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Limerick Northern Distributor Road

  • 26-10-2016 9:35pm
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    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    This scheme is important to the city of Limerick, and provides connectivity along the Northern suburbs, the southern ones are linked by the M7/N18/R509 Childers Road. The eventual plan is for the road to go from Coonagh and join up with the R445/old N7 near UL/Annacotty.

    https://www.limerick.ie/council/limerick-northern-distributor-road > Scheme website.

    The current phase going through the stages from Coonagh to Knocklisheen

    Deputy Shane Ross confirmed today that approval has been given to Limerick City/County Council to issue a tender for ground investigation along the route


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    According to the CIF the plan is to tender advanced groundworks rather than ground investigation in Q3.
    https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0ahUKEwiZt-PorvrOAhUBDCwKHUvYAAMQFghFMAY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcif.ie%2Fimages%2Fpdfs%2FInfrastructure-Projects.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFBrLi6VdhAYrtR-V-vc-INcmc8Wg

    €45m - Coonagh-Knockalisheen Distributor Road
    30th March 2016: It is understood that tenders for the advanced groundworks
    will be sought in Q3 2016 for the Coonagh-Knockalisheen Distributor Road.
    Tenders for the main contract of this project will be sought in Q4 2016.
    The scheme will involve; 2.6km of new urban dual carriageway road. 0.6km of
    new urban single carriageway road. 1.8km of major improvements to an existing
    urban single carriageway road. 1.0km of minor improvements to existing rural
    single carriageway roads. Embankment on soft ground requiring specialist
    earthworks design and construction techniques. 2 road over railway bridges. 4
    new roundabouts and modifications to 2 existing roundabouts. 2 Traffic Signal
    Junctions. Surface water sewers, foul sewers, watermains and utility service
    ducting, landscaping, boundaries.
    Work is expected to commence in Q3 2016 and take in the region of 30 months
    to complete.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Also site clearance was also reported on the Limerick forum a few months back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭minnow


    Great news for those who live/work in Limerick region. Would I be right in saying that this new road would become the quickest way to bypass Limerick if I was traveling from Ennis to Dublin? At least distance wise it would be significantly shorter than following the M18/M7 route all around the south & easy of city.

    Following on from that, it is likely to remove traffic from the Limerick tunnel. If I recall correctly, the government/NRA is already paying the developer annually because of lower than expected traffic flows. So the new road may increase that payment...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The only section that has the go ahead is Phase 1 from Coonagh to Knockalisheen. This will hopefully be opened sometime in 2019.
    Phase 2 isn't likely to go ahead any time soon. The original route selection has been shot down by Limerick councillors and Clare councillors want it abandoned as well.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/223579/limerick-northside-s-40m-gateway-to-economic-investment-begins.html

    Important bits from the above article when the political BS has been removed.

    The tendering process for the first stage of the major €40m Coonagh to Knockalisheen Road, which forms part of Coonagh-Lisnagry Northern Distributor Road, is likely to be complete by this Christmas.
    A spokesperson for Limerick City and County Council said that it is likely that contractors will be on site by early 2017.



    It is understood that enabling works have been undertaken over the past number of weeks to prepare the site for construction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    minnow wrote: »
    Great news for those who live/work in Limerick region. Would I be right in saying that this new road would become the quickest way to bypass Limerick if I was traveling from Ennis to Dublin? At least distance wise it would be significantly shorter than following the M18/M7 route all around the south & easy of city.

    Probably not, if it's a distributor road. It'll have a significantly lower avg speed and probably roundabouts, traffic lights and pedestrian crossings


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Is there access to UL from this? Would be ideal to reduce the traffic hell around Castletroy at peak times.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Is there access to UL from this? Would be ideal to reduce the traffic hell around Castletroy at peak times.

    This section only goes from the Coonagh roundabout to the Knockalisheen Rd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭pigtown


    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230893/northern-distributor-road-in-limerick-could-link-to-m7.html
    New proposal for this road. I can't visualise the route they're describing though, if anyone can figure it out and explain like I'm five that'd be great.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Tockman


    Looks like Conn Murray is at it again, having Johnson & Johnson in behind-closed door meeting this week. After strangely getting the wind turbine through for them, now this. Disappointing it wasn't open to residents in area.

    Looks Like there talking about connecting it to the r445 which is the old Dublin road above Lisnagry, with a spur from that road connecting to National technology park with bridge over Mulcair River.

    http://www.clarecoco.ie/roads-and-transport/schemes-and-projects/limerick-northern-distributor-road/limerick-northern-distributor-road-map-of-route-options-9809.pdf

    In above route selections I think it's just the red route pushed farther up with the E.1 to D.1 Link included.


  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭mart 23


    Has the City manager the power to approve the building of this road without the
    approval of the councillors.?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭pigtown


    No he doesn't


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Anyone know where phase 1 (Coonagh-Knocklisheen) is at now?

    Seems an awful long time ago since it was first talked about as part of the regeneration.

    I naively thought back then that it would certainly be built and open by 2017. :-)

    I know the land isn't the greatest there but it's only a few km of road.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    topper75 wrote: »
    Anyone know where phase 1 (Coonagh-Knocklisheen) is at now?

    Seems an awful long time ago since it was first talked about as part of the regeneration.

    I naively thought back then that it would certainly be built and open by 2017. :-)

    I know the land isn't the greatest there but it's only a few km of road.

    See the link in post #8. Tenders don't close until Jan 31st.


  • Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭Limerick74


    Proposed Variation to Limerick County Development Plan for LNDR back for consultation https://www.limerick.ie/council/county-development-plan


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/247532/an-taisce-limerick-object-to-150m-orbital-route.html

    An Taisce have formally objected to the road plan.

    Unprecedented behaviour by them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Middle Man


    marno21 wrote: »
    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/247532/an-taisce-limerick-object-to-150m-orbital-route.html

    An Taisce have formally objected to the road plan.

    Unprecedented behaviour by them.

    It seems that they're against anything that's modern - yes, we must preserve our heritage and our environment, but we also have to live in the 21st century!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Middle Man wrote: »
    It seems that they're against anything that's modern - yes, we must preserve our heritage and our environment, but we also have to live in the 21st century!

    They have also cited the tunnel as an example of now it hasn't alleviated traffic in the city.

    I guarantee if you lift the tolls off that tunnel for one week that would disprove that straight away!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tefral wrote: »
    They have also cited the tunnel as an example of now it hasn't alleviated traffic in the city.

    I guarantee if you lift the tolls off that tunnel for one week that would disprove that straight away!

    I'd love to see what the result would be

    I reckon there would be much more people using the tunnel even if it's more indirect for them, they're just not willing to pay the toll at the minute. The tunnel always feels quieter than the N18 on both sides even wen the bridges are jammed


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Tefral


    marno21 wrote: »
    I'd love to see what the result would be

    I reckon there would be much more people using the tunnel even if it's more indirect for them, they're just not willing to pay the toll at the minute. The tunnel always feels quieter than the N18 on both sides even wen the bridges are jammed

    I've often crawled down the condell road because i don't want to pay the toll in my work van.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26 Werido


    An Tsisce are such fools. What do they want, us to live in dark ages?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Werido wrote: »
    An Tsisce are such fools. What do they want, us to live in dark ages?

    I suppose they have to kinda, justify their existence.






    Their sad, little existence


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Tefral wrote: »
    I've often crawled down the condell road because i don't want to pay the toll in my work van.

    I thought they ought to have gone with a Ryanair model on that tunnel.

    Say 50c. Then the resulting higher use (could be a factor of anywhere between 5 and 10 times the number of cars) would greatly offset the lower toll.
    Most importantly, the scheme would actually then realise its objective fully in terms or relieving pressure on the city.

    Would you pay 50c to avoid the Condell/Dock road queuing Tefral?:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭mastershake


    Looks as though Phase 1 is commencing or at least preparatory works have started[font=Montserrat, sans-serif][/font]Phase 1 (Advanced Works Contract) of the Coonagh to Knockalisheen Distributor Road scheme will involve the following:

    Construction of approximately 300 metres of urban dual carriageway from Coonagh Roundabout to the rear of Coonagh Cross Shopping Centre, including new footways, cycleways and verges

    Embankment construction works for a further 650 metres of future dual carriageway routing from the rear of Coonagh Cross SC towards the Old Cratloe Road

    Embankment construction on soft ground requiring excavation of peat, the installation of specialist prefabricated vertical drains and surcharging

    Provision of pedestrian/ cyclist crossing facilities at Coonagh Roundabout and on the Ennis Road

    Provision of upgraded route lighting, traffic signs and road marking

    Diversion of various utilities including the provision of a foul drainage network on the Ennis Road inbound from Coonagh Roundabout

    Fencing of the entire scheme

    https://www.limerick.ie/council/newsroom/news/contracts-signed-coonagh-knockalisheen-road-phase-one


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Work actually started a few months ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭mastershake


    Work actually started a few months ago.
    Any idea when work for the remaining sections to Knockalisheen Road will take place? This will probably be dependent on securing funding I'm sure which i don't believe has happened yet. Hope this is soon though as the project is very beneficial to Moyross and Ballynanty and will improve access to these communities.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Any idea when work for the remaining sections to Knockalisheen Road will take place? This will probably be dependent on securing funding I'm sure which i don't believe has happened yet. Hope this is soon though as the project is very beneficial to Moyross and Ballynanty and will improve access to these communities.


    I found this online
    The Plans have been granted and contracts have now been awarded for work to commence in August 2017 on the Coonagh-Knockalisheen Distributor Road, Phase 1, worth €4M. The entire construction will be broken into 3 phases and should take in the region of 30 months to fully complete.
    https://www.acrowrecruitment.com/news/contracts-awarded-eur45m-coonagh-knockalisheen-distributor-road-co-limerick/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭mastershake


    I thought I would bump this thread seeing as the Coonagh Roundabout to the Knockalisheen Rd section is now out to tender for construction.

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/228129

    Reminder of the route below.

    https://www.limerick.ie/sites/default/files/media/documents/2017-05/sl-101_scheme_layout_2.pdf


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