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Connacht Rugby Thread - Part IV - Just Another Manic Bundee

  • 20-12-2016 1:14pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    More than 10 000 posts, time for a brand-new thread !!
     
    To complete the title :
     
    Only 13 months to fill the Part III, specific mention and bravo for Absoluvely who previewed this Part III in November 2015 with «If Connacht have another good season I'd say we could see Part IV by the end of 2016! »
    https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057525553?
     
    A 2016 year in the book of legends, victorious against the 3 Irish provinces, the 3 Welsh, Glasgow twice, Toulouse, Wasps…
     
    A growing fan-base and reputation, helped by gents behaviour, from leaving coach Lam to the last staff member or underage player.
     
    An Academy which BTW produced amazingly numerous talents
     
    A good bunch of International players (Dillane, Bealham, Marmion, TOH, Niyi, Roux, Healy) and others yet to come maybe sooner rather than later (McCartney, Aki, Buckley, Heenan, Kelleher). Many re-signed, including today !
     
    A total-rugby style, destructive mauls and scrums, open-play from our 22, touchline conversions, props who pass the ball like centres, centres who ruck like props.
     
    A province who came from threats of disband to strict equality with the others (or close to…))
     
    A team which has FRONTED UP, RISEN UP !!!
     
    Let the discussion begin :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great news about Buckley, Roux and Carty to add to McCartney yesterday. Buckley, in particular, must have had some interest from overseas so it's great to see him sign on for another two years. It's really positive to see almost all the key first team players signed on as early as this. I'd expect all of the others, apart from probably John Cooney, to follow suit before too long.

    The most important thing now, obviously, is getting the right head coach in place who will continue the momentum generated in the last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Connachta is the Anakin Skywalker of Connacht rugby


  • Administrators Posts: 54,257 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    case885 wrote: »
    Well if his reasoning is because he has to move country up to Belfast then there has to be serious questions asked of him which I'm sure will be nuciforas job. It's not just for the benefit of Ulster, Ireland need more quality at scrumhalf and Cooney starting regularly for Ulster will help that.
    I really don't see the negatives of joining Ulster that your saying all these players see.

    I personally do not see the negatives either, but then again I am from there. All I am saying is a move to Belfast doesn't seem as desirable to southern players as moves to Limerick, Galway or Dublin. It hasn't been in the past and I doubt anything has changed.

    At the end of the day the only thing Ulster can offer him that Connacht can't is a promise of game time, so really you're entirely at the mercy of the player's own ambition and how that weighs up within their personal life. Nucifora appears to be powerless here, according to this forum anyway.

    But really, if anyone thinks Ulster haven't spoken to Cooney they are living in a fantasy dreamworld. I don't know if the move or happen or not, mutterings on UAFC are not that positive but they have been wrong in the past, but Ulster are in a very desperate situation at 9 next year and there is no way they haven't spoken to him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭b.gud


    From the other thread
    awec wrote: »
    Well it's pretty different in fairness, politics aside you are moving to a different country. People keep thinking that Ulster just have to come calling and these guys will jump at the chance, but that does not tally with reality. Ulster have been turned down before by players, players who are not regulars at other provinces and would be at Ulster.

    The only moves to NI that have happened in recent times have been players who couldn't get deals elsewhere. Ross, Shanahan, Lloyd, O'Connor, all guys rejected by their own province or picked up from club rugby. Ah You moved, but he is not Irish and has already moved to the other side of the world anyway.

    This is a huge part of how Connacht have stocked their academy and senior team and look at what we've achieved


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Connachta is the Anakin Skywalker of Connacht rugby
    You should note I'm back on the Light side of the force with such a positive preview :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Great news about Buckley, Roux and Carty to add to McCartney yesterday. Buckley, in particular, must have had some interest from overseas so it's great to see him sign on for another two years. It's really positive to see almost all the key first team players signed on as early as this. I'd expect all of the others, apart from probably John Cooney, to follow suit before too long.

    The most important thing now, obviously, is getting the right head coach in place who will continue the momentum generated in the last few years.
    Can't believe it for Buckley. Great news. I can reasonably imagine a whole international front-5 this autumn (with McCartney, Bealham, Roux and Dillane)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    awec wrote: »
    I personally do not see the negatives either, but then again I am from there. All I am saying is a move to Belfast doesn't seem as desirable to southern players as moves to Limerick, Galway or Dublin. It hasn't been in the past and I doubt anything has changed.

    I think this is pretty much the truth. There's simply too much anecdotal evidence for it not to be very likely and it goes both ways. There aren't many Ulster players that move south of the border either.

    At the end of the day, it's a different country politically, culturally and economically. We're different shades of grey but they're different regardless and that impacts on people's perception of moving between the areas.

    In rugby terms we're all one but unfortunately, the rugby teams need to operate within the geography they're subject to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    awec wrote: »
    I personally do not see the negatives either, but then again I am from there. All I am saying is a move to Belfast doesn't seem as desirable to southern players as moves to Limerick, Galway or Dublin. It hasn't been in the past and I doubt anything has changed.

    At the end of the day the only thing Ulster can offer him that Connacht can't is a promise of game time, so really you're entirely at the mercy of the player's own ambition and how that weighs up within their personal life. Nucifora appears to be powerless here, according to this forum anyway.

    But really, if anyone thinks Ulster haven't spoken to Cooney they are living in a fantasy dreamworld. I don't know if the move or happen or not, mutterings on UAFC are not that positive but they have been wrong in the past, but Ulster are in a very desperate situation at 9 next year and there is no way they haven't spoken to him.

    I would be amazed if Ulster haven't approached Cooney, and much as I'd be loathe to lose him, he would be a great signing for them. It would surely go a long way to redeeming Nucifora in Ulster eyes too... ;)


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    Delighted with the contract signings. Keep them coming


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Really happy we have Buckley tied down. Really hope he gets his shot with the international side, been so unlucky in the past.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Oh Come On, what happened to the title  "Reigning Champions, Joint-top in Europe". It was so clear and impressive :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭MarinersBlues


    connachta wrote: »
    Oh Come On, what happened to the title  "Reigning Champions, Joint-top in Europe". It was so clear and impressive :(
    We need to find a version of the Champions Cup group table that has us on top and fire that into the opening post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    connachta wrote: »
    Oh Come On, what happened to the title  "Reigning Champions, Joint-top in Europe". It was so clear and impressive :(

    Clear, impressive, factually incorrect.

    The mods here are sticklers for precision and accuracy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    connachta wrote: »
    Oh Come On, what happened to the title  "Reigning Champions, Joint-top in Europe". It was so clear and impressive :(
    We need to find a version of the Champions Cup group table that has us on top and fire that into the opening post.

    No, because we look to be 3rd (by " direct goalavarage-difference")


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    connachta wrote: »
    Oh Come On, what happened to the title  "Reigning Champions, Joint-top in Europe". It was so clear and impressive :(

    Clear, impressive, factually incorrect.

    The mods here are sticklers for precision and accuracy.
    Come on, WE ARE JOINT-TOP. Same number of points


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    It's a huge relief to have Roux and Buckley enlisted.
    A lot of players still there with contract expiring this summer. But none of them was so important.
    IMO the next priorities are Parata, Cooney and  Carey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    I for one look forward to another thread of wall to wall connachta posts :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    connachta wrote: »
    Come on, WE ARE JOINT-TOP. Same number of points

    Of your group


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    monsieur ruane, with these ferrero renewals you are really spoiling us


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    connachta wrote: »
    Come on, WE ARE JOINT-TOP. Same number of points

    Of your group
    Oh ok, didn't see that interpretation coming. All-right, twisted minds :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    freyners wrote: »
    I for one look forward to another thread of wall to wall connachta posts :p
    At least, I hope you liked my opening preview here :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Conor Carey is my first cousin. After his foot injury against Wasps he's going to be out for 10 weeks!! He has done very well for himself since he started but it's hard to have this injury all of a sudden :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Conor Carey is my first cousin. After his foot injury against Wasps he's going to be out for 10 weeks!! He has done very well for himself since he started but it's hard to have this injury all of a sudden :(

    Crap, that's really disappointing he's been great for us since he arrived. Give him our best wishes


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Eoghan Masterson should be top of the re-sign list too
    But I took into account that:
    -Dawain SOB and McKeon can play 8, he's not in a crititical position as Roux, Carey, Buckley, Carty and Parata are, in the Connacht-squad perspective
    - We can't be sure he'll come back stronger than ever after an 8-month injury. SOB/Heenan had slow (re)starts but managed to do it. Hope the same for Eoghan really, but I'm waiting the next few weeks to see how he goes before prioritizing him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    b.gud wrote: »
    Conor Carey is my first cousin. After his foot injury against Wasps he's going to be out for 10 weeks!! He has done very well for himself since he started but it's hard to have this injury all of a sudden :(

    Crap, that's really disappointing he's been great for us since he arrived. Give him our best wishes
    Disaster for Toulouse Away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    connachta wrote: »
    Disaster for Toulouse Away.

    No one can play brilliantly all of the time :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    connachta wrote: »
    Disaster for Toulouse Away.

    No one can play brilliantly all of the time :pac:
    But we have no more cover for Bealham.
    Say to your cousin he'd very welcomed back before 6-nations start at least :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I'll tell him at the weekend :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    To finish 2016/maybe start 2017 with TH cover, as both Carey/McCoy are out,  we can

    1) Try Saba Meunargia
    2) Move Loughney/Cooney back to n°18, with McCartney/Soroka soon providing cover for LH side
    3) Have news about Conan O'Donnell, is he close to be back?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭typhoony


    it seems it's ingrained in us Connacht supporters that we accept that players will be taken from us, ok I know cooney came from leinster originally but at the other provinces there have been positions where they have strength in depth, now and over the last 10 years. can't see why we can't keep cooney and just accept that we have that strength in depth at scrum-half. if he wants to stay he will surely get plenty of gametime with Marmion away on int duty and Blade is not guaranteed to be fit\uninjured and also why not keep him for backup kicking duties when we have injuries at out-half


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    typhoony wrote: »
    it seems it's ingrained in us Connacht supporters that we accept that players will be taken from us, ok I know cooney came from leinster originally but at the other provinces there have been positions where they have strength in depth, now and over the last 10 years. can't see why we can't keep cooney and just accept that we have that strength in depth at scrum-half. if he wants to stay he will surely get plenty of gametime with Marmion away on int duty and Blade is not guaranteed to be fit\uninjured and also why not keep him for backup kicking duties when we have injuries at out-half

    We should sign martyr Moore when his deal comes to an end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-rugby/lam-steps-back-from-recruitment-at-connacht-35310480.html

    No Ili/Fox/Dawai/Muliana/So'oialo/McCartney to expect for next season.
    Except if Aki goes to holiday and find a hidden gem by himself :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    gally74 wrote: »
    typhoony wrote: »
    it seems it's ingrained in us Connacht supporters that we accept that players will be taken from us, ok I know cooney came from leinster originally but at the other provinces there have been positions where they have strength in depth, now and over the last 10 years. can't see why we can't keep cooney and just accept that we have that strength in depth at scrum-half. if he wants to stay he will surely get plenty of gametime with Marmion away on int duty and Blade is not guaranteed to be fit\uninjured and also why not keep him for backup kicking duties when we have injuries at out-half

    We should sign martyr Moore when his deal comes to an end.
    We don't need a TH prop in 2 years, but in 2 days, though. For interpros, my 91 y-o grandma is for now our 3rd choice there :'(


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Possibly my favourite thread title in some time. Kudos to whomever is responsible for that!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,578 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    gally74 wrote: »
    We should sign martyr Moore when his deal comes to an end.

    Would he be willing to die for the cause?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭mooonpie


    Anyone got any ideas on where I could chase up a copy of "Front Up Rise Up" signed by the team?

    I think I heard an announcement before kick-off on Saturday saying there would be copies in the marquee after the game ... but it somehow slipped my mind after Jack slotted the conversion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    mooonpie wrote: »
    Anyone got any ideas on where I could chase up a copy of "Front Up Rise Up" signed by the team?

    I think I heard an announcement before kick-off on Saturday saying there would be copies in the marquee after the game ... but it somehow slipped my mind after Jack slotted the conversion!

    They were selling them in the shop van at the game too, if you can wait I'd imagine they will have them at the Munster match too. Or ring the branch and ask, possibly Elverys might have them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    Clancy to ref our away christmas interpro again. Time for "unseen grounding but try awarded" or stuff like that. Wait and see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭BrokenMan


    connachta wrote: »
    Clancy to ref our away christmas interpro again. Time for "unseen grounding but try awarded" or stuff like that. Wait and see
    Can we please just stop with this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    BrokenMan wrote: »
    connachta wrote: »
    Clancy to ref our away christmas interpro again. Time for "unseen grounding but try awarded" or stuff like that. Wait and see
    Can we please just stop with this.
    Maybe, if he's all right this Friday


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    connachta wrote: »
    Clancy to ref our away christmas interpro again. Time for "unseen grounding but try awarded" or stuff like that. Wait and see

    Four days after Connacht keep their season on track thanks to a shocking refereeing blunder, so bad that the tournament organisers publicly acknowledged it, you're moaning about a perfectly correct piece of refereeing from a year ago that had no impact on the outcome of the match.

    Jesus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭connachta


    connachta wrote: »
    Clancy to ref our away christmas interpro again. Time for "unseen grounding but try awarded" or stuff like that. Wait and see

    Four days after Connacht keep their season on track thanks to a shocking refereeing blunder, so bad that the tournament organisers publicly acknowledged it, you're moaning about a perfectly correct piece of refereeing from a year ago that had no impact on the outcome of the match.

    Jesus.
    it was not correct (same situation not the same call to the TMO from Garcès to refuse the Connacht grounding this saturday), it had a massive influence on the game. Yes happy enough it didn't change the outcome of the season

    Anyway let's see how he does this Friday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    connachta wrote: »
    it was not correct (same situation not the same call to the TMO from Garcès to refuse the Connacht grounding this saturday), it had a massive influence on the game. Yes happy enough it didn't change the outcome of the season

    Anyway let's see how he does this Friday.

    Connacht didn't score in that game. It had zero impact on the result. There was absolutely nothing to suggest the ball wasn't grounded and the ref had a far better view than any camera. Bringing it up a year later is really pathetic. Move on. Especially seeing as you got the most ludicrous of decisions in your favour the other day that has kept your European campaign alive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    It's been a year Connachta. I can hold a grudge as well as most fans but I think it might be time to let this one go!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    connachta wrote: »
    it was not correct (same situation not the same call to the TMO from Garcès to refuse the Connacht grounding this saturday), it had a massive influence on the game. Yes happy enough it didn't change the outcome of the season

    Anyway let's see how he does this Friday.

    Four days after Connacht keep their season on track thanks to a shocking refereeing blunder, so bad that the tournament organisers publicly acknowledged it, you're moaning about a perfectly correct piece of refereeing from a year ago that had no impact on the outcome of the match.

    Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Four days after Connacht keep their season on track thanks to a shocking refereeing blunder, so bad that the tournament organisers publicly acknowledged it, you're moaning about a perfectly correct piece of refereeing from a year ago that had no impact on the outcome of the match.

    Jesus.

    We heard you the first time...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    mooonpie wrote: »
    Anyone got any ideas on where I could chase up a copy of "Front Up Rise Up" signed by the team?

    I think I heard an announcement before kick-off on Saturday saying there would be copies in the marquee after the game ... but it somehow slipped my mind after Jack slotted the conversion!

    They're in the Retail Park store I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    connachta wrote: »
    Clancy to ref our away christmas interpro again. Time for "unseen grounding but try awarded" or stuff like that. Wait and see

    Please stop, this place has been unbearable the last few days after a great result at the weekend.

    Same stuff being recycled time and time again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Grrrrr Neil Back Grrrrr


  • Administrators Posts: 54,257 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Clancy is the ref for Ulster v Connacht?

    giphy.gif


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