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Norwegian Air Discussion

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    #1442
    zell12
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    Yes.


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    #1443
    Locker10a
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    jjbrien wrote: »
    Do you think its safe to book with Norwegian for September with all the news of their money problems?

    It’s hard to say, they’ve received financing for I think the first half of 2019. After that who knows, they’ll probably be fine but may be bought out or have a serious culling of routes and aircraft if things don’t improve


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    #1444
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,980 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    jjbrien wrote: »
    Do you think its safe to book with Norwegian for September with all the news of their money problems?

    With a credit card, you can charge back if a seller goes bust, with a debit card you can't.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #1445
    nsa0bupkd3948x
    Closed Accounts Posts: 783 ✭✭✭nsa0bupkd3948x


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    jjbrien wrote: »
    Do you think its safe to book with Norwegian for September with all the news of their money problems?

    With a credit card, you can charge back if a seller goes bust, with a debit card you can't.

    Are you sure about that? I've done plenty of chargeback a on debit cards


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    #1446
    basill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭basill


    Getting back your money is one thing. Trying to find a replacement ticket for a comparable price at short notice is another matter.


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    #1447
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Breanna Freezing Fisherman wrote: »
    Are you sure about that? I've done plenty of chargeback a on debit cards

    Have you done it from a company which has gone bust though?

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #1448
    Fred78
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Fred78


    jjbrien wrote: »
    Do you think its safe to book with Norwegian for September with all the news of their money problems?
    Definitely yes...and this is inside info...i work for them...all this info before xmas was only media speculation!!


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    #1449
    L1011
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Have you done it from a company which has gone bust though?

    Legal protection is identical - on Irish cards. Its not normal to be the same in other countries

    I would always recommend using an actual credit card from an actual bank for booking travel, not debit cards, prepaid or online bank cards.


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    #1450
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,980 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Didn't know that. I do know that there is a difference between debit and credit cards in the UK.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #1451
    Limpy
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    Just to add I flew Shannon to Stewart back in November. I was very happy with the service and will use them again. I hope they keep operation as its a great option if you want no frills travel at a good price.

    If Aer Lingus didn't have such high prices to book a 1 way long haul flight I would use them for suitable dates. They are not alone but I hope this will change in the future.


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    #1452
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/reuters-america-update-1-norwegian-air-to-shut-some-bases-and-axe-routes-to-cut-costs.html

    Did I read this correctly? Providence and Stewart bases to be dropped by Norwegian? How does this affect Dublin?


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    #1453
    Shn99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    ongarboy wrote: »
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/reuters-america-update-1-norwegian-air-to-shut-some-bases-and-axe-routes-to-cut-costs.html

    Did I read this correctly? Providence and Stewart bases to be dropped by Norwegian? How does this affect Dublin?

    Irish routes are safe
    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1023693/?__twitter_impression=true


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    #1454
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    With a credit card, you can charge back if a seller goes bust, with a debit card you can't.

    I think only within 120 days


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    #1455
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Irish routes are safe
    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1023693/?__twitter_impression=true


    But the article on CNBC says they are shutting their bases at Providence and Stewart


    The airliner will close its bases in Palma de Mallorca, Gran Canaria, and Tenerife in Spain, as well as in Stewart and Providence in the United States. It would also shut the 737 base at Rome's Fiumicino airport but keep its Dreamliner base there.


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    #1456
    Jamie2k9
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    kub wrote: »
    But the article on CNBC says they are shutting their bases at Providence and Stewart


    The airliner will close its bases in Palma de Mallorca, Gran Canaria, and Tenerife in Spain, as well as in Stewart and Providence in the United States. It would also shut the 737 base at Rome's Fiumicino airport but keep its Dreamliner base there.

    They have staff based in Dublin...


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    #1457
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,509 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    kub wrote: »
    The airliner will close its bases in Palma de Mallorca, Gran Canaria, and Tenerife in Spain, as well as in Stewart and Providence in the United States. It would also shut the 737 base at Rome's Fiumicino airport but keep its Dreamliner base there.

    From what I heard, the base in SWF is manned by a contract company, not sure about the other bases you mention if they even have any staff there...probably not, apart from FCO perhaps.


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    #1458
    Limpy
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    It says flights in and out of Ireland not affected. The last thing this Airline needs is potential customers worried they will pull flights


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    #1459
    Locker10a
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    Limpy wrote: »
    It says flights in and out of Ireland not affected. The last thing this Airline needs is potential customers worried they will pull flights

    The Dublin base will essentially close in September, when it will be reduced to 1 aircraft based


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    #1460
    Limpy
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    Locker10a wrote: »
    The Dublin base will essentially close in September, when it will be reduced to 1 aircraft based


    Pulling routes is OK once the flights are not out for sale. It's a no brainer reducing the flights as they were half full. I hope this will steady the ship.


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    #1461
    Locker10a
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    Limpy wrote: »
    Pulling routes is OK once the flights are not out for sale. It's a no brainer reducing the flights as they were half full. I hope this will steady the ship.

    With 1 aircraft over the winter, and no US based crew/aircraft for the Irish routes it will be a very bare bones schedule from Ireland this winter, couple of flights a week at best


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    #1462
    Tenzor07
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    Locker10a wrote: »
    The Dublin base will essentially close in September, when it will be reduced to 1 aircraft based

    Where was your source for that? Closure Sept. 2019?


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    #1463
    Locker10a
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    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Where was your source for that? Closure Sept. 2019?

    It won’t fully close, it will be decimated to 1 aircraft. Source is internal


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    #1464
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    i have used them a fair bit as where they fly in new york is handy for work. I have to book a few flights for next August & September,if they go belly up will i get a refund or is it a case of to bad?


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    #1465
    IngazZagni
    Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    I imagine the Cork and Shannon flights will very likely get the chop from mid September too.


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    #1466
    Tenzor07
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    Locker10a wrote: »
    It won’t fully close, it will be decimated to 1 aircraft. Source is internal

    Ah ok, i'm sure that 1 aircraft will disappear also.. And with Brexit they are really in serious trouble...


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    #1467
    basill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭basill


    They are in serious trouble as their business model is flawed and yields are poor.


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    #1468
    theguzman
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    basill wrote: »
    They are in serious trouble as their business model is flawed and yields are poor.

    So many companies have tried and failed down through the years, you can't really do Low Cost Long Haul and Norwegian are not really low-cost if you add on baggage etc. and you figure in the additional transportation costs from Stewart also compared to the closer Proximity of Newark and JFK to New York; its popular with the price conscious Irish immigrants there but I wonder how they make money really.


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    #1469
    ISOP
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭ISOP


    its cheaper to get to Manhattan from Stewart than from JFK


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    #1470
    Donegal Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Would anyone advise booking with them at the moment? Looking at flights to Boston during the summer and Providence is tempting

    As an aside TAP are giving me some great deals routing through LIS this summer, has a layover obviously but some of the extra price conscious market that Norwegian target might be swayed..


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    #1471
    Locker10a
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    Donegal Storm wrote: »
    Would anyone advise booking with them at the moment? Looking at flights to Boston during the summer and Providence is tempting

    As an aside TAP are giving me some great deals routing through LIS this summer, has a layover obviously but some of the extra price conscious market that Norwegian target might be swayed..
    It will probably be ok for the summer, but I wouldn’t be surprised if schedules change or are altered/cut more between now and then


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