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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    everlast75 wrote: »
    In addition, one of the major gripes I have with boxing is that you can and do pick all of your opponents. To that end, Mayweather only ever boxed at a time when he knew he could take his opponent. For example, he ducked and dodged Manni for years and only took him on when he was for all intents and purposes, past it.

    De la Hoya.
    Hatton
    Maidana
    Canelo
    Cotto
    Judah
    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Who?

    Ah no. Conor has far superior footwork, movement, reflexes and a better chin than Jeremy. If survival is the name of the game, then I'd back Conor to survive longer every time.

    It's a fight so anything can happen but I'd be very surprised if it doesn't go 9 rounds or above. That's surely backed up with the odds on it going 12 rounds, right now it's not far off a coin-flip odds wise. 11/8 it goes the distance.

    I dont think the odds are going with basic logic.

    Conors footwork in mma means nothing in boxing.

    Conor is fighting Floyd freaking Mayweather in boxing here, what exaclty are people missing here? Floyd is the best boxer of all time, Conor would probably lose in a straight up boxing competition v anyone in the top 500 in the rankings. Floyd will hit Conor at will and if Floyd wants to end it early he will. Just look at some of the boxers Floyd has finished before 9 rounds, these are all world class boxers.

    I am a MMA fan way more than I am a boxing fan. I am a Conor fan, I am not hating on anyone or anything, I just think the outcome is obvious provided everything is above board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Sweet Jesus, Floyd Mayweather is not the best boxer of all time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Senor Frog


    I dont think Floyd KOs him, I think its repeated punches and a ref stoppage. I dont think Floyd will flat line him or anything.

    Regarding what it should be priced at? Its hard to tell, this is a fight where the best of all time is fighting an amateur boxer...... that never happened before so its hard to tell. What chance would you give Jeremy Stevens v Floyd? I know Conor has better striking than Stevens but in actual proper boxing how much better is he actually? Holloway v Floyd? This fight ends when floyd wants it to in my opinion I do think Floyd lets it go for a few rounds to make the fight look like a real event.

    I'd give Stephens far less of a chance than McGregor , who I would give around 1% , Stephens has very decent power but his shots are telegraphed in comparison to McGregor.

    I agree with you , I think it's an accumulation of shots that causes the stoppage, most likely to the body , not a clean ko. The main thing for me in this fight is that McGregor has never fought anyone who can punch back in linked together combinations. I know Floyd is the defence king , but his offence is going to be too varied for McGregor, I just don't think he will have anywhere near the defensive ability to cover the body and head when Floyd decides to unload the combos in quick succession. These combos will have had an effect by round 6 I reckon and McGregor will be pulled out .

    So I would back Floyd by TKO 1-6 aswell if the price was right ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sweet Jesus, Floyd Mayweather is not the best boxer of all time.

    Its fairly subjective, but he is one of the best.

    Personally I think he is, but thats just me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Okay everybody shut up now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Joe Duffy would beat McG in boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Joe Duffy would beat McG in boxing.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Joe Duffy would beat McG in boxing.
    He has more experience in boxing, so probably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    darced wrote: »
    I'm a huge Duffy fan but no way he beats McGregor boxing, the difference in their hands is obvious in my opinion.

    But Joe Duffy has had 7 professional boxing matches, 7 wins, Conor has had zero.


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    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Duffy trained solely in boxing for like two years at one stage. Conors MMA striking seems way better but in Boxing I think Duffy takes him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Duffy trained solely in boxing for like two years at one stage. Conors MMA striking seems way better but in Boxing I think Duffy takes him

    Agree, the only real blip on Duffy has been Poirir been able to drag him to the floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    De la Hoya.
    Hatton
    Maidana
    Canelo
    Cotto
    Judah
    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo

    De La Hoya and Cotto were both past prime by that stage. He could and should have fought Cotto much sooner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    De La Hoya and Cotto were both past prime by that stage. He could and should have fought Cotto much sooner.

    De La Hoya was only 34 when they fought. And it was a great fight.

    I knew this type of argument was gonna crop up eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Okay everybody shut up now.


    Good video, cant beat a bit of Jack Slack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Gintonious wrote: »
    De La Hoya was only 34 when they fought. And it was a great fight.

    I knew this type of argument was gonna crop up eventually.

    Yes, a good 4 or 5 years past his prime. It was an intriguing fight, but from what i saw i think a younger De La Hoya would've edged him out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Yes, a good 4 or 5 years past his prime. It was an intriguing fight, but from what i saw i think a younger De La Hoya would've edged him out.

    Mayweather was calling de le hoya out for years chasing that fight . re the fight itself , De Le Hoya bluffed his way through it .

    Throwing nonsense Flurrys at the end of the rounds trying to rob them .

    He did have some success in a couple of rounds throwing his jab ( always had a great one ) however Floyd adjusted to it and was landing hard counter rights and Oscar stopped throwing it


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://www.facebook.com/portal.ido/videos/1564090726966235/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
    Looks like Conor is in good hands for this fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Gintonious wrote: »
    De La Hoya was only 34 when they fought. And it was a great fight.

    I knew this type of argument was gonna crop up eventually.

    He was a seasoned, if small-ish, middleweight by that stage. The arguement is about Mayweather playing it safe. There was nothing safe about fighting Oscar.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He was a seasoned, if small-ish, middleweight by that stage. The arguement is about Mayweather playing it safe. There was nothing safe about fighting Oscar.

    Also if I am not mistaken wasn't the hold up with the Manny fight that Manny wouldn't agree to strict drug testing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Yes, a good 4 or 5 years past his prime. It was an intriguing fight, but from what i saw i think a younger De La Hoya would've edged him out.

    And if my aunty had wheels, she'd be a wagon.

    He beat in a fair and square boxing fight. Simple as.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    I just think the outcome is obvious provided everything is above board.

    I really wish people would stop saying this (and I'm not directing this just at you :) )

    It's a sanctioned fight by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a start. If you *throw* a fight you're risking years in jail and losing your purse.

    Secondly, and far more importantly, there was $80 million gambled in Vegas on the Floyd-Manny fight. They are predicting $100 million gambled on this fight. There are a number of State and Federal Laws in play here and I'm not going to list all the Statutes on the books.

    But here's what you need to know:

    If Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor or anyone representing them behind the scenes even just said to each other: "let's take it handy here and just mess around for 12 rounds"...If that gets uncovered they will both go to prison for many years. There will be tens of millions bet on one man or the other winning by KO in certain rounds.

    If it's uncovered they defrauded the public out of $100 million in a State with harsh views on fraud and gambling fraud, they will both be wearing orange.

    It will be a normal ass boxing fight. If Floyd is so superior to Conor and dances around for 12 rounds, FINE. But the implication this fight won't be above board, that there might be collusion between the camps, is worthy of absolute scorn and derision.

    It's not going to be a scam/a fix/shenanigans/a rigged fight. A one-sided dance for Floyd? Probably but that's different :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭PhilipsR


    This thread is the worst it has ever been, and that's saying something!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    PhilipsR wrote: »
    This thread is the worst it has ever been, and that's saying something!

    I just think it's madness when there's respectable posters thinking Conor and Floyd might risk prison time in order to collude to put on a show.

    Frankly it's also very insulting to the professionalism of Floyd Mayweather. When Mickey Gall faced off CM Punk, he knew it was a joke opponent but he didn't mess around to try give fans an event. He cut through him and finished him.

    The suggestion Floyd might collude with Team McGregor and indulge in some skullduggery to let Conor land a few shots or win a few rounds is just ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Whats the point in paying a coach to come in? they've all had a crack the best of the best and couldnt formulate a plan to beat him so why bother,





    Rare footage of Floyd sparring, a southpaw too so hes preparing anyways.

    Just watched this back, the guy he was in there with maybe landed 1 or 2 jabs. Floyds right was on the money!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Just watched this back, the guy he was in there with maybe landed 1 or 2 jabs. Floyds right was on the money!


    Nah bro ive studied the tape if them jabs are from Conor he jabs Floyds head off his shoulders stop being a hater...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Gintonious wrote: »
    And if my aunty had wheels, she'd be a wagon.

    He beat in a fair and square boxing fight. Simple as.

    I never said any different, keep your wig on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Joe Duffy would beat McG in boxing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    We all know floyds traditional boxing is brilliant. But he's never faced someone that moves like conor. And I'm not saying conor is faster or a better boxer than previous opponents, just a different kind of mover. Something that floyd would never have faced before and wouldn't be used to. For instance, is mcgregor allowed superman punches or spinning backfists or other unorthodox punching methods??


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