Dairy chit chat II

Dwag

Mooooo wrote: »

He's milking in a dessert in the Middle East if I'm not mistaken

Lol, same, only desert on the fringe of Western Europe.

I could do with a herd of proper cows like that.
Anathema to you lot..

Dwag

Off now to attend to irrigation. Gets debilitating when you're on your own.

Scale...!

I've two pricks that have taken Tuesday off as blood bank are taking deposits...entitled to the day off...after the fifth bank holiday weekend in a row...Lovely.
There's a sewer blocked...job for them on wed morning.... what goes around...


May is a nightmare month with work on, and gobshytes taking the p1ss.

Blazing a trail here, so I am.

tanko

You mustn't be paying them enough:rolleyes:

Dwag

tanko wrote: »

You mustn't be paying them enough:rolleyes:

Sure.

Maybe you should come over here and implement a change of culture. I'm confident you could...walk in the park...

Lemmy guess...your a part timer that's undervalued...or maybe even exploited?

tanko

No bother, if you swap me an acre of your place for every acre i have here i'll be over next week with the sucklers.

Mooooo

Dwag wrote: »

Off now to attend to irrigation. Gets debilitating when you're on your own.

Scale...!

I've two pricks that have taken Tuesday off as blood bank are taking deposits...entitled to the day off...after the fifth bank holiday weekend in a row...Lovely.
There's a sewer blocked...job for them on wed morning.... what goes around...


May is a nightmare month with work on, and gobshytes taking the p1ss.

Blazing a trail here, so I am.

Irrigating myself at the min in cork, just looking for thelayimg hen

C0N0R

Dwag wrote: »

Xbred? Kiwi cross or jex?

High Ebi Britain Frisian!

kevthegaff wrote: »

C0N0R wrote:

Cow 6263 1722 days in milk Calved 8 September 2012 Yesterday 54.9 litres Peak 79.2 litres Yield this lactation 77943 litres.

Are they on hormones

Nope no hormones used, that cow is the exception not the norm obviously!

Dwag wrote: »

Off now to attend to irrigation. Gets debilitating when you're on your own.

Scale...!

I've two pricks that have taken Tuesday off as blood bank are taking deposits...entitled to the day off...after the fifth bank holiday weekend in a row...Lovely.
There's a sewer blocked...job for them on wed morning.... what goes around...


May is a nightmare month with work on, and gobshytes taking the p1ss.

Blazing a trail here, so I am.

You want to try when half your staff are observing Ramadan!

Brown Podzol

Mooooo wrote: »

Dairygold don't test for it at all

They do. Your milk adviser will have them to hand.

Keepgrowing

Dwag wrote: »

Off now to attend to irrigation. Gets debilitating when you're on your own.

Scale...!

I've two pricks that have taken Tuesday off as blood bank are taking deposits...entitled to the day off...after the fifth bank holiday weekend in a row...Lovely.
There's a sewer blocked...job for them on wed morning.... what goes around...


May is a nightmare month with work on, and gobshytes taking the p1ss.

Blazing a trail here, so I am.

How do other business operate during this time. How do hospitals, trains, police etc operate?

Do you not have a roster for each month?

rangler1

Keepgrowing wrote: »

How do other business operate during this time. How do hospitals, trains, police etc operate?

Plenty of staff around, it's ironic that you mention PS jobs,
They don't really, I hear of Vets that go back after maternity leave to find no job

kowtow

C0N0R wrote: »

High Ebi Britain Frisian!



Nope no hormones used, that cow is the exception not the norm obviously!




You want to try when half your staff are observing Ramadan!

What I used to love was the second Eid holiday of the year - which where we lived was determined by lunar observation, and could therefore fall on one or two (maybe three?) days depending on when the crescent was visible at Mecca.

We'd know - therefore - that a public holiday was going to fall at some point during the week but we couldn't be certain which day. Meetings, flights, travel deals even were all agreed "subject to Eid".. nothing got done until the moon was sighted.

Keepgrowing

kowtow wrote: »

What I used to love was the second Eid holiday of the year - which where we lived was determined by lunar observation, and could therefore fall on one or two (maybe three?) days depending on when the crescent was visible at Mecca.

We'd know - therefore - that a public holiday was going to fall at some point during the week but we couldn't be certain which day. Meetings, flights, travel deals even were all agreed "subject to Eid".. nothing got done until the moon was sighted.

Bit like Easter except we've a bit more notice

stanflt

Dwag wrote: »

Sure.

Maybe you should come over here and implement a change of culture. I'm confident you could...walk in the park...

Lemmy guess...your a part timer that's undervalued...or maybe even exploited?

Any chance of a start dawg??? Young and eager!!!!

alps

Timmaay wrote: »

Got one lady here who is a hangover from our pure ho days, she calved in Feb 2015 and not again till April this year! But milk recorded about 14kl over them 2yrs, and flat rate fed like the rest of the cows and no issues that I can remember over that time. Still in good shape now for a 10yr old cow and has been served again. Cows like her are the exception, but she has certainly proven very profitable over the last 2yrs despite her alone adding about 4 days onto the CI here ha! Obviously this only works because I don't switch off over the winter I'll admit!

Timmaay.. Ive a feeling that roll over cows like this one are not included in the calculation of your calving interval. Someone with better knowledge here might be able to confirm..

stanflt

alps wrote: »

Timmaay.. Ive a feeling that roll over cows like this one are not included in the calculation of your calving interval. Someone with better knowledge here might be able to confirm..

They are

mf240

Got the icbf report in the post. All five stars at the top and all one stars at the bottom. Tis mad ted

Dwag

Keepgrowing wrote: »

How do other business operate during this time. How do hospitals, trains, police etc operate?

Do you not have a roster for each month?

Rostered for 6mts in advance but they constantly use every trick in the book to get free hours/days off, like the old blood donation trick. The blood bank take donations until 9pm...the law says that a worker can organise hols with 2weeks notice...constantly throwing sickies when garden needs attention etc etc

35hr week was used as a means to lower unemployment but it has backfired on the country. One presidential candidate campaigned on a 48hr week...needless to say he wasn't very successful.

Ps etc are very well staffed indeed.

Dwag

stanflt wrote: »

Any chance of a start dawg??? Young and eager!!!!

Load up the herd and come on to feck!

I'd be interested to see your girls v mine...

Dwag

tanko wrote: »

No bother, if you swap me an acre of your place for every acre i have here i'll be over next week with the sucklers.

If your place is worth €1k/ac you'd be able to do your own business.

yewtree

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/diversification-helps-hedge-against-volatile-milk-prices/

Seen this on agriland, pure click bait no figures provided. We rightly complain about fj at times at least they wouldn't publish this nonsense

visatorro

yewtree wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/diversification-helps-hedge-against-volatile-milk-prices/

Seen this on agriland, pure click bait no figures provided. We rightly complain about fj at times at least they wouldn't publish this nonsense

He got the sheep to pay for the robot

jaymla627

yewtree wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/diversification-helps-hedge-against-volatile-milk-prices/

Seen this on agriland, pure click bait no figures provided. We rightly complain about fj at times at least they wouldn't publish this nonsense

Their is a good point been made though about having alternative income streams, extending calf shed to cater for a extra 20 calves for next spring going to keep 20 bb/fleck heifers and put incalf to a easy calving aubrac bull and have to sell as incalf heifers, they"ll come into a nice ball of cash at a time of the year when cashflow is fairly non-existent.....
Of course theirs a arguement to load on more cows instead of going this route but am nearly at max cow numbers for what I can handle labour/facilities wise and will be nice to have a few beefier ladies around the farm again as ran sucklers before getting into dairying

mahoney_j

jaymla627 wrote: »

Their is a good point been made though about having alternative income streams, extending calf shed to cater for a extra 20 calves for next spring going to keep 20 bb/fleck heifers and put incalf to a easy calving aubrac bull and have to sell as incalf heifers, they"ll come into a nice ball of cash at a time of the year when cashflow is fairly non-existent.....
Of course theirs a arguement to load on more cows instead of going this route but am nearly at max cow numbers for what I can handle labour/facilities wise and will be nice to have a few beefier ladies around the farm again as ran sucklers before getting into dairying

Very much along lines ofcwhat I'm doing ,great alternative source of income as u said

yewtree

The guy has reduced cow numbers by 100 and to replace this income he has sold 100 lambs and got into sucklers.
There are absolutely no figures on how he managed this, the article has no substance.
This isn't alternative revenue as he has slashed existing revenue.
Are you suggesting you could cut existing cow numbers by half and replace the income from drystock?

mahoney_j

yewtree wrote: »

The guy has reduced cow numbers by 100 and to replace this income he has sold 100 lambs and got into sucklers.
There are absolutely no figures on how he managed this, the article has no substance.
This isn't alternative revenue as he has slashed existing revenue.
Are you suggesting you could cut existing cow numbers by half and replace the income from drystock?

Not for a second ,but in a bad milk price year or maby anybyear it's great to have extra assets other than the milk cheque to keep the ship sailing

yewtree

There is a valid point about additional revenue streams,it's more the article annoyed me there is never any detail on agriland always seems to over simplify topics or looking for a headline

Buckmickley

As long as there's no cross subsidisation between enterprises
It's a very stupid idea to prop one up with another unless one will and does usually make money but is having a bad year
In which case the cross subsidy should be a repayable loan

The part time boy

I will light this fuse .........

Dairy farmers that keep cattle in case of bad year or for cash low in low milk months.

Would they be not better off with better cash flow management and have a reserve fund for the bad year.

Always like the saying I heard once

One farmer said "sure have a few cattle is a good way to keep a bit of money together" . Another farmer said "sure so is a elastic band "

jaymla627

The part time boy wrote: »

I will light this fuse .........

Dairy farmers that keep cattle in case of bad year or for cash low in low milk months.

Would they be not better off with better cash flow management and have a reserve fund for the bad year.

Always like the saying I heard once

One farmer said "sure have a few cattle is a good way to keep a bit of money together" . Another farmer said "sure so is a elastic band "

In a good year the tax man will be taking half of it before it gets into your rainy day fund, have ground and sheds away from milking platform that are handy for it too

kowtow

A lot would depend on the farm in question.

It's an obvious hedging technique.. but not without costs. Those costs are (1) any additional capital (2) any additional labour / complexity (3) the loss of scale in the dairy enterprise...

If you had the facilities already (on an out-farm perhaps), had reached some sort of optimum sweet spot (1 robots worth of cows? 1 man's worth?) at a perfect stocking rate on the milking platform.... it makes a good deal of sense...

The downside is getting caught up to your neck in three different enterprises none of which you are able to really get on top of and all of which supply commodity markets. And the original article is wrong - or at least is simplifying to the point of stupidity - in saying that these markets don't travel together. They do, in the medium and longer term cycles. All agricultural produce is cheap today relative to it's value a couple of generations ago, and all agricultural inputs - most especially land - are very expensive indeed.

Having said all that I love the idea of the properly integrated mixed farm from a farming perspective, particularly if the customer is willing to pay to become a part of the story.