Ring Pro doorbell in Ireland

Stoner

Available from Amazon

Costs about 150 pounds basic Ring unit.
Pro is available from the states not Europe about 40 pounds more expensive

These are doorbells that still ring your old bell but also link to your WiFi network and trigger your Apple, Windows and android phone. You can talk to the person on your phone and you see and hear them, they hear you

There is a WiFi chime about 25 pounds that links to both models for extra notification, it uses WiFi, there can be a delay

Both record to the cloud @ 3 dollars a month per device

They have a Ring Camera too that uses the same app if you get it it's another 3 bucks a month

Both come with 1 months old recording trial trial

Both have a live view option added now
Both record about 40 second's
Evey record is available on the app and you launch the the videos c/w audio , they load from the cloud

Both units come with everything you need to mount them bar a drill.
Screwdrivers, plugs and screws , tiny spirit level (only useful for this), security driver
Both have a lifetime anti theft guarantee

There are two types the one Amazon.co.uk sell is the first one

Basic Ring

Straight exchange with your existing doorbell
Can be 12V to 24V

Video 720p
Wide angle view records all the area in view
Battery onboard charged form the 12-24V doorbell cables
Battery can last 6 months so you don't have to have it by the cables. But you might need the chime then
Charges from standard phone USB charger but you get a cable anyway
3 colours brass , chrome, bronze select when ordering
Motion detection
Night vision
Two way intercom
IFTTT compliant

Ring Pro, not sold in Europe as most doorbells here are 12V, you can order it form the states and change the traffo

Straight exchange with your existing doorbell if it's 16 -24 volts
Can be 16V to 24V
Video 1080p
Wide angle view records, you can select the area you want to record and ignore the rest
No battery so it's smaller but I has to be wired up
5 colours all given to you as clip on units
Motion detection
Night vision
Two way intercom
IFTTT compliant


I have the basic Ring I'm happy with 720p and I need to record the whole area anyway as it picks up my cars. If I had a need for the pro I would have bought it

Ring Pro will require the bell transformer being changed to a 16 V unit these are about 15 euro

Set up, its a great bit of packaging, you get a level, screwdriver with a reversible head one for the mounting screw and one for the security screws (just hex heads). The app set up takes minutes you pair the units by pressing a button on the back.

IFTTT options

You can use an applet to turn on a socket from IFTTT approved sockets when the bell or motion calls for recording. I've used this on lightwaverf, it works, ring the bell wait a couple of seconds and the lamps turns on. I'm going to delete this and use a handy lightwaverf feature, I'll call an event instead of the socket on, I'll make the event porch socket B on
Delay 180 seconds
Porch socket B off

This is a well placed PIR for a front door light
I'm going to make an event that will turn on my front security light with the google dusk setting for 2 minutes , when I get the front light back on.

If you have a Philips hue set up you can make the lights flash when someone calls, handy for a loud TV or for the hard of hearing

You can log entries to a Google sheet, it's basic enough but you might as well do it and turn off notifications, might come in handy some day, I've yet to so it though.

I cant think of many more decent FTTT Applets now but this works very well with the ones I tired, I don't have a smart lock to utilise these features


To watch out for

This needs a good WiFi signal, not always available outside. I bought a Google onhub and it's fantastic, but my trend long range router did the job too. I wouldn't like to see this on a basic ISP router unless it was close to it.
Test this first

It won't record to a local drive, network, different cloud location

That's it, straight forward.

Over all you are getting a lot for your money here, a camera , intercom, PIR etc,

On the funny side one of your first videos will be you biting your tongue trying to clip the bell into its holder.

Graham

Stoner wrote: »

You can't open the camera view from the app it needs the bell to be pressed or motion to be detected

Live view is enabled out of the box on the Ring Pro, I understand it can be enabled for a non-battery powered install Ring original.

Stoner

Bang on I'll change that. I'd picked that up from forums ,

Stoner

I've the ring motion detection triggering a hue lamp to flash. It's been slow on IFTTT

Graham

Stoner wrote: »

I've the ring motion detection triggering a hue lamp to flash. It's been slow on IFTTT

Finally got my Ring Pro installed over the weekend, not a bad piece of kit at all.

Not attempted any integrations yet Stoner, keep the updates coming

Stoner

I've the motion detector switching on a lightwaverf socket.

But on Philips hue, I have to have the light fitting turned on for it to flicker the lamp

Tbh it's just a great bit of kit and it can double as a pir for security lighting

fasterbetter

Bought the original Ring doorbell when it went to STG129 in Amazon last week
Got it at the weekend and installed it
All very straightforward so far,.....as they say.."does what it says on the tin"

Pros

Very fast to respond (I do have decent internet 80Mbps/2Mbps Eir)
Camera angle is very wide angle so even though mounted well to the left of the door I can see people at the door very well
I think the 30 dollar a year is well worth it for the cloud recording option


Cons
there is a lag when you go into live view
Looks like the ring classic will not be Apple Homekit compatible which is where I would like to head to eventually


so far so good!

faster better

Cyrus

hi all

im interested in getting a ring pro doorbell

house is a new build with an existing doorbell installed if that makes any difference.

i understand that they dont officially sell them in europe but that they can be made work easily enough?

OU812

They're in Currys, also available online.

Cyrus

ring pro not the standard ring ?

fasterbetter

I don't think the Ring Pro is launched in Ireland (or UK) yet. It doesn't have the built in battery of the "classic" model so needs a bell transformer to work and I think there is some issue with the voltage needing to be 12v rather than the usual 24v found over here.

Presumably they will issue a modified version in the coming months.

They have a UK twitter account where the occasional update is issued.

I bought the classic myself for STG129 on Amazon and am very pleased with it so far...picture quality is fine for someone at the door. Its a little bulky if space is at a premium. But so far it has worked 100% as expected.

OU812

Cyrus wrote: »

ring pro not the standard ring ?

Yup. They have both types on a stand in Airside (saw them Saturday )

OU812

fasterbetter wrote: »

I bought the classic myself for STG129 on Amazon and am very pleased with it so far.../QUOTE]

Does it use the existing internal chime if someone presses it?

bk

Lots of great info about Ring, including getting the Pro to work in Ireland in the Ring FAQ written by Stoner here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057668769

Davy

OU812 wrote: »

fasterbetter wrote: »

I bought the classic myself for STG129 on Amazon and am very pleased with it so far.../QUOTE]

Does it use the existing internal chime if someone presses it?

It can be set to ring internal chime, wireless chime or both.

When set to both the chimes ring slightly apart which is a bit annoying. For the pro a good broadband connection is vital!! When it disconnects it requires the front cover to be removed, and then re-added using new setup process which is very annoying.

The app is a lot better now that it was at the beginning.

bk

Davy wrote: »

When it disconnects it requires the front cover to be removed, and then re-added using new setup process which is very annoying.

Do you mean that every time your broadband or wifi goes down, that you have to remove it and set it all up again?

I hope not, if true, I think it would kill it for me in terms of reliability.

Graham

bk wrote: »

Do you mean that every time your broadband or wifi goes down, that you have to remove it and set it all up again?

I hope not, if true, I think it would kill it for me in terms of reliability.

Can honestly say that's not been my experience of the Pro. It remains firmly connected to WiFi at the other end of the worlds dodgiest 3G broadband connection.

Stoner

Graham wrote:

Can honestly say that's not been my experience of the Pro. It remains firmly connected to WiFi at the other end of the worlds dodgiest 3G broadband connection.

It has not been my experience with the standard either although I read it was .

I've my bb on and off regularly.

Regarding the voltages issues, its covered correctly on the FAQ but a little off here

We use 12V
Ring standard uses 12-24V
Ring pro uses 16-24V

So you'd need to change the bell traffo to a 16 or 24 volt unit.

It's a job for an electrician

Graham

I'm using a 12v transformer for my Pro (as are others). No issues at all but the fact I have no external bell/chime may help.

Cyrus

What chime do you use graham ?

Stoner

Graham wrote:

I'm using a 12v transformer for my Pro (as are others). No issues at all but the fact I have no external bell/chime may help.

That won't help. The load from the chime is only present when the button is pressed.

The recommended voltage is 16 Vdc or higher.

The power requirement for this unit is higher than the standard it has faster wifi connections and produces higher definition video plus it has no battery to fall back on.

I suspect that it could well work fine, but also I wouldn't ignore the manufacturers take on this, they believe it enough not to market the unit in Europe.

When you have a power requirement it's met by voltage x current. If you supply it with less voltage it will still need that same power, so it draws more current, more current can, overtime damage components that are not rated to carry it.

I spent a few months years ago working on a similar issue with a Philips device. The grid range was 170-220 V. The device was rated for 185-250V.

When supplied with 180V the unit "worked " but not perfectly, they also developed issues over time as the continued impact of overheating current stressed the components to the point of early failure.

I'd be fairly sure that if the manufacturer recommended 16V than the unit failed some QC tests while operating below that, otherwise they'd happily sell it as working at 12V.

Anyway if it's working so be it. It's not a massive cost to replace these, bit of a risk, but an electrician wont fit a 16V traffo for free either.

fasterbetter

I see that the UK twitter account is saying as of yesterday that it will be available in the UK before Christmas complete with any adaptors needed for use in UK.

So it will be interesting to see if the version they launch will be in any way different from a power requirement perspective.

@ring_uk

jester77

Can these be easily disassembled?

I have a custom doorbell setup that is built into a plaque that has a bell integrated into it. Do you think it would it be possible to just strip the ring doorbell from its casing and wire it to use the button in the plaque and drill a hole for the camera? Unfortunately I can't just removed the plaque as it would leave a hole in the wall and the ring door bell would not be anywhere large enough to cover it.

fasterbetter

Virtually impossible to disassemble (the classic one anyway). Lithium battery in the middle and a circuit board that makes connections to the backplate to which the Transformer wires are connected.

The "pro" being a lot smaller and without a battery might be easier but I've never seen one in the flesh

Stoner

fasterbetter wrote:

So it will be interesting to see if the version they launch will be in any way different from a power requirement perspective.

It will, if Graham and others have it working away on 12V there might be zero difference.

beanian

Now available in the UK :D
https://twitter.com/ring_uk/status/811599408261263360

Cyrus

mine has been delivered already got a free solar sign and 15% off aswell but cant find the code now

beanian

How did you order it? I dont see a specific UK variant on the website? Did you have to ship via Parcel Motel/Wizard?

Cyrus

beanian wrote: »

How did you order it? I dont see a specific UK variant on the website? Did you have to ship via Parcel Motel/Wizard?

Used parcel wizard

Came up as a sterling price

beanian

I'm not seeing that at all. Gives me a dollar price and there is no distinction that it is the new UK version

Cyrus

beanian wrote: »

I'm not seeing that at all. Gives me a dollar price and there is no distinction that it is the new UK version

clear your cookies maybe? took me a while also

Graham

beanian wrote: »

I'm not seeing that at all. Gives me a dollar price and there is no distinction that it is the new UK version

Would there be any difference between a US and UK version? Ring Pro doesn't come with a power supply so that's one of the biggest differences removed. Maybe the WiFi frequencies would need changing, not sure on that.

jester77

Do these have a wide angled lens. My current door bell is a plaque, think I'll have to get a new plaque and put this door bell onto the plaque, but the plaque is about a 2 feet to the right of the door, would the camera angle be enough?

GreenFolder2

I don't think doorbell voltage is standardised. It's usually just a convention. These circuits were never envisaged to supply anything other than a bell.

You'll find some old 220V mains doorbells in France with a press button that looks more like a light switch.

In general 12 or 24V seems to be the norm.

Graham

jester77 wrote: »

Do these have a wide angled lens. My current door bell is a plaque, think I'll have to get a new plaque and put this door bell onto the plaque, but the plaque is about a 2 feet to the right of the door, would the camera angle be enough?

Fairly wide, the Ring Pro lens is 160 degrees horizontal, 100 degrees vertical.

Graham

GreenFolder2 wrote: »

In general 12 or 24V seems to be the burn.

Ring Pro needs 16v - 24v, I have it working on a 12v without issue.

Uriel.

I only have a battery powered wifi door bell at the moment, don't have a hardwired bell. I have a roof over front door with a gu10 bulb.. Could the ring pro be wired using the power source from this light? I don't fancy drilling holes in internal walls etc

noel100

Uriel. wrote: »

I only have a battery powered wifi door bell at the moment, don't have a hardwired bell. I have a roof over front door with a gu10 bulb.. Could the ring pro be wired using the power source from this light? I don't fancy drilling holes in internal walls etc

You need a transformer to provide 16-24v to power a ring pro not sure on the ring with the built in battery.

Stoner

noel100 wrote:

You need a transformer to provide 16-24v to power a ring pro not sure on the ring with the built in battery.

They supposedly run for 4 months off a charge, although live view won't run on battery

beanian

Finally got the Ring Pro ordered (using Tunnel Bear). I have it sitting in the house waiting on a sparks to install it.
Quick question for anyone that has one installed, how fast are the motion alerts via IFTTT?
I'm thinking of having a rule that when it detects motion turn on an outdoor light. Not sure how fast the Ring Pro->IFTTT->Home Assistant->Hue interaction will be, IFTTT being the obvious bottleneck

OU812

Anyone know the width of the ring unit? Have limited space it can fit into.

beanian

Standard Ring: 4.98 x 2.43 x 0.87 inches

Ring Pro: 4.5 x 1.85 x 0.80 inches

Davy

OU812 wrote: »

Anyone know the width of the ring unit? Have limited space it can fit into.

Just want to highlight the setup button is on the left hand side of the unit under the cover.

If you have limited space this may be a factor which could mean you have to take it off the wall every time you need to press it.

beanian

beanian wrote: »

how fast are the motion alerts via IFTTT?
I'm thinking of having a rule that when it detects motion turn on an outdoor light.

To answer my own question on this the delay I'm getting is pretty dire, anywhere from 30-70 seconds which makes it useless for my intended purpose unfortunately.
Anyone else seeing this delay? My wifi signal is strong beside the doorbell and the ring otherwise works perfectly

Stoner

beanian wrote:

To answer my own question on this the delay I'm getting is pretty dire, anywhere from 30-70 seconds which makes it useless for my intended purpose unfortunately. Anyone else seeing this delay? My wifi signal is strong beside the doorbell and the ring otherwise works perfectly

A lot of IFTTT responses take this long, I have 5 seconds to 30 minutes in some cases

beanian

Stoner wrote: »

A lot of IFTTT responses take this long, I have 5 seconds to 30 minutes in some cases

Thats shocking and completely negates the integration with IFTTT as the events the ring fires are all time sensitive.

I have had better luck with this unofficial API (https://github.com/jeroenmoors/php-ring-api), it detects motion within 3-ish seconds. Just need to figure out how to integrate it with Home Assistant, should be straight forward enough

Del2005

beanian wrote: »

To answer my own question on this the delay I'm getting is pretty dire, anywhere from 30-70 seconds which makes it useless for my intended purpose unfortunately.
Anyone else seeing this delay? My wifi signal is strong beside the doorbell and the ring otherwise works perfectly

Considering how cheap PIR lights are would it not be better just to fit one? I know this is a home automation forum but you seem to want to make something simple complicated for the sake of using the automation.

Stoner

beanian wrote:

I have had better luck with this unofficial API (

I'm messing around there myself. Although the one IFTTT ring applet I use ( boosting wifi to the door bell when called) works very well. Most of my commands work within 10 seconds

mikeyb

Hi,

anyone care to provide a link to an appropriate transformer on Amazon for the Ring Pro? Here's the results from a search on Amazon for transformers 16-24v. Just not sure which one to go for. Does the transformer power output matter?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=16-24v+transformer&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A16-24v+transformer

I just bought a Pro from the States but I need the transformer (existing one is 8VAC) to install it,

cheers,

Mike

OU812

Apart from 720p vs 1080p, whats the big advantage of the pro? it seems to have a lesser field of view & require a transformer.

beanian

mikeyb wrote: »

Hi,

anyone care to provide a link to an appropriate transformer on Amazon for the Ring Pro? Here's the results from a search on Amazon for transformers 16-24v. Just not sure which one to go for. Does the transformer power output matter?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=16-24v+transformer&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A16-24v+transformer

I just bought a Pro from the States but I need the transformer (existing one is 8VAC) to install it,

cheers,

Mike

This looks pretty close to the one i received. It's a 230v->24v transformer
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Din-Rail-supply-230VAC-suitable-Strips/dp/B01NAJER9K/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1484060495&sr=8-5&keywords=230v+16-24v+transformer