Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

CatFromHue

Bayless doesn't say anything bad about UFC or McGregor there.

Burial.

If Bayless gets the nod and does a premature stoppage after Conor gets into trouble it'll be hilarious.

Gamebred

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVo2rnvBGLH/?taken-by=kongevents


This shows his love for dough, hes probably making about 50k to show up to this, earning 100m weeks earlier so stuff like this leads me to believes he gonna return to mma.

Lukker-

He's gonna return to the UFC with more bargaining power. He'll be looking for at least 15-20m show money for his return IMO.

Gamebred

I dont think McGregor will want to be travelling back and forward for one in Vegas so Floyd might come to europe first then Conor heads out to USA for rest of camp would be my guess.

martyos121

Gamebred wrote: »

https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/878226882604318720


wonder musta been on to the bald father

"UFC and boxing are two different sports" says he.

Anyone who refers to the UFC as a sport automatically invalidates any opinion they have on anything to do with MMA tbh.

EagererBeaver

Gamebred wrote: »

I dont think McGregor will want to be travelling back and forward for one in Vegas so Floyd might come to europe first then Conor heads out to USA for rest of camp would be my guess.

In all honesty, given the money he's making is largely down to Floyd (quite delicious irony that Floyd is making him rich the way he brags about doing to the other UFC "bums"), he'll pretty much do whatever he's told.

EagererBeaver

martyos121 wrote: »

"UFC and boxing are two different sports" says he.

Anyone who refers to the UFC as a sport automatically invalidates any opinion they have on anything to do with MMA tbh.

MMA is a new sport. It's not in fully in the mainstream and it is absolutely dominated by the UFC. Not being fully au fait with the terminology invalidates nothing. Tbh.

wonderfullife

Gamebred wrote: »

https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/878226882604318720


wonder musta been on to the bald father

Ha I actually did flag the issue a few days ago on Twitter with Audie Attar and messaged Dana on instagram moaning about Bayless!! I doubt Dana read it though just a coincidence :pac:

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ha I actually did flag the issue a few days ago on Twitter with Audie Attar and messaged Dana on instagram moaning about Bayless!! I doubt Dana read it though just a coincidence :pac:

What "issue" precisely were you flagging?

wonderfullife

EagererBeaver wrote: »

MMA is a new sport. It's not in fully in the mainstream and it is absolutely dominated by the UFC. Not being fully au fait with the terminology invalidates nothing. Tbh.

Any referee in any sport knows you don't make comments about either team/player/fighter because they have to be seen as completely impartial.

Kenny Bayless believing Conor doesn't belong in a boxing ring should immediately disqualify him. Let's say in Round 5 Conor is taking damage against the ropes and Kenny stops it early, there'd be allegations and controversy.

It has to be someone neutral ref'ing. Tony Weeks maybe.

Mean Laqueefa

martyos121

EagererBeaver wrote: »

MMA is a new sport. It's not in fully in the mainstream and it is absolutely dominated by the UFC. Not being fully au fait with the terminology invalidates nothing. Tbh.

No I disagree, the sport has evolved quite a bit in the last two years and even the likes of McGregor are more often being referred to as mixed martial artists rather than UFC fighters, because there's a wider understanding of things. Also, most people aren't so thick that they can't distinguish between a company and a sport, and those that do like Kenny Bayless (disregarding his acumen as a top level boxing referee, credit where it's due) should not be giving opinions on the likes of this when (a) he seemingly doesn't know what the UFC actually is or how it's different from the sport of MMA and (b) he might actually have to referee this crossover event. Yes I'm nitpicking but it's a fcuking bonehead mistake to make these days, we should be well past this.

hewhoscares

Dashon Johnson hired as a sparring partner for McGregor. One of the best 'journeymen' in boxing today. He's even fought in the UFC as well. 

http://boxrec.com/boxer/446605

Was used by Pac as well before his Mayweather fight.

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

Any referee in any sport knows you don't make comments about either team/player/fighter because they have to be seen as completely impartial.

Kenny Bayless believing Conor doesn't belong in a boxing ring should immediately disqualify him. Let's say in Round 5 Conor is taking damage against the ropes and Kenny stops it early, there'd be allegations and controversy.

It has to be someone neutral ref'ing. Tony Weeks maybe.

Sure you've already disqualified the idea of any "shenanigans" multiple times so why would you give a ****e?

wonderfullife

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Sure you've already disqualified the idea of any "shenanigans" multiple times so why would you give a ****e?

An early stoppage because a ref has a pre-conceived idea of something isn't "shenanigans" it's just grossly unfair.

For example, if John McCarthy came out and said/hinted "CM Punk should not be sanctioned, this is stupid" and then ref'd a CM Punk fight, he might be inclined to stop the contest earlier than normal based on that preconception.

It'd be human nature if you believe someone is crap to try save them from themselves earlier than someone you think might have the skill to alter their position.

That's not fair. If it's sanctioned you should apply the rules impartially. If the limit is 6 unanswered punches, it should be called off after 6 regardless if it's Punk or Wonderboy. You don't call it off after 3 because you're trying to save Punk.

Gamebred

Newshoesumunt wrote: »

Mmm you would need coding skills and an interest in coding for testing though.

IT Support can have very good prospects so not sure why fergald thinks it does not, sure your first job will be at the bottom and the pay won't be great but the same can be said for coding/testing.

Senior microsoft support can earn up to 60-80k, same goes for loads more companys. (VMWARE,Citrix etc.)

Staring of in IT support will also open up system admin, IT Manager, server field engineer etc.

If you don'y like coding I would go with IT Support, you can easily get up to 40K withing 3 to 4 years

Yeah but who'd win in a street fight with knives IT Support engineer or Coding expert?

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

Kenny Bayless believing Conor doesn't belong in a boxing ring should immediately disqualify him. Let's say in Round 5 Conor is taking damage against the ropes and Kenny stops it early, there'd be allegations and controversy..

Any referee believing he does belong in the ring would worry me more....

wonderfullife

Big John McCarthy:

"Floyd Mayweather is the greatest boxer of our generation, if he fights Conor in MMA I give him 0.001% to win if Floyd lands a very lucky punch. I also give the same odds and chance for Conor in this boxing match."

Continues:

"Trust me, Conor McGregor is the A-side. Floyd could not get this fight with literally anybody else to get this kind of payday right now. It will definitely break the PPV record".

Bruce Buffer:

"The biggest winners are the brothels. The Bunny Ranch have launched super-fight VIP packages for $100,000 which include 2 tickets and 2 girls".

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

Big John McCarthy:

Continues:

"Trust me, Conor McGregor is the A-side. Floyd could not get this fight with literally anybody else to get this kind of payday right now. It will definitely break the PPV record".

Is he taking the piss? I like him and respect his opinion but that just smacks of homerism. If he really wanted, Floyd could fight GGG and (especially if he beats Canelo) the money that would do wouldn't be too far short of what this fight will pay him. McGregor on the other hand has no other option. Boxing, MMA, sumo, it doesn't matter - Floyd will, unfortunately, always be the A side. Pretending otherwise is laughable.

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

Big John McCarthy:

"Floyd Mayweather is the greatest boxer of our generation, if he fights Conor in MMA I give him 0.001% to win if Floyd lands a very lucky punch. I also give the same odds and chance for Conor in this boxing match."

Continues:

"Trust me, Conor McGregor is the A-side. Floyd could not get this fight with literally anybody else to get this kind of payday right now. It will definitely break the PPV record".

Bruce Buffer:

"The biggest winners are the brothels. The Bunny Ranch have launched super-fight VIP packages for $100,000 which include 2 tickets and 2 girls".

The A-side? Conor wouldn't have a hope in hell of making this kind of money in MMA, he needs boxing and Mayweather for that.

wonderfullife

EagererBeaver wrote: »

If he really wanted, Floyd could fight GGG the money that would do wouldn't be too far short of what this fight will pay him.

Very silly and hugely wrong.

GGG's last PPV against Jacobs did 130,000 buys.

Floyd's last against Berto did 350,000.

GGG is not a draw and is virtually unknown in America. GGG v Canelo will only hit 1 million buys because of all the Canelo fans.

Floyd v GGG would struggle to do 1 million.

Conor v Floyd is projected to be over 5 million.

So, yes there would be $300-$400 million difference in revenue. Conor is the ONLY fighter in the world Floyd can hit these numbers with and the reverse is also true.

They are the Double-A-Side.

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

Very silly and hugely wrong.

GGG's last PPV against Jacobs did 130,000 buys.

Floyd's last against Berto did 350,000.

GGG is not a draw and is virtually unknown in America. GGG v Canelo will only hit 1 million buys because of all the Canelo fans.

Floyd v GGG would struggle to do 1 million.

Conor v Floyd is projected to be over 5 million.

So, yes there would be $300-$400 million difference in revenue. Conor is the ONLY fighter in the world Floyd can hit these numbers with and the reverse is also true.

They are the Double-A-Side.

How can you say that Floyd vs GGG would struggle to do 1 million?

A Canelo and Mayweather rematch would do pretty well I would imagine.

I still think the 5 million number is on the higher end of projection, it will be close to the numbers for Pac and Mayweather I would image. Mainly because I think the reality of this fight will dawn on more people as it goes on.

McGregor is the A-side in MMA, he is nothing in boxing.

wonderfullife

wonderfullife wrote: »

Very silly and hugely wrong.

GGG's last PPV against Jacobs did 130,000 buys.

Floyd's last against Berto did 350,000.

GGG is not a draw and is virtually unknown in America. GGG v Canelo will only hit 1 million buys because of all the Canelo fans.

Floyd v GGG would struggle to do 1 million.

Conor v Floyd is projected to be over 5 million.

So, yes there would be $300-$400 million difference in revenue. Conor is the ONLY fighter in the world Floyd can hit these numbers with and the reverse is also true.

They are the Double-A-Side.

I was about to respond similar to this. Floyd while he has done some good PPV numbers in the past has no one that would do massive PPVs now minus Conor. I think both Conor and Floyd both need each other to do very good PPV sales, there is no 'A side' both sides are equally important in this imo

wonderfullife

Gintonious wrote: »

How can you say that Floyd vs GGG would struggle to do 1 million?

A Canelo and Mayweather rematch would do pretty well I would imagine.

I still think the 5 million number is on the higher end of projection, it will be close to the numbers for Pac and Mayweather I would image. Mainly because I think the reality of this fight will dawn on more people as it goes on.

McGregor is the A-side in MMA, he is nothing in boxing.

Floyd isn't doing anywhere north of 2.5 million without Conor and Conor isn't doing it without Floyd.

Sure Conor might do 1.9m against GSP in a megafight and Floyd might do 2.2m in a Canelo rematch (doubtful though).

They need each other for *these* numbers. It's that simple.

Too Tough To Die

Deleted User wrote: »

I was about to respond similar to this. Floyd while he has done some good PPV numbers in the past has no one that would do massive PPVs now minus Conor. I think both Conor and Floyd both need each other to do very good PPV sales, there is no 'A side' both sides are equally important in this imo

They can't do these numbers without each other, but Mayweather is the A-side, and i'm sure the negotiations reflected that.

wonderfullife

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

They can't do these numbers without each other, but Mayweather is the A-side, and i'm sure the negotiations reflected that.

For sure. Floyd will be getting paid more and walking out second. That won't bother Conor he walked out first against Aldo and Alvarez.

But without each other they don't get close to these numbers. It's a co-dependency.

EagererBeaver

Lads this is beyond ridiculous. Floyd is the A side. End of. His purse, yes purse, for the Berto fight was 32m ffs. McGregor made 10% of that against Alvarez.

Wonder, I don't know if you're being deliberately disingenuous or just completely thick. Saying GGG sold A, Mayweather sold B, therefore they could make A+B happen is nonsense. Mayweather-GGG would do absolutely astronomical numbers. GGG is one of those most dominant, feared fighters in boxing, the biggest man Floyd would ever face and the biggest threat ever to him in a boxing ring. That sells. It would attract huge numbers. Perhaps (and probably) not Mayweather-Pac or Mayweather-McGregor numbers but it would be enormous. Pretending otherwise is lunacy. If it's a double A side, why is McGregor so content to let Floyd take the lion's share?

For the record, I don't think this will break the May-Pac numbers. 205 was supposed to break the UFC number and then ended up quite aways short of it.

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

For sure. Floyd will be getting paid more and walking out second. That won't bother Conor he walked out first against Aldo and Alvarez.

But without each other they don't get close to these numbers. It's a co-dependency.

Mayweather can have other fights that approach the number. Probably not equal or surpass but at least approach.

McGregor can't. It's simple.

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

For sure. Floyd will be getting paid more and walking out second. That won't bother Conor he walked out first against Aldo and Alvarez.

But without each other they don't get close to these numbers. It's a co-dependency.

Floyd Mayweather net worth is around $400+ million

Conor McGregor isn't even worth a 10th of that.

Co-dependant my arse.