Limerick Northern Distributor Road

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120926190#Comment_120926190

I'm not. He used to post on here before he got elected as a councillor and subsequently to the Dail and that attitude was pretty normal in any debate you tried to have with him. It was his way or no way.

Cookiemunster

I had thought that this was already out to tender. It must have been a different contract that I saw. However....

The Department of Transport have issued approval to progress the Coonagh to Knockalisheen Distributor Road Project to tender stage.

The tender stage will take approximately 4 months to complete with the aim of commencing onsite in Spring 2024.

The full scheme will take approximately 24 months to complete broken down into 2 Phases.

Phase One will see the completion of the Mainline Dual Carriageway from Coonagh Cross to Knockalisheen Road including works on the Old Cratloe Road and the new Moyross Link Road. The expected duration for these works is 12 months.

Phase Two is the completion of the full road reconstruction of Knockalisheen Road to Watch House Cross including the reconstruction of Ballynanty Railway Bridge. The expected duration of these works is 12 months.

https://www.limerick.ie/council/newsroom/news/coonagh-to-knockalisheen-road-project-approved-for-tender

So Spring 2025 for the new Coonagh to Knockalisheen road to open and Spring 2026 for the upgraded Knockalisheen road to open.

spacetweek

I thought all this time that this was under construction for a few years now!!

Do we ever actually build things in this country?

Cookiemunster

It had started construction in March '21 with a 33 month build time, but the contractor was Roadbridge who went bust 18 months later. The new contractor will finish the job.

Limerick74

So the balance of 15 months will take 24 months. The joys of restarting a paused construction project.

spacetweek

Yea, restarting a failed project is a mare. You can't really just pick up where the last crew left off. You have to reset.

Pman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120926221#Comment_120926221

He has great plans for railway network throughout Limerick and Clare. He's a visionary. He's a gamechanger. A modern day Patrick Sarsfield for Limerick.

By the way his wigness is being dragged out of the ground in Flanders and being brought back to Limerick. The least we should do is prosecute him for kidnapping poor Ann Siderlin and Elizabeth Herbert.

Paddico

This is how it looks on a recent satellite view.

spacetweek

That's all it is?? No point building that in isolation. Needs to go at least as far as Sweeps Road to be any use. From there you can get to Parteen and onward.

Cookiemunster

This section predates the LNDR plan. It was originally designed to open up Moyross as part of the regeneration program. The rest of the LNDR plan has been binned by Ryan.

And before people start claiming that he's not the blame for everything, he very publically tried to stop this section going to construction and TII stated in the LSMATS document that he requested that the LNDR was removed from the plan.

Hibernicis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121384078#Comment_121384078

Based on the works carried out by Roadbridge RIP the new road comes to a dead halt where it meets the Knockalisheen road (close to the entrance to the direct provision centre), so it's overall extent is from Coonagh Cross to the Old Cratloe Road to the Knockalisheen road. There has been extensive clearing and fencing beside the Knockalisheen road from this point back in to the upgraded junction with the R464 (next to Iceland/Amber) indicating that this will be widened.

Ridiculous that the project is taking so long to restart. The council should have been able to step in and award a contract for completion expeditiously.

Limerick74

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121384252#Comment_121384252

*NTA are the lead agency for LNDR, not TII, as LNDR would not be a national road.

EPointer=Birdss

Seems like phase 2 of this is still creating delays in the planning process. Wasn’t the preferred route locked awhile back?

I’m aware of planning that is held up as the council internally try to figure out if a proposed application is viable or not.

It seems unclear to them if the preferred route corridor is constrained for development (understandably) or if a wider undefined area either side of the corridor still is.

That’s where it gets amateur for me if this is in fact the case as it brings it back to where we were for the last what feels like 20 years. Restricting landowners & their families on a what might be. Worst still millions spent to be here.

Any clarity from others if this road is still subject to route change?

pigtown

Wasn't it cancelled by the minister?

Cookiemunster

Yeah, it was removed from LSMATS by Eamonn Ryan.

Previous to that though it never got as far as the planning stage, so definitely isn't held up or creating any planning delays.

EPointer=Birdss

I can tell you it is creating planning delays for people close to the corridor. In some cases it’s not even mentioned in applications as a consideration. Extremely inconsistent it seems

The Clare TDs want the road & insisted on adding it to the CDP even though the minister squashed it

source

The full road was removed then after some backlash he agreed to the continue building the road as far as Knocklisheen.

EPointer=Birdss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121658217#Comment_121658217

From the LSMATs yes but the phase 2 corridor is safeguarded for infrastructure in the council maps referenced in planning applications. It’s not illogical to do so to be fair for future potential development of said road, just very difficult to avail of clear information.

mart 23

Has the Coonagh to Knocklisheen road work restarted.

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Hibernicis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122029959#Comment_122029959

Nope, sod all happening. Disgraceful really given that the construction was quite advanced when Roadbridge went belly up and there can't be more than 6-12 months work remaining to complete the project. .

The road from Coonagh Cross to Old Cratloe road appears to be made, apart from the surface dressing/wearing course. The section from the Old Cratloe road to the Knockalisheen Road road and the connection into Moyross (Back of Thomond Student Village and Delmege Park) is less advance, however the foundations are in place, two of the roundabouts are formed and the bridge over the Limerick-Ennis railway also appears to be well advanced.

Some photos taken last weekend:

Coonagh Cross looking North (Above)

Old Cratloe Road looking South West (Above)

Old Cratloe Road looking North East (Above)

Knockalisheen Road looking West (Above)

Bridge over Limerick-Ennis railway taken from Woodcock Hill Bog

Cookiemunster

There are two years left in the project. A year to finish the under construction road and then another year to rebuild the Knockalisheen Rd.

The contract for the new contractor is only due to be awarded around now. Getting a contractor to finish a job started by someone else isn't a straight forward as awarding a 'clean' contract.

This has all been well publicised and has actually been discussed above on this page.

Hibernicis

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