Road issues that irritate me.......

railer201

RainyDay wrote: »

Far more motorists and far more pedestrians are killed and maimed on the road than cyclists. I really don't understand this fetish for 'cycle safety' from those who profess to be interested in road safety. If you care about road safety, the obvious priority is to get motorists to stop killing and maiming each other.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29878233

Starting with distance travelled, a cyclist travelling a mile in Great Britain is 15 times more likely to have a fatal accident than a car driver going the same distance.

Based on the time spent travelling, a cyclist is five times more likely to have a fatal accident than a car driver.

Now perhaps you might understand the 'fetish' as you put it. Distance or time has to be taken into account along with the number of journeys by each mode.

Cycling is less safe than driving - simple.

Pinch Flat

railer201 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29878233

Now perhaps you might understand the 'fetish' as you put it. Distance or time has to be taken into account along with the number of journeys by each mode.

Cycling is less safe than driving - simple.

According to an earlier poster cyclists pose a hazard on the road, and it's thanks to the diligence of drivers that many more aren't killed. Which is a pretty weird assertion to make. And given the similarities we have with the UK in terms of driving style and aggression, you might have different sets of statistics from some continental European countries where motorists don't seem to get their knickers in a twist over cyclists on the road.

Also from the link above:

"Rural roads have much higher average speeds than urban roads and the extra speed leads to worse accidents for cyclists."

I wonder what's the main factor in these accidents for cyclists - those cycling weaving all over the road and being hit by cars, or motorised vehicles hitting cyclists that are either passing too close, at excessive speeds and not accounting for the prevailing road conditions or otherwise distracted while driving?

Seth Brundle

Pinch Flat wrote: »

According to an earlier poster cyclists pose a hazard on the road, and it's thanks to the diligence of drivers that many more aren't killed. Which is a pretty weird assertion to make.

The assertion was a downright stupid one!
It is like saying how thankfully due to the responsible attitude of rapists more women aren't raped!

HellSquirrel

MadDog76 wrote: »

The majority of cyclists, from what I've personally seen on the roads on a daily basis, consistently pose a hazard to themselves as well as to other cyclists, motorists and pedestrians.

ISIS are a terrorist organisation who are responsible for the deaths of many innocent people ......... but that's a separate issue and has no bearing on the cyclist issue.

Drug dealers are responsible for spreading death in many communities .......... but that's a separate issue and has no bearing on the cyclist issue.

Drink driving is a selfish act that has caused many a tragedy on our roads ............ but that's a separate issue and has no bearing on the cyclist issue.

Dole scammers are annoying and have caused tax-payers to be financially squeezed even further than they already are .......... but that's a separate issue and has no bearing on the cyclist issue.

And so on ...........

..I've not followed this thread in a few days. Has it really managed to get dole scammers, drug dealers, drink drivers and -ISIS- into complaints about cyclists? I don't know whether to O.O or to nod wisely and say aloud "Yep, that's AH".

KwackerJack

Well this chap needs to sit his C1 again......seen this tonight.

Tried a u-turn only to get stuck then tries to reverse out of it!!

Trebor176

1. Motorist blocked the yellow box at the end of my estate this morning. I flashed and honked, and he gave me a look. I pointed to the yellow box, the traffic started to move, and he just stayed put still staring at me. I gestured for him to move, which he did do in the end. All this with two kids in the car, one being in the front. A great example to be setting them!

2. As I am merging on to the M50 south from the N7 on ramp, I wanted to get across to the inside lane. The taxi that had been behind me before we entered the slip decided to just put the foot down on the merge and get ahead of me before I even had time to merge.

3. Up at the Ballymount slip, a van decided to drive right up to the hatch markings and bully his way in. Nothing unusual there.

4. There are two lanes on the slip to head towards Ballymount, and another two to either go straight back on to the M50, or the other lane to go right over the Ballymount flyover. An island separates both sets of lanes. A car in the left of the two right lanes decided he was in the wrong place, and proceeded to reverse down the slip and then come over our side to head towards Ballymount. A left hand drive car with Irish plates.

All of the above occurred along my very short commute this morning. The reversing down the slip is something I've seen in videos, but a first for me to actually witness for myself.

I don't know what annoyed me more out of the four incidents. I do have a serious pet hate for queue jumpers. Thankfully, the rest seem less rare. Well, for me anyway. It's all rush rush and arrogance with a lot of people now!

MadDog76

Pinch Flat wrote: »

According to an earlier poster cyclists pose a hazard on the road, and it's thanks to the diligence of drivers that many more aren't killed. Which is a pretty weird assertion to make. And given the similarities we have with the UK in terms of driving style and aggression, you might have different sets of statistics from some continental European countries where motorists don't seem to get their knickers in a twist over cyclists on the road.

Also from the link above:

"Rural roads have much higher average speeds than urban roads and the extra speed leads to worse accidents for cyclists."

I wonder what's the main factor in these accidents for cyclists - those cycling weaving all over the road and being hit by cars, or motorised vehicles hitting cyclists that are either passing too close, at excessive speeds and not accounting for the prevailing road conditions or otherwise distracted while driving?

It's Motorists fault, they're to blame for everything cyclists do wrong!

The standard cyclist response to any form of valid criticism ........... which, ironically, has already been pointed out to you on this very thread!

gammygils

Eejits that flash their lights at me after I've overtaken them! WTF is that about?

If you don't want to be overtaken then don't be doin' 40 - 45mph! It's not me that's doing wrong! :mad: Jesus!

PeadarCo

MadDog76 wrote:

The standard cyclist response to any form of valid criticism ........... which, ironically, has already been pointed out to you on this very thread!

Is that your default post on this topic or when are you going to start reading the posts your replying to and actually start responding to the points made. The silliness of that standard post has been pointed out numerous times.

PeadarCo

MadDog76 wrote:

The standard cyclist response to any form of valid criticism ........... which, ironically, has already been pointed out to you on this very thread!

Is that your default post on this topic or when are you going to start reading the posts your replying to and actually start responding to the points made. The silliness of that standard post has been pointed out numerous times.

Veloce150

Drivers deliberately driving over a stop line at traffic lights. The stop line is there to ensure a car is over the sensors embedded in the road just before the stop line. If the car is not stopped on on top of the sensors, then it takes longer for the signals to change, delaying everyone.

SixSixSix

Veloce150 wrote: »

delaying everyone.

Do you mean the cars behind them - who are above the induction loops?:rolleyes:

xabi

gammygils wrote: »

Eejits that flash their lights at me after I've overtaken them! WTF is that about?

If you don't want to be overtaken then don't be doin' 40 - 45mph! It's not me that's doing wrong! :mad: Jesus!

I can relate to the this, it seems that overtaking on a single carriageway is frowned upon even when the manoeuvre is completely safe and legal.

Colser

xabi wrote:

I can relate to the this, it seems that overtaking on a single carriageway is frowned upon even when the manoeuvre is completely safe and legal.

I don't think people have a problem with the overtaking but some dipsticks drive up your arse for ages before they overtake and that's what's annoying so they get blasted with lights because of that imo.

xabi

Colser wrote: »

I don't think people have a problem with the overtaking but some dipsticks drive up your arse for ages before they overtake and that's what's annoying so they get blasted with lights because of that imo.

Well, I've been flashed numerous times overtaking on single carriageway without driving up anyone's arse.

demanufactured

xabi wrote: »

Well, I've been flashed numerous times overtaking on single carriageway without driving up anyone's arse.

It's usually BMW drivers who do it.

xabi

demanufactured wrote: »

It's usually BMW drivers who do it.

Flash or overtake?

RainyDay

SixSixSix wrote: »

Do you mean the cars behind them - who are above the induction loops?:rolleyes:

He may well mean the cyclists who are unable to get into the bike box, the place that puts them in the safest position to make sure they get seen by motorists.

Trebor176 wrote: »

1. Motorist blocked the yellow box at the end of my estate this morning. I flashed and honked, and he gave me a look. I pointed to the yellow box, the traffic started to move, and he just stayed put still staring at me. I gestured for him to move, which he did do in the end. All this with two kids in the car, one being in the front. A great example to be setting them!

You gotta love the ones who get stuck in the yellow box, and then when you beep or say anything to them, they point to the car in front and throw their hands/eyes up to heaven like it is entirely the fault of the guy in front for stopping - they couldn't possibly have predicted that this situation was very likely to arise, now could they?

JohnRock

demanufactured wrote: »

It's usually BMW drivers who do it.

And audi

pablo128

Veloce150 wrote: »

Drivers deliberately driving over a stop line at traffic lights. The stop line is there to ensure a car is over the sensors embedded in the road just before the stop line. If the car is not stopped on on top of the sensors, then it takes longer for the signals to change, delaying everyone.

You just have to pass over the sensors, not stop on them.

RainyDay

pablo128 wrote: »

You just have to pass over the sensors, not stop on them.

So the sensors that change the lights are designed NOT to work if you obey the law and stop before the stop line?

pablo128

RainyDay wrote: »

So the sensors that change the lights are designed NOT to work if you obey the law and stop before the stop line?

They will still work even if you stop over the white line.

I am not condoning stopping over the white line, btw. It annoys me too when people do it.

demanufactured

xabi wrote: »

Flash or overtake?

Drive up your arse....drive inconsiderately In general.

demanufactured

Got stuck behind someone who had a car with no indicators today for a few miles....we passed through 4 roundabouts together.....gob****e

RainyDay

pablo128 wrote: »

They will still work even if you stop over the white line.

I am not condoning stopping over the white line, btw. It annoys me too when people do it.

I'm a bit confused. Are you suggesting that they don't work UNLESS you pass over the white line?

maxfresh

Veloce150 wrote: »

Drivers deliberately driving over a stop line at traffic lights. The stop line is there to ensure a car is over the sensors embedded in the road just before the stop line. If the car is not stopped on on top of the sensors, then it takes longer for the signals to change, delaying everyone.

the sensors are latching so once triggered the demand stays till the trafffic signals go green, still the stop line is there for a reason and shouldn't be crossed till moving

Mister Vain

Deedsie wrote: »

Car owners who don't take the dealership stickers and the dealership surround around the registration off their cars. Have you no pride in your property?

How the hell is that an issue?

bodhrandude

Deedsie wrote: »

Car owners who don't take the dealership stickers and the dealership surround around the registration off their cars. Have you no pride in your property?

Drivers who speed through residential and urban areas. It's 50 Km/h for a reason, have a small bit of consideration for other people.

Drivers who are unable to stop before the white line at a set of traffic lights etc

Drivers who park on cycle lanes forcing them onto the road.

Drivers who blame everything on cyclists.

Cyclists who break red lights and don't have lights on their bikes.

I'd like to add: Drivers who completely park on the whole footpath near a busy road, by right residents around there should lift the car onto its side.

Mountainsandh

When I passed my test back in France, I remember the instructors stressing the importance of clearing intersections swiftly. Here in rural Ireland it drives me mad the amount of people who, on a main road, will indicate, slow to a crawl (on the main road), then steer cautiously round at a car park pace, practically forcing me to stop for their manoeuvre, or to swerve-overtake if traffic and location allow.
Of course I understand when they're turning into a tricky drive way or a tight bohreen, that's the ones doing that for perfectly wide and easy turns that annoy me.

pablo128

RainyDay wrote: »

So the sensors that change the lights are designed NOT to work if you obey the law and stop before the stop line?

RainyDay wrote: »

I'm a bit confused. Are you suggesting that they don't work UNLESS you pass over the white line?

Will you give over. :rolleyes: