Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

noc1980

GerryDerpy wrote: »

This has been said before, McGregor rarely KOs people in MMA, he drops them and the ref stops the fight. I can only remember Aldo being KO'd stiff in Conor's UFC career.

In the UFC yes, prior to that he had at least 2 'lights out' one shot KOs I recall. 1 was an almost carbon copy of the Aldo KO and the other a vicious left hook that had his opponent drop like he was shot. He put 185lbs+ Nate Diaz down 3 times. Nobody had ever done that to Diaz (down once in his career from a head kick, never KOd) - Lack of power isn't one of Conor's problems in this fight.

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

Just put my money where my mouth is
100 euro on Mayweather to win in rounds 1-4 at odds of 11/2

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

normanoffside wrote: »

Paulie says that Conor hits nowhere near as hard as Amir Imam.

Imam is a pro boxer. Do you think he beats Floyd?

Humm I'm not sure what argument you're trying to pick. I was going with the line that McGregor has respectable power, not OMG power. It was then argued that it mightn't transfer across to a Boxing match. This makes no sense. We have Pauline saying that the power was respectable - that was in boxing sparring.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Just put my money where my mouth is
100 euro on Mayweather to win in rounds 1-4 at odds of 11/2

Pic or GTFO!

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

noc1980 wrote: »

In the UFC yes, prior to that he had at least 2 'lights out' one shot KOs I recall. 1 was an almost carbon copy of the Aldo KO and the other a vicious left hook that had his opponent drop like he was shot. He put 185lbs+ Nate Diaz down 3 times. Nobody had ever done that to Diaz (down once in his career from a head kick, never KOd) - Lack of power isn't one of Conor's problems in this fight.

I still go along with walshb's opinion - he doesn't have pure KO heavyweight absolute power. Yes he does have good relative power for his weight. But I maintain that it's the way he hits them on the button that makes his relatively good power so effective.

normanoffside

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Humm I'm not sure what argument you're trying to pick. I was going with the line that McGregor has respectable power, not OMG power. It was then argued that it mightn't transfer across to a Boxing match. This makes no sense. We have Pauline saying that the power was respectable - that was in boxing sparring.

The point is fairly simple. Imam is a professional boxer. He is a bigger puncher than Conor and is more skilled at boxing. No one would give him a hope in hell against Floyd and if a fight with him were made it would be called a farce. McGregor has much less chance than him against Floyd and has less of a 'punchers chance'

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

normanoffside wrote: »

The point is fairly simple. Imam is a professional boxer. He is a bigger puncher than Conor and is more skilled at boxing. No one would give him a hope in hell against Floyd and if a fight with him were made it would be called a farce. McGregor has much less chance than him against Floyd and has less of a 'punchers chance'

Ooookay. I wasn't implying Conor's "respectable" power means he beats Floyd Mayweather. Maybe I should have explicitly said that.

Danzy

Floyd via KO-TKO

He has a good punch and power, is accurate, but his power is not going to be anything that Mayweather will not have seen countless times.

The challenge remains landing punches on Mayweather and if he does, not getting 5 or 6 in return.

normanoffside

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Ooookay. I wasn't implying Conor's "respectable" power means he beats Floyd Mayweather. Maybe I should have explicitly said that.

But how can Conor win other than by a 'punchers chance'?

Joeseph Balls

Floyd via DQ

Danzy wrote: »

He has a good punch and power, is accurate, but his power is not going to be anything that Mayweather will not have seen countless times.

The challenge remains landing punches on Mayweather and if he does, not getting 5 or 6 in return.

This is the long and short of it imo. He is very accurate in MMA, he seems to connect in the sweet spot with ease, without his punches looking overly fast. I'd love Conor to win, but I feel for every punch he throws, Floyd will have 2 or 3 landed in return. And after round 3 or 4, I think as soon as conor commits, Floyd will have one on him and Conor hits open space. I think after round 3 or 4 Conors only chance is coming out of the clinch but Floyd's been there a million times before.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

normanoffside wrote: »

But how can Conor win other than by a 'punchers chance'?

In my opinion: Conor's style will be very strange to Mayweather. He normally boxes on instinct, muscle memory, experience. But against McGregor he will have to consciously THINK during the first few rounds. This will slow down his reflexes, both defensively and offensively.

Conor then has an advantage: he is fighting a style and at a distance that he has mastered. He will be better than Floyd and coming in, landing, and getting back out of reach.

If the above is true, Conor lands a few good blows. And the respectable power combined with (and more importantly) McGregor's precision from such distances results in The Best Ever getting dropped.

He may get back up. But it will hurt enough that he never gets to "figure out" McGregor's timing/style. He will get dropped again, and this time won't get up before the count is over.

Doubt him then.

hbhook

Floyd via DQ

As the Thomas Hauser article said the other day:''Mayweather doesn’t know how McGregor will box because Conor doesn’t know how to box''.

Joeseph Balls

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

normanoffside wrote: »

But how can Conor win other than by a 'punchers chance'?

In my opinion: Conor's style will be very strange to Mayweather. He normally boxes on instinct, muscle memory, experience. But against McGregor he will have to consciously THINK during the first few rounds. This will slow down his reflexes, both defensively and offensively.

If anything , it will not slow down his defensive instincts. If it confuses Floyd, expect his offence to slow but his defence will not. How many times has social media called 'Floyd is troubled' in the first few rounds, only for it to be a boring clinic and Floyd wide points win. We hear about Conors sparring partners all the time but you can be sure Floyd is taking this seriously too. The silence could be defending as they say.

Joeseph Balls

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

normanoffside wrote: »

But how can Conor win other than by a 'punchers chance'?

In my opinion: Conor's style will be very strange to Mayweather. He normally boxes on instinct, muscle memory, experience. But against McGregor he will have to consciously THINK during the first few rounds. This will slow down his reflexes, both defensively and offensively.

If anything , it will not slow down his defensive instincts. If it confuses Floyd, expect his offence to slow but his defence will not. How many times has social media called 'Floyd is troubled' in the first few rounds, only for it to be a boring clinic and Floyd wide points win. We hear about Conors sparring partners all the time but you can be sure Floyd is taking this seriously too. The silence could be defending as they say.

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

100 euro on Mayweather to win inside 4 rounds.
Odds 11/2

Depp

Conor via DQ

begbysback wrote: »

You believe thinking will slow down his reflexes?

lol - just lol

If the above is true Ill eat my mickey - toasted

pmsl

I hope this matchup gets postponed for a few months - cause where do we go for lolz when its all over?

gunna counter any of the points made or just keep posting childish bs? you disagree with the poster explain why don't just be a d!ckhead

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

Depp wrote: »

gunna counter any of the points made or just keep posting childish bs? you disagree with the poster explain why don't just be a d!ckhead

theres 240 pages on here - go look for them instead of posting bs and being a dikhead

Depp

Conor via DQ

begbysback wrote: »

theres 240 pages on here - go look for them instead of posting bs and being a dikhead

you can do better than just saying what i said back to me, grow up

normanoffside

Floyd via DQ

Depp wrote: »

gunna counter any of the points made or just keep posting childish bs? you disagree with the poster explain why don't just be a d!ckhead

I was the one who asked the questions and I also think it's completely delusional. Floyd is the one with the superior reflexes, defence and speed. He is also incredibly adept at dodging punches.
If Conor doesn't have the chance of finishing it with one big power blow he has no chance. FFS canelo couldn't even land on him and he hits a lot harder and has better boxing skills than Conor.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

Deedsie wrote: »

You are the one talking about eating your own penis. I'd hope we could expect a slightly more mature level of discussion over the four weeks.

Depp wrote: »

you can do better than just saying what i said back to me, grow up

Toasted... look lads, if you come on here with a version of Alice in Wonderland, try not to be offended if someone points out that its a fairytale

Depp

Conor via DQ

begbysback wrote: »

Toasted... look lads, if you come on here with a version of Alice in Wonderland, try not to be offended if someone points out that its a fairytale

you didn't point anything out though? just a load of ''lols'' and other nonsense, look you're opinion on the fight and how it will go dont mean much to me but why the need to post like a 12 year old?

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

Ok took it down - wasnt meant to offend anyone

Rough Sleeper

GerryDerpy wrote: »

In my opinion: Conor's style will be very strange to Mayweather. He normally boxes on instinct, muscle memory, experience. But against McGregor he will have to consciously THINK during the first few rounds. This will slow down his reflexes, both defensively and offensively.

Conor then has an advantage: he is fighting a style and at a distance that he has mastered. He will be better than Floyd and coming in, landing, and getting back out of reach.

If the above is true, Conor lands a few good blows. And the respectable power combined with (and more importantly) McGregor's precision from such distances results in The Best Ever getting dropped.

He may get back up. But it will hurt enough that he never gets to "figure out" McGregor's timing/style. He will get dropped again, and this time won't get up before the count is over.

Doubt him then.

Anime isn't real, man.

Rough Sleeper

I think football managers are missing a trick by not trying out a Flying V formation against Real Madrid. They'd have never seen it before, and their diminished pace and playing ability from the resulting bamboozlement will leave them ripe for the picking.

Donald Trump

Floyd via DQ

Danzy wrote: »

He has a good punch and power, is accurate, but his power is not going to be anything that Mayweather will not have seen countless times.

The challenge remains landing punches on Mayweather and if he does, not getting 5 or 6 in return.

How would someone quantify "accurate"? His fist hitting fresh air exactly where MW's head/body was half a second previously? Accuracy is not much good without sufficient speed. Probably throwing single punches as well. I mean, is McG going to be able to set up his punches? I'm not convinced that he will


(And a half second is a lot of time too!)

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

In my opinion: Conor's style will be very strange to Mayweather. He normally boxes on instinct, muscle memory, experience. But against McGregor he will have to consciously THINK during the first few rounds. This will slow down his reflexes, both defensively and offensively.

Conor then has an advantage: he is fighting a style and at a distance that he has mastered. He will be better than Floyd and coming in, landing, and getting back out of reach.

If the above is true, Conor lands a few good blows. And the respectable power combined with (and more importantly) McGregor's precision from such distances results in The Best Ever getting dropped.

He may get back up. But it will hurt enough that he never gets to "figure out" McGregor's timing/style. He will get dropped again, and this time won't get up before the count is over.

Doubt him then.

I do doubt him. I doubt he'll land anything significant throughout the fight.

Conor has one advantage in this fight a 2 in reach. That's it. His fighting style however he approaches it will not slow down Floyd's reflexes. And I don't know why you would even think this. It's ridiculous.

My point earlier on his power being respectable, if it's not OMG knock out power then McGregor literally has no chance. Respectable power even if he lands it wont hurt Mayweather, who's been hit a lot harder by better boxers with more precision and power than McGregor.

But I mean you've got your opinion, I have mine.

I see Mayweather is now offering to fight in 8 Oz gloves.

Frank Bullitt

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

In my opinion: Conor's style will be very strange to Mayweather. He normally boxes on instinct, muscle memory, experience. But against McGregor he will have to consciously THINK during the first few rounds. This will slow down his reflexes, both defensively and offensively.

Conor then has an advantage: he is fighting a style and at a distance that he has mastered. He will be better than Floyd and coming in, landing, and getting back out of reach.

If the above is true, Conor lands a few good blows. And the respectable power combined with (and more importantly) McGregor's precision from such distances results in The Best Ever getting dropped.

He may get back up. But it will hurt enough that he never gets to "figure out" McGregor's timing/style. He will get dropped again, and this time won't get up before the count is over.

Doubt him then.

This is pie int he sky logic.

The only thing Conor could do to slow down Mayweather like you mention above is to drug him before the fight.

Conors style and distance and movement are great for MMA. This is not an MMA match, its a boxing match. If Conor stands back further and engages an attack from far back, it just gives Mayweather ample time to see the attack coming, move and plan his counter.

If you doubt the reflexes, here he is pretty much touching Cotto, Cotto swings and misses.

Now imagine his from further back.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Just to throw a curve ball here. Mayweather is 40 now and referencing fights from 3-4-5 years ago, whilst useful, could prove a bit of a banana skin.

Frank Bullitt

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Just to throw a curve ball here. Mayweather is 40 now and referencing fights from 3-4-5 years ago, whilst useful, could prove a bit of a banana skin.

Even if he has lost 50% of his speed, he is still rocket fast.

Plus, if McGregor uses a longer distance (as suggested by some in here) that would offset any speed he has lost surely?

Wailin

Floyd via DQ

noc1980 wrote: »

In the UFC yes, prior to that he had at least 2 'lights out' one shot KOs I recall. 1 was an almost carbon copy of the Aldo KO and the other a vicious left hook that had his opponent drop like he was shot. He put 185lbs+ Nate Diaz down 3 times. Nobody had ever done that to Diaz (down once in his career from a head kick, never KOd) - Lack of power isn't one of Conor's problems in this fight.

Yeah, and how many of those were slips?