratch for the 49ers game.

Martellus Bennett loves it here, and I think we'd like him to stay given Gronk has missed 24 games in 5 years, excluding the playoffs. I just hope he doesn't ask for ludicrous money - he seems a bit happier here than he has on his other teams so hopefully that counts for something. I can unfortunately see someone else with cap money to burn offering him more than he warrants, and his own injury concerns might prevent us from offering too much.

Sebastian Vollmer won't be back. I wouldn't be surprised to see him retire tbh. He's been a great servant and one of our all-time value draft picks, but injuries have caught up with him. He's achieved a lot here so I wonder how much desire he has to remain in the league given a lot of his career goals will probably have been accomplished by now.

Michael Floyd won't be brought back either, unless there's zero interest elsewhere and we get him on a vet minimum. Even then it's doubtful. Being a healthy scratch as soon as Amendola and Mitchell were fit again is writing on the wall for me. I think picking him up was a kicking-the-tyres exercise while we were down a few players at that position.

Chris Long should be back. I often think of him as pushing 34/35 for some reason, he seems to have been around forever but he's only 31. He has plenty of miles left in the tank as this season has shown and is a great presence in the locker room by all accounts. I think it's in our interest to work out a team friendly deal with him for another year or two. It's not as if we're stacked at that position either. We've shown willingness before to keep veterans after their one-year deal if it works out.

Alan Branch has been a really good player for us. I'd like him back - he's in a similar boat to Chris Long in that I always think of him as being much older than 32. But I can see someone else making him an offer of more than we're willing to, and maybe of a longer duration than we'd like to.

Logan Ryan is a tricky one. I'd like him to stay but he's very inconsistent. He was really, really good last year and was then terrible to start this year. He's recovered somewhat and has put together a few good games, but again we've seen some average to above-average corner backs get obscene contracts the past couple of years and it wouldn't surprise me if someone blew us out of the water compared to what we were willing to offer him. Ultimately, I think he moves on to a bigger contract somewhere else. What he has in his favour is leverage giving how poor Eric Rowe and Cyrus Jones have been for us this year.

Brandon Bolden is a pretty much exclusively special teams now. We obviously like him, but up to this season he would feature as relief at running back at least - 62, 28, 55 and 56 carries from 2012 to 20125. He only had 1 carry this year. Matthew Slater already takes up one "special teams only" spot on the roster, I wonder if we can afford to carry Bolden in the same role. I doubt it.

LeGarrette Blount - well, we've been here before. On one hand, we've seen he has no problem taking the bigger offer elsewhere. On the other hand, teams have seen that it didn't work out well for Pittsburgh. Ultimately, Blount has been playing for close to vet minimum for a few years now, and after the best season of his career I won't blame him for taking one last big contract. Or if not big, at least the biggest one he gets offered which won't be from us I'm afraid.

Duron Harmon will have to be content with a backup role if he wants to stay. On one hand, we don't have much behind McCourty so it's a pretty safe role he has as backup. On the other hand, he may want to see if anyone is willing to try him as a starter. I don't know if he's shown enough for anyone to do that, so maybe someone can offer him more snaps at least. I'd like him to stay in his current role.

James Develin is one of the better full backs in the league. Another one I'd like to keep and being a full-back there may not be much clamour for him.

Barkevious Mingo - I've really no thoughts on. Special Teams only, he'll likely not be extended.

D9Male

These are great, thanks. I'll have a go at the Vikings tomorrow.

brinty

Fair plays lads
I'll do up a cowboys one too

D9Male

D9Male wrote: »

At least they got shut of Bradford. I can completely see why the Vikings did the trade, but the Eagles were very fortunate that Teddy got hurt.

One of the more fortunate trades in recent memory for any team Im not entirely sure the fact that Philly is hosting the draft this year didn't play a part

HigginsJ

HigginsJ wrote: »

I didn't think Chase Daniel was on that much, thought it was a 3yr $21 million contract? $7 million, while high for a back-up, is well shy of even mid tier starter money.

''Tis a lot for a guy that looked awful not to mention the fact that the eagles will likely have to restructure/cut some guys I'd rather they didn't in order to maintain cap flexability

TOss Sweep

For the Patriots, Agree on Dont'a Hightower I expect us to pay him and I feel we will get a deal done with out Franchising him.

Malcolm Butler is a restricted free agent after the season. This is where our Tag will I feel to get one more year out of him.

Jabaal Sheard became such a waste. Had huge hopes for him but I really would like to know the full story behind his season. I believe there is more to it but agree he will be let go

Martellus Bennett We win the Superbowl and he is definitely staying and I can see him take a performance based contract that give him close to what he wants but benefits both parties. With Gronk a year by year doubt to hard to let Bennett walk.

Sebastian Vollmer I see him as a 50/50 shot. I think it will come down to if he decides to leave will it be for more money or as JMH said retirement. I think we might see him stick around for at least one more season on a low vet contract.

Michael Floyd IF the price is right I would like to gamble on Floyd and bring him through camp at least and see can he give his full abilities. Im hoping we get a bargain basement deal done with him.

Chris Long I actually think Long should be on the high priority list. Not at the top of it but definitely look for a contract that suits both parties.

Alan Branch I agree JMH I would like a deal done with Branch. He was fantastic against Bell last week and all round solid all season long.

Logan Ryan The guy we love to hate. Such a frustrating player and there is times he is god awful and then times he is fantastic. Definitely a hot and cold player but as JMH said the guys around him will be the reason we might do a deal with him. Rowe and Jones were terrible. (Watch Rowe light it up in the bowl :pac:)


Brandon Bolden he has become another Slater. Happy to be part of the team and he is doing a good job. Cheap deal id say will be done here.

LeGarrette Blount - I just dont know with LGB. For me it will come down to money and what he expects. If he is smart he will look for a long contract that see his career out and pay him enough. But there will be other teams wanting to get him on board.

Duron Harmon His days in a Pats uniform will come down to wether or not we find his replacement in the Draft or FA. Then again our draft needs will come down to who we keep and dont keep

James Develin not a lot of teams use FB anymore so we should be able to keep him.

Barkevious Mingo - Same as JMH I hoped he would live p to something but these also have really no thoughts on him. Special Teams only, he'll likely not be extended.

Hazys

On Chris Long, he took a pay-cut ($1m base salary) to play with us this year because he wanted to be on a contender. If we win the Super Bowl, I think he's less likely to stay than if we lose, he could see it as he got his ring, now he can get one last pay day. On the flip side, he's now got the taste for success, no way he could go back to a losing franchise.

j8wk2feszrnpao

The Pats might prioritise Hightower, but I think it should be Butler.
He gets put on the oppositions No1 receiver and should have been a Pro Bowl selection.
Ryan is a No2 corner who often gives up plays; imaging him and Rowe as our 1&2, if we lost Butler, would be a return to the 3rd and long completions D that we had for years.

TOss Sweep

Adriel Broad Paw wrote: »

The Pats might prioritise Hightower, but I think it should be Butler.
He gets put on the oppositions No1 receiver and should have been a Pro Bowl selection.
Ryan is a No2 corner who often gives up plays; imaging him and Rowe as our 1&2, if we lost Butler, would be a return to the 3rd and long completions D that we had for years.

History tells us we wont pay Butler what he will probably want and tagging him might be the only way around it.

brinty

TOss Sweep wrote:

History tells us we wont pay Butler what he will probably want and tagging him might be the only way around it.

I'd take Butler to big d
Gets him out of the afc for Pats
Dunno if we could pay his worth but we need corners

TOss Sweep

Looking at the Free Agency the amount of quality with expiring contracts. Quite a Large Amount

Offensive

Quarterbacks
Matt Schaub, Atlanta Falcons
Ryan Mallett, Baltimore Ravens
EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
Brian Hoyer, Chicago Bears
Matt Barkley, Chicago Bears
Mark Sanchez, Dallas Cowboys
Kellen Moore, Dallas Cowboys
Dan Orlovsky, Detroit Lions
Case Keenum, Los Angeles Rams
T.J. Yates, Miami Dolphins
Shaun Hill, Minnesota Vikings
Josh Johnson, New York Giants
Ryan Nassib, New York Giants
Ryan Fitzpatrick, New York Jets
Geno Smith, New York Jets
Matt McGloin, Oakland Raiders
Landry Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers
Kellen Clemens, San Diego Chargers
Blaine Gabbert, San Francisco 49ers
Christian Ponder, San Francisco 49ers
Thad Lewis, San Francisco 49ers
Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Matt Cassel, Tennessee Titans
Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins

Running backs
Chris Johnson, Arizona Cardinals
Stepfan Taylor, Arizona Cardinals
Andre Ellington, Arizona Cardinals
Reggie Bush, Buffalo Bills
Cedric Peerman, Cincinnati Bengals
Rex Burkhead, Cincinnati Bengals
Darren McFadden, Dallas Cowboys
Lance Dunbar, Dallas Cowboys
Justin Forsett, Denver Broncos
Joique Bell, Detroit Lions
Eddie Lacy, Green Bay Packers
Christine Michael, Green Bay Packers
Jonathan Grimes, Houston Texans
Jordan Todman, Indianapolis Colts
Robert Turbin, Indianapolis Colts
Denard Robinson, Jacksonville Jaguars
Knile Davis, Kansas City Chiefs
Benny Cunningham, Los Angeles Rams
Chase Reynolds, Los Angeles Rams
Matt Asiata, Minnesota Vikings
Brandon Bolden, New England Patriots
LeGarrette Blount, New England Patriots
Tim Hightower, New Orleans Saints
Travaris Cadet, New Orleans Saints
Bobby Rainey, New York Giants
Latavius Murray, Oakland Raiders
DeAngelo Williams, Pittsburgh Steelers
Le'Veon Bell, Pittsburgh Steelers
Danny Woodhead, San Diego Chargers
Dexter McCluster, San Diego Chargers
Ronnie Hillman, San Diego Chargers
Shaun Draughn, San Francisco 49ers
DuJuan Harris, San Francisco 49ers
Jacquizz Rodgers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Antone Smith, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Fullbacks
Patrick DiMarco, Atlanta Falcons
Kyle Juszczyk, Baltimore Ravens
Jerome Felton, Buffalo Bills
Zach Line, Minnesota Vikings
James Develin, New England Patriots
John Kuhn, New Orleans Saints
Marcel Reece, Seattle Seahawks
Will Tukuafu, Seattle Seahawks

Wide receivers
Jeremy Ross, Arizona Cardinals
Eric Weems, Atlanta Falcons
Aldrick Robinson, Atlanta Falcons
Kamar Aiken, Baltimore Ravens
Percy Harvin, Buffalo Bills
Justin Hunter, Buffalo Bills
Robert Woods, Buffalo Bills
Ted Ginn Jr., Carolina Panthers
Brenton Bersin, Carolina Panthers
Alshon Jeffery, Chicago Bears
Deonte Thompson, Chicago Bears
Marquess Wilson, Chicago Bears
Brandon LaFell, Cincinnati Bengals
Terrelle Pryor, Cleveland Browns
Terrance Williams, Dallas Cowboys
Brice Butler, Dallas Cowboys
Jordan Norwood, Denver Broncos
Marlon Brown, Marlon Brown
Anquan Boldin, Detroit Lions
Andre Roberts, Detroit Lions
Bryan Walters, Jacksonville Jaguars
Arrelious Benn, Jacksonville Jaguars
Kenny Britt, Los Angeles Rams
Brian Quick, Los Angeles Rams
Stedman Bailey, Los Angeles Rams
Kenny Stills, Miami Dolphins
Cordarrelle Patterson, Minnesota Vikings
Michael Floyd, New England Patriots
Andre Holmes, Oakland Raiders
Michael Johnson, Philadelphia Ealges
Markus Wheaton, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jeremy Kerley, San Francisco 49ers
Rod Streater, San Francisco 49ers
Quinton Patton, San Francisco 49ers
Vincent Jackson,Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Russell Shepard, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cecil Shorts, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Kendall Wright, Tennessee Titans
Marc Mariani, Tennessee Titans
Pierre Garcon, Washington Redskins
DeSean Jackson, Washington Redskins

Tight ends
Jermaine Gresham, Arizona Cardinals
Jacob Tamme, Atlanta Falcons
Levine Toilolo, Atlanta Falcons
Logan Paulsen, Chicago Bears
Gavin Escobar, Dallas Cowboys
Clay Harbor, Detroit Lions
Matthew Mulligan, Detroit Lions
Timothy Wright, Detroit Lions
Jared Cook, Green Bay Packers
Ryan Griffin, Houston Texans
Jack Doyle, Indianapolis Colts
Jordan Cameron, Miami Dolphins
MarQueis Gray, Miami Dolphins
Dominique Jones, Miami Dolphins
Dion Sims, Miami Dolphins
Martellus Bennett, New England Patriots
John Phillips, New Orleans Saints
Larry Donnell, New York Giants
Kellen Davis, New York Jets
Mychal Rivera, Oakland Raiders
David Johnson, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jeff Cumberland, San Diego Chargers
Jim Dray, San Francisco 49ers
Brandon Williams, Seattle Seahawks
Luke Willson, Seattle Seahawks
Brandon Myers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Anthony Fasano, Tennessee Titans
Vernon Davis, Washington Redskins

Offensive tackles
Earl Watford, Arizona Cardinals
Ricky Wagner, Baltimore Ravens
Jordan Mills, Buffalo Bills
Mike Remmers, Carolina Panthers
Mike Adams, Chicago Bears
Nick Becton, Chicago Bears
Matt McCants, Chicago Bears
Andrew Whitworth, Cincinnati Bengals
Eric Winston, Cincinnati Bengals
Riley Reiff, Detroit Lions
Don Barclay, Green Bay Packers
David Quessenberry, Houston Texans
Jeffrey Linkenbach, Jacksonville Jaguars
Sam Young, Miami Dolphins
Matt Kalil, Minnesota Vikings
Jake Long, Minnesota Vikings
Andre Smith, Minnesota Vikings
Sebastian Vollmer, New England Patriots
Tony Hills, New Orleans Saints
Will Beatty, New York Giants
Marshall Newhouse, New York Giants
Ben Ijalana, New York Jets
Menelik Watson, Oakland Raiders
Bradley Sowell, Seattle Seahawks
Gosder Cherilus, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Byron Bell, Tennessee Titans

Guards
Evan Mathis, Arizona Cardinals
Chris Chester, Atlanta Falcons
Tom Compton, Atlanta Falcons
Vladimir Ducasse, Baltimore Ravens
Chris Scott, Carolina Panthers
Ted Larsen, Chicago Bears
Eric Kush, Chicago Bears
Kevin Zeitler, Cincinnati Bengals
Austin Pasztor, Cleveland Browns
Ronald Leary, Dallas Cowboys
Larry Warford, Detroit Lions
T.J. Lang, Green Bay Packers
Oday Aboushi, Houston Texans
Hugh Thornton, Indianapolis Colts
Luke Joeckel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Patrick Omameh, Jacksonville Jaguars
Jermon Bushrod, Miami Dolphins
Tim Lelito, New Orleans Saints
Jahri Evans, New Orleans Saints
Brian Winters, New York Jets
Andrew Gardner, San Francisco 49ers
Chance Warmack, Tennessee Titans


Centers
A.Q. Shipley, Arizona Cardinals
Ryan Wendell, Carolina Panthers
JC Tretter, Green Bay Packers
Mike Person, Kansas City Chiefs
Cody Wallace, Pittsburgh Steelers
Joe Hawley, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Brian Schwenke, Tennessee Titans
John Sullivan, Washington Redskins

TOss Sweep

Defensive and ST

Defensive Ends
Calais Campbell, Arizona Cardinals
Lawrence Guy, Baltimore Ravens
Charles Johnson, Carolina Panthers
Mario Addison, Carolina Panthers
C.J. Wilson, Chicago Bears
Cornelius Washington, Chicago Bears
Margus Hunt, Cincinnati Bengals
Wallace Gilberry, Cincinnati Bengals
Stephen Paea, Cleveland Browns
Jack Crawford, Dallas Cowboys
Vance Walker, Denver Broncos
Billy Winn, Denver Broncos
Devin Taylor, Detroit Lions
Antonio Smith, Houston Texans
Kendall Reyes, Kansas City Chiefs
Jarvis Jenkins, Kansas City Chiefs
Cam Thomas, Los Angeles Rams
Dion Jordan, Miami Dolphins
Andre Branch, Miami Dolphins
Jason Jones, Miami Dolphins
Justin Trattou, Minnesota Vikings
Jabaal Sheard, New England Patriots
Chris Long, New England Patriots
Greg Scruggs, New England Patriots
Darryl Tapp, New Orleans Saints
Jason Pierre-Paul, New York Giants
Damion Square, San Diego Chargers
Glenn Dorsey, San Francisco 49ers
Tony Jerod-Eddie, San Francisco 49ers
Damontre Moore, Seattle Seahawks
John Hughes, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
William Gholston, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Chris Baker, Washington Redskins
Cullen Jenkins, Washington Redskins
Ziggy Hood, Washington Redskins

Defensive tackles
Frostee Rucker, Arizona Cardinals
Jonathan Babineaux, Atlanta Falcons
Brandon Williams, Baltimore Ravens
Corbin Bryant, Buffalo Bills
Leger Douzable, Buffalo Bills
Kawann Short, Carolina Panthers
Kyle Love, Carolina Panthers
Domata Peko, Cincinnati Bengals
Brandon Thompson, Cincinnati Bengals
Terrell McClain, Dallas Cowboys
Sylvester Williams, Denver Broncos
Stefan Charles, Detroit Lions
Tyrunn Walker, Detroit Lions
Vince Wilfork, Houston Texans
Devon Still, Houston Texans
Tyson Alualu, Jacksonville Jaguars
Abry Jones, Jacksonville Jaguars
Jordan Hill, Jacksonville Jaguars
Dontari Poe, Kansas City Chiefs
Alan Branch, New England Patriots
Nick Fairley, New Orleans Saints
Johnathan Hankins, New York Giants
Stacy McGee, Oakland Raiders
Bennie Logan, Philadelphia Eagles
Ricardo Mathews, Pittsburgh Steelers
Sean Lissemore, San Diego Chargers
Tony McDaniel, Seattle Seahawks
John Jenkins, Seattle Seahawks
Sealver Siliga, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Akeem Spence, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Karl Klug, Tennessee Titans
Kedric Golston, Washington Redskins

Outside linebackers
Chandler Jones, Arizona Cardinals
Alex Okafor, Arizona Cardinals
Courtney Upshaw, Atlanta Falcons
Dwight Freeney, Atlanta Falcons
Philip Wheeler, Atlanta Falcons
Ramon Humber, Buffalo Bills
Lorenzo Alexander, Buffalo Bills
Lerentee McCray, Buffalo Bills
Sam Acho, Chicago Bears
Andrew Gachkar, Dallas Cowboys
DeMarcus Ware, Denver Broncos
Dekoda Watson, Denver Broncos
Josh Bynes, Detroit Lions
Armonty Bryant, Detroit Lions
Julius Peppers, Green Bay Packers
Nick Perry, Green Bay Packers
Datone Jones, Green Bay Packers
John Simon, Houston Texans
Trent Cole, Indianapolis Colts
Erik Walden, Indianapolis Colts
Akeem Ayers, Indianapolis Colts
Chris Carter, Indianapolis Colts
Spencer Paysinger, Miami Dolphins
Jelani Jenkins, Miami Dolphins
Chad Greenway, Minnesota Vikings
Barkevious Mingo, New England Patriots
Paul Kruger, New Orleans Saints
Michael Mauti, New Orleans Saints
Mark Herzlich, New York Giants
Corey Lemonier, New York Jets
Josh Martin, New York Jets
Bryan Braman, Philadelphia Eagles
Jarvis Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers
James Harrison, Pittsburgh Steelers
Melvin Ingram, San Diego Chargers
Tourek Williams, San Diego Chargers
Mike Morgan, Seattle Seahawks
David Bass, Tennessee Titans
Junior Galette, Washington Redskins

Inside Linebackers
Kevin Minter, Arizona Cardinals
Sio Moore, Arizona Cardinals
Paul Worrilow, Atlanta Falcons
Sean Weatherspoon, Atlanta Falcons
LaRoy Reynolds, Atlanta Falcons
Zach Brown, Buffalo Bills
Ben Jacobs, Carolina Panthers
A.J. Klein, Carolina Panthers
Rolando McClain, Dallas Cowboys
Justin Durant, Dallas Cowboys
Jon Bostic, Detroit Lions
Akeem Dent, Houston Texans
Donald Butler, Miami Dolphins
Audie Cole, Minnesota Vikings
Dont'a Hightower, New England Patriots
Jason Trusnik, New Orleans Saints
Sam Barrington, New Orleans Saints
Keenan Robinson, New York Giants
Kelvin Sheppard, New York Giants
Bruce Carter, New York Jets
Malcolm Smith, Oakland Raiders
Perry Riley, Oakland Raiders
Daren Bates, Oakland Raiders
Stephen Tulloch, Philadelphia Eagles
Najee Goode, Philadelphia Eagles
Lawrence Timmons, Pittsburgh Steelers
Steven Johnson, Pittsburgh Steelers
Manti Te'o, San Diego Chargers
Michael Wilhoite, San Francisco 49ers
Nick Bellore, San Francisco 49ers
Gerald Hodges, San Francisco 49ers
Daryl Smith, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Sean Spence, Tennessee Titans
Nate Palmer, Tennessee Titans
Terence Garvin, Washington Redskins

Cornerbacks
Mike Jenkins, Arizona Cardinals
Marcus Cooper, Arizona Cardinals
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Atlanta Falcons
Jerraud Powers, Baltimore Ravens
Stephon Gilmore, Buffalo Bills
Corey White, Buffalo Bills
Teddy Williams, Carolina Panthers
Leonard Johnson, Carolina Panthers
Johnthan Banks, Chicago Bears
Dre Kirkpatrick, Cincinnati Bengals
Chykie Brown, Cincinnati Bengals
Brandon Boykin, Cincinnati Bengals
Josh Thomas, Dallas Cowboys
Morris Claiborne, Dallas Cowboys
Kayvon Webster, Denver Broncos
Asa Jackson, Detroit Lions
A.J. Bouye, Houston Texans
Darius Butler, Indianapolis Colts
Darryl Morris, Indianapolis Colts
Prince Amukamara, Jacksonville Jaguars
Trumaine Johnson, Los Angeles Rams
Chimdi Chekwa, Miami Dolphins
Captain Munnerlyn, Minnesota Vikings
Terence Newman, Minnesota Vikings
Logan Ryan, New England Patriots
Kyle Wilson, New Orleans Saints
Sterling Moore, New Orleans Saints
Leon Hall, New York Giants
Coty Sensabaugh, New York Giants
Trevin Wade, New York Giants
D.J. Hayden, Oakland Raiders
Dwayne Gratz, Philadelphia Eagles
Nolan Carroll, Philadelphia Eagles
Robert McClain, San Diego Chargers
Josh Robinson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Valentino Blake, Tennessee Titans
Greg Toler, Washington Redskins

Safeties
Tony Jefferson, Arizona Cardinals
D.J. Swearinger, Arizona Cardinals
Dashon Goldson, Atlanta Falcons
Kemal Ishmael, Atlanta Falcons
Matt Elam, Baltimore Ravens
Anthony Levine, Baltimore Ravens
Colt Anderson, Buffalo Bills
James Ihedigbo, Buffalo Bills
Robert Blanton, Buffalo Bills
Colin Jones, Carolina Panthers
Michael Griffin, Carolina Panthers
Chris Prosinski, Chicago Bears
Jordan Poyer, Cleveland Browns
Barry Church, Dallas Cowboys
J.J. Wilcox, Dallas Cowboys
Rafael Bush, Detroit Lions
Micah Hyde, Green Bay Packers
Quintin Demps, Houston Texans
Don Jones, Houston Texans
Mike Adams, Indianapolis Colts
Duke Williams, Indianapolis Colts
Johnathan Cyprien, Jacksonville Jaguars
Eric Berry, Kansas City Chiefs
T.J. McDonald, Los Angeles Rams
Michael Thomas, Miami Dolphins
Duron Harmon, New England Patriots
Roman Harper, New Orleans Saints
Jamarca Sanford, New Orleans Saints
Shiloh Keo, New Orleans Saints
Nate Allen, Oakland Raiders
Brynden Trawick, Oakland Raiders
Shamarko Thomas, Pittsburgh Steelers
Jahleel Addae, San Diego Chargers
Jeron Johnson, Seattle Seahawks
Kelcie McCray, Seattle Seahawks
Chris Conte, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Bradley McDougald, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Daimion Stafford, Tennessee Titans
Rashad Johnson, Tennessee Titans
Donte Whitner, Washington Redskins
Duke Ihenacho, Washington Redskins

Kickers
Connor Barth, Chicago Bears
Randy Bullock, Cincinnati Bengals
Zach Hocker, Cincinnati Bengals
Nick Novak, Houston Texans
Greg Zuerlein, Los Angeles Rams
Robbie Gould, New York Giants
Phil Dawson, San Francisco 49ers
Steven Hauschka, Seattle Seahawks

Punters
Britton Colquitt, Cleveland Browns
Shane Lechler, Houston Texans
Jeff Locke, Minnesota Vikings
Bryan Anger, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Long snappers
Thomas Gafford, Denver Broncos
Don Muhlbach, Detroit Lions
Brett Goode, Green Bay Packers
John Denney, Miami Dolphins
Justin Drescher, New Orleans Saints
Zak DeOssie, New York Giants
Tanner Purdum, New York Jets
Jon Condo, Oakland Raiders
Greg Warren, Pittsburgh Steelers
Mike Windt, San Diego Chargers
Nick Sundberg, Washington Redskins

Leslie91

Vincent Jackson, San Diego Chargers?.... once upon a time yes.

TOss Sweep

Leslie91 wrote: »

Vincent Jackson, San Diego Chargers?.... once upon a time yes.

Sure there are more mistakes NFL.com piss poor at proof reading

TOss Sweep

Apparently Browns are considering Garoppolo

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/browns_qb_buzz_on_jimmy_garopp.html

Looks like the Pats may have found a winner. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest for the Browns to give the Pats that first round pick

HigginsJ

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Apparently Browns are considering Garoppolo

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/browns_qb_buzz_on_jimmy_garopp.html

Looks like the Pats may have found a winner. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest for the Browns to give the Pats that first round pick

What would the thinking be of a fair price for Garoppolo?

I would give up something like a 2nd & 4th or a pair of 3's, in no world would I give a 1st, especially not a top 12 pick (which Bill would undoubtedly turn into 14 2nd's that he could use to draft obscure corners & safeties!!)

Realt Dearg Sec

A lot of bears fans debating this very issue. Consensus seems to be they'll want a first and a fourth, and with the way things are going they might just get exactly that (not from Chicago though, I wouldn't say). My problem is that his record is way too slim to be giving up such a price. So I expect the browns to soil themselves again of course and continue helping to pad out the new England roster for years to come. Whether he's worth the price or not, I think he'll command that kind of price in the current climate

the baby bull elephant

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Apparently Browns are considering Garoppolo

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/browns_qb_buzz_on_jimmy_garopp.html

Looks like the Pats may have found a winner. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest for the Browns to give the Pats that first round pick

If they give a first rounder it'll be their second one. Garret and JG would automatically upgrade them a lot but it would still be a crazy trade.

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HigginsJ wrote: »

What would the thinking be of a fair price for Garoppolo?

I would give up something like a 2nd & 4th or a pair of 3's, in no world would I give a 1st, especially not a top 12 pick (which Bill would undoubtedly turn into 14 2nd's that he could use to draft obscure corners & safeties!!)

Pats want 1st round for him. Hard to say what is a 'Fair' price though given how teams bite on ridiculous trades all the time. I think what we see as fair and what teams with needs see as fair are two different things. My opinion would be 3rd or 4th round pick but when I add the factors of the stupidity and needs of NFL teams the Pats will easily get a 2nd round pick for him and I wouldn't be surprised if someone trades down in draft and gets extra lower round picks and then gives the Pats their lower 1st round pick for Jimmy G.

Or the Browns will just straight up give us their 1st round pick.

eagle eye

HigginsJ wrote: »

What would the thinking be of a fair price for Garoppolo?

I would give up something like a 2nd & 4th or a pair of 3's, in no world would I give a 1st, especially not a top 12 pick (which Bill would undoubtedly turn into 14 2nd's that he could use to draft obscure corners & safeties!!)

Garoppolo has already shown he can play at a high level in the NFL and there are no outstanding prospects at the position in this draft. Imo it's more than just the first round pick.

I'd be of the opinion that you'd want to be giving me a 2nd and a 4th for Brissett but no chance you get Jimmy G for anything like that.

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eagle eye wrote: »

Garoppolo has already shown he can play at a high level in the NFL and there are no outstanding prospects at the position in this draft. Imo it's more than just the first round pick.

I'd be of the opinion that you'd want to be giving me a 2nd and a 4th for Brissett but no chance you get Jimmy G for anything like that.

And this is the same mentality that teams have and why so many give up so much for guys with very little experience. Jimmy G may be worth a 1st round pick in the current climate but it is incredibly hard to say that is exactly what he is worth.

Same as Premier League Overpaying for players because it is the current climate and thing to do to get your man.

We all know there is a difference between True Value and the Inflated Value caused by current climate and needs. Be a fool to think otherwise really.

HigginsJ

eagle eye wrote: »

Garoppolo has already shown he can play at a high level in the NFL and there are no outstanding prospects at the position in this draft. Imo it's more than just the first round pick.

I'd be of the opinion that you'd want to be giving me a 2nd and a 4th for Brissett but no chance you get Jimmy G for anything like that.

He can play at a high level, in that system. Bill is a genius, he can game plan like no-one else IMO. My opinion is if the Pat's believed he was the heir apparent they wouldn't consider trading him as Brady has max 1 to 2 seasons left.

What would you want for Garoppolo?

In terms of high level prospects in the draft, there are obviously a number of guys who are going to grade out a lot higher than Garoppolo did when he was coming out.

eagle eye

HigginsJ wrote: »

He can play at a high level, in that system. Bill is a genius, he can game plan like no-one else IMO. My opinion is if the Pat's believed he was the heir apparent they wouldn't consider trading him as Brady has max 1 to 2 seasons left.

What would you want for Garoppolo?

In terms of high level prospects in the draft, there are obviously a number of guys who are going to grade out a lot higher than Garoppolo did when he was coming out.

Right there are a couple of parts to this question.

Brady might be done shortly or he could go on for another five or six years. He really does put the work in to keep himself in shape. All the stretching he does is insane but clearly it works.

Now here is the big thing to consider, look back at Jimmy G and see how similar he looked to Brady in the pocket. This is the most important thing when grading. He was able to step around the pocket effortlessly just like the man who he sat behind for a couple of seasons. He threw four tds and no ints, he had a completion percentage of circa 71%.

You mention how he was graded in his draft year, that doesn't matter now that he has been seen in action in the NFL. I mean if Brady was up for trade a couple of seasons back are you going back to his draft year to decide whether to take him or some college prospect?

Even at that, I don't think there will be anyone grading out higher than he did anyways. This is a very poor QB draft class.

AbusesToilets

The question is, who represents more of a risk, the QB who has spent the last 3 years developing and learning or the rookie straight out of college? The rookie is Obv better from a financial perspective, but Jimmy has shown he can play at an NFL level, albeit in a brief window.

As a Pats fan I'm pretty torn tbh. I watched him play in Phoenix and he looked good, and only improved against Miami.

Realt Dearg Sec

A really, really brief window. I mean if we're taking his time as starter as representative (0 interceptions etc), we can also note that he was injured 50℅ of the time. We can't cherry pick stats so we have to accept that we don't have enough information. I mean Matt Barkley put up 27 points against the packers and only barely lost due to some rodgers magic. A record number of wide receiver drops also cost him a win against Tennessee. Unfortunately he didn't get injured so we ended up seeing that he's an interception machine as well, but if I only had those two games to go on I'd be happy to spend a low first or a second on him.

What I do know is that the patriots have a history of trading back up qbs that looked pretty good until playing for someone else, for nice ransoms. We also know that they nearly never come out worse in a trade (I can think of one minor exception off the top of my head, but nothing anyone would care about).

Garopolo might live up to the promise, I don't know, I'm not a great reader of quarterback play. if you think he's going to be your guy, well then he is, by definition, worth a first round pick, I suppose. If I was the browns I'd want my first round picks, and for that matter I wouldn't want my team shielding more than a second rounder on him either

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Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

A really, really brief window. I mean if we're taking his time as starter as representative (0 interceptions etc), we can also note that he was injured 50℅ of the time. We can't cherry pick stats so we have to accept that we don't have enough information. I mean Matt Barkley put up 27 points against the packers and only barely lost due to some rodgers magic. A record number of wide receiver drops also cost him a win against Tennessee. Unfortunately he didn't get injured so we ended up seeing that he's an interception machine as well, but if I only had those two games to go on I'd be happy to spend a low first or a second on him.

Very true even look at Matt Flynn. Guy hand a couple of solid games in place of Rodgers and teams were throwing money at him and where is he today?

What I do know is that the patriots have a history of trading back up qbs that looked pretty good until playing for someone else, for nice ransoms. We also know that they nearly never come out worse in a trade (I can think of one minor exception off the top of my head, but nothing anyone would care about).

As much as I think Jimmy could come good eventually this is the key tht everyone seems to forget. The Patriots are one of the best teams in the business of adjusting to suit the personnel they have. This is why we have the system QB crap come out from those who don't like Brady. But it works and gets the most out of all the QBs we have used.

Garopolo might live up to the promise, I don't know, I'm not a great reader of quarterback play. if you think he's going to be your guy, well then he is, by definition, worth a first round pick, I suppose. If I was the browns I'd want my first round picks, and for that matter I wouldn't want my team shielding more than a second rounder on him either

I agree I love Jimmy and I hope he does well and goes on to a solid career but it really is too early to tell and if I am being honest the Browns is the worst place he could go especially with the pressure of being traded for a 1st round pick.

Knex*

I don't think Garoppolo is worth a first, but I'd certainly rather spend a first on him than any of the QBs in this year's draft.

Even look at what the Rams and the Eagles gave up last year for Wentz and Goff. That type of ransom can cripple a franchise if the QB is a bust.

There's talk even of some teams being daft enough to trade for the number 1 pick this year to select Mitch Trubisky. If that happens, and the Browns do a separate trade for Jimmy G, I think they'll be doing alright.

Missing out on Myles Garrett would be the only negative, but I'm sure they'd be well compensated.

cosatron

I don't think any back up qb is worth a first round pick. The Browns would be best served to put the pieces in place this year for drafting a qb next year assuming the class is better next year or take a punt on a qb in the second round and he might be another Wilson or Prescott

HigginsJ

The Browns should take Myles Garrett, from everything I have read and seen he is a stud (watch him flame out in Cleveland), there seems to be little to no debate that he is the best player in this draft. It is the 12 pick that they need to decide what to do with.

Ideal world trade down to mid 20's and make a QB decision, I would say trade down, add picks and take Pat Mahomes. They need a new QB, RGIII can't be relied on and not hearing convincing things about Cody Kessler.

D9Male

I think a combination of RG3 and Cody Kessler is enough to hold the fort for another year - draft best players available and build for a quarter back next year.

HigginsJ

D9Male wrote: »

I think a combination of RG3 and Cody Kessler is enough to hold the fort for another year - draft best players available and build for a quarter back next year.

Waiting for a quarterback is always a risky game, what looks great now can, & very often does, change quickly. They should draft a QB regardless this year, even if only a mid rounder, as they might strike lightning in a bottle.

That being said, they could have ARod at QB next year and they would be lucky to get 6 wins.