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Unrealistic expectations on Adverts.ie

  • 26-10-2016 9:57am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭


    I have bought a few items on Adverts.ie and have been generally pleased.
    However, I am bemused by the prices some people expect to get for their used items. Sonos gear is particularly over priced. Most of the Sonos items for sale are actually dearer than they are new on amazon.co.uk. It does not matter what the item cost at the time of purchase, how can somebody expect to get more than the item is selling for new?
    Any other ridiculously priced goods on Adverts?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The problem is that the people buying stuff on adverts make the most ridiculous, low ball, cheapskate offers that you almost have to inflate the price to take that into consideration.

    Have something that's worth €100 that you'd probably let go for €75? You have to put it up for sale at €130 otherwise you're getting offers of €30 to €50.

    And don't get me started on the swap offers.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Sonos gear is real good though. Real good and real durable and f*cking quality.



    *I do not work for Sonos






    **I would love to work for Sonos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Sonos gear is real good though. Real good and real durable and f*cking quality.



    *I do not work for Sonos






    **I would love to work for Sonos.


    Yeah, Sonos gear is good, user friendly and slightly addictive but asking 320 euro for something when it is on amazon for 290 or 300 euro for something when it is on amazon for 280 is just plain daft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Advbrd wrote: »
    Yeah, Sonos gear is good, user friendly and slightly addictive but asking 320 euro for something when it is on amazon for 290 or 300 euro for something when it is on amazon for 280 is just plain daft.

    I'll give you half a cheese sandwich and 4 minutes of hand sex behind Lidl.

    Or swap for a discman and an inflatable turtle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    I've seen cosmetics at the same price as brown thomas charge and described as rare or limited edition when they're currently for sale on the BT website.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Adverts is great craic.

    There is unrealistic exceptions from both buyers and sellers on there.
    You could be selling the Mona Lisa and someone will low ball you or offer a swap for an empty bag of taytos.
    Whats gas is the same people low balling might be selling stuff themselves at over inflated prices haha.

    Obviously the buyers are looking for a bargain while the sellers are trying to recoup some costs, so advertising 10-20% over what they actually want is to be expected. But it really is stupid if that then brings it over the cost of what it would be new and delivered to your door.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Actually, the ones that piss me off are leeches who go on for the free stuff.....just the ones that are looking to get it for free and then sell it on.

    There was one not so long ago, a minority you could call them, hitting up free ad after free ad. I didnt matter what it is, they wanted it.

    Then the ones who live in Kerry but the item is free in Donegal....Kerry bastard wants Donegal fcuker to deliver it for free too.

    Some people!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    Its quite funny how bad the site has gone.

    Sold my Windows Surface pro 2 tablet on it for 300 euros good price considering it was already 2nd hand to began with. Guy puts it up for the sale the day he gets it for 350 and ended up selling it less then what he paid me for it. I am extremely confused and on his add he said he bought it new and wonted to sell to get a iPad i thought it was to funny to be fair.

    Also sold my Fat xbox one there a few weeks ago people offering me 100 euros for it ha ha. Jesus like and they are like i give you 100 euros cash if you bring to Dublin from cork .....

    Or the best was still to do this day will you swap me a weed growing kit for your iPhone ?. As you can make more back with that ....

    Or Ninja Swords .....

    Swap for stuff in my adds is great and its stuff that you more then likely have trow out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I like the car listings ,

    For sale Ford fiesta 1.0 year 2001 for sale 850 -1500 several owners runs great no nct or tax ,
    Then you see the same car year and so on for sale with a premium tag selling in a garage asking 2500-3000

    But like alot of situations there's always someone willing to pay a little bit more for no reason what so ever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Its quite funny how bad the site has gone.

    Sold my Windows Surface pro 2 tablet on it for 300 euros good price considering it was already 2nd hand to began with. Guy puts it up for the sale the day he gets it for 350 and ended up selling it less then what he paid me for it. I am extremely confused and on his add he said he bought it new and wonted to sell to get a iPad i thought it was to funny to be fair.

    Also sold my Fat xbox one there a few weeks ago people offering me 100 euros for it ha ha. Jesus like and they are like i give you 100 euros cash if you bring to Dublin from cork .....

    Or the best was still to do this day will you swap me a weed growing kit for your iPhone ?. As you can make more back with that ....

    Or Ninja Swords .....

    Swap for stuff in my adds is great and its stuff that you more then likely have trow out.

    Yeah, the swap nonsense is ridiculous. I have not actually sold anything as I couldn't be bothered with the loons. My daughter has a load of toys and gear that she should really sell. I am in two minds whether or not to encourage her, again, the loons.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Find this all the time with people tacking on 5-10% of the market price when the thing is still on the shelves and then getting their feelings hurt when people make reasonable offers or laugh at them.

    I'd occasionally buy bits and pieces of Lego from Adverts and it can get a bit nuts. There are tons of online retailers from every country in the world so people can keep an eye on the prices in Belgium or Germany or the US so the prices never get too mad. Arrive on to Adverts and you see three types of sellers;

    1) people who are just getting rid of stuff and take a big hit to clear space.
    2) people who know the value of what they have but offer a fair price.
    3) people who are obviously on crack when they expect top dollar for some mauldy aul shite they found down the back of the couch.

    The second group are decent folk, good for a chat and a lot of them frequent the Lego forum here. The third group get ignored and rack up hundreds of non-selling ads until some chump rolls in with more money than sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Gatling wrote: »
    I like the car listings ,

    For sale Ford fiesta 1.0 year 2001 for sale 850 -1500 several owners runs great no nct or tax ,
    Then you see the same car year and so on for sale with a premium tag selling in a garage asking 2500-300.

    But like alot of situations there's always someone willing to pay a little bit more for no reason what so ever

    I have a car on donedeal at the moment. Last night I got a message which was just "Swap BMW?"

    I replied "OK" and have been swamped with messages from him. Lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    <Insert car name> for sale. NCT due. But.........

    "It'll fly through!"

    F**k off and fly it through yourself so:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    "Brand New Unopened", except for when you opened the box and took everything out to take the photos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    "Brand New Unopened", except for when you opened the box and took everything out to take the photos.

    Yeah, especially when the ad is up there for a year or more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    "Brand New Unopened", except for when you opened the box and took everything out to take the photos.

    I'll see your Brand new unopened except to take photos and up you..

    Brand new Felt z200 bike never used except for a couple of short 20k spins...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I've heard from plenty of "normal" people that they far prefer adverts because you can block/report time wasters and the whole deal is done out in the open where everyone can see.

    Donedeal and such you're opened to all manner of gowls sending you texts and ringing you to waste your time. And sellers too who'll stick one thing in the ad and have something entirely different to say when you ring them up.

    It's the nature of small ads that you'll always get gombeens making ridiculous offers and wasting your time. Always has been, even back to the printed buy & sell paper, if you advertised something you'd get all sorts of weird calls and stupid offers.

    At least with adverts at worst you have to look at a stupid offer on the screen, you don't have to talk to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Some of the 'antiques and collectables' are well funny, the utter rubbish that people think is worth silly money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    No swaps, no meets, Paypal only.

    People obviously do not read as invariably one of the first messages will be "I can meet you to swap for ......."

    Some fella low balled me on somthing last week, so I replied with "make me an offer there so I can refuse it". He made the offer :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I was selling a near-new graphics card.
    This one lad kept saying he saw it cheaper online and would I sell it to him for that price.
    I asked for a link as the price he quoted was suspiciously low.
    Heard nothing from him after that.
    Meanwhile the offers page is full of posts about how overpriced my item is.
    Ended up selling the graphics card to a friend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I worked for an ecommerce company and there's one thing that's guaranteed to work out badly when you're selling something. That's a bad photo. Doesn't matter if it's a car, an apartment or a consumer good, if you're selling something online make sure to have good photo's. If there's a tiny scuff, put up the photo of the scuff, don't just mention it. Otherwise when the buyer sees it they'll go nuts saying it's bigger than they expected.

    I have no idea how people expect to rent a place with one outside photo on daft or sell a car with a photo of it in the distance from a bad angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    tried to sell a bike on adverts a while back, not at a huge price as I just wanted rid of it really, lad hops in and offers asking with the tag 'for pms', grand says I that was easy and fire him a message to see about payment/collection, next thing he replies telling me he'll swap me a vape for it. Politely declined his offer and next thing I know I've been reported to adverts for ''taking his money and not giving him the bike'' even left me lovely feedback and everything! way too much fcukery on adverts i avoid it like the plague!


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What I hate is some buyers not showing up and then saying they were in hospital and couldn't make the appointment when they get a bad review from the seller-I'll tell ya, there's an awful lot of adverts buyers in hospital right now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Grayson wrote: »
    I worked for an ecommerce company and there's one thing that's guaranteed to work out badly when you're selling something. That's a bad photo. Doesn't matter if it's a car, an apartment or a consumer good, if you're selling something online make sure to have good photo's. If there's a tiny scuff, put up the photo of the scuff, don't just mention it. Otherwise when the buyer sees it they'll go nuts saying it's bigger than they expected.

    I have no idea how people expect to rent a place with one outside photo on daft or sell a car with a photo of it in the distance from a bad angle.

    You're kidding about this part right...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    Adverts is not worth the hassle any more for buying

    I always check Amazon, esp now with the low sterling, or set up an email alert with CamelCamelCamel and just wait for the lower price.

    A lot of stuff on Adverts can be bought a lot cheaper on eBay (filter price + P&P first) or the Chinese sites like BuyInCoins, Aliexpress ect if you're prepared to wait a few weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Depp wrote: »
    tried to sell a bike on adverts a while back, not at a huge price as I just wanted rid of it really, lad hops in and offers asking with the tag 'for pms', grand says I that was easy and fire him a message to see about payment/collection, next thing he replies telling me he'll swap me a vape for it. Politely declined his offer and next thing I know I've been reported to adverts for ''taking his money and not giving him the bike'' even left me lovely feedback and everything! way too much fcukery on adverts i avoid it like the plague!

    Did you report it? It will be looked at and removed if its incorrect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    I think people are fairly guilty of putting their stuff up there at unreasonable prices. I saw a child's trike (won't link) on sale for 50 euro when you can buy it in Smyths for 80 and maybe you can find it on Amazon cheaper again. I personally would rather pay that extra 30 euro 'premium' for something brand new with the added convenience, security and guarantee that comes with buying from Smyths.

    If you're going to go through the hassle of buying or selling from someone privately on Adverts, Donedeal ect. then sellers really need to factor in a considerable discount and not look for 'cost price'.

    You see some people that have things up there on sale for over a year. What an utter waste of energy and time that is for everyone concerned. Unless you're running an actual business then what is the point in having something up there for that long that you obviously no longer want or need to own. People need to sell it, buy it or take it down and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    To be honest, I find it a pretty good site.

    If people have unrealistic expectations, you can get thick about it or just move on.

    For some goods, particularly IKEA, I near prefer adverts to buying new as you don't have to make the stuff up, you don't have to walk around a giant store for two hours to pay for it......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    I wouldn't mind it being a bit rubbish if it were, but now its 3 quid an ad for... what? So they can put those adverts on the tv? Hardly worth it these days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    One that particularly irks me is the prick offering €10 for something for sale at €40 but with the enticement of 'cash today' like he/she was going to pay for it any other way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭Tow


    stimpson wrote: »
    I got a message which was just "Swap BMW?"

    Back when I were a lad. I was asked to swap my bike for a BMW, by two ladies (of the night?), early on a Saturday morning as I cycled along the road at the back of Palmerston Park. To this day I wonder should I have take them up on their offer!

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    For me it's become mostly unusable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Few years ago, I bought a PS3 on adverts from some bloke in town, advertised as fully working but stupidly I didn't insist on seeing it working first. Took it home, didn't work, contacted the buyer and he told me to **** off you buy it as seen, dropped the admin team a line and they never even responded, the bloke even got my feedback removed and is still selling on there now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Four Phucs Ache


    Last year I put up an add for a load of hand tools ( no power tools) I wasn't using for 50 quid.

    A lad 60 miles away wanted me to deliver them to him as he was waiting on his dog to have puppies.

    Lad 2 wanted to know would I swap them for a his box of tools

    Lad 3 wanted me to individually photograph each one so he could zoom in on them

    Lad 4 asked how much it would cost for the bench the tools were on

    Lad 5 said to lad 1 good luck with the bitch

    Lad 6 offered 20 quid if I met him 40 miles away and he liked them

    Lad 7 offered 40 but never turned up coz he bought the box off lad 2

    You have to laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    Last year I put up an add for a load of hand tools ( no power tools) I wasn't using for 50 quid.

    A lad 60 miles away wanted me to deliver them to him as he was waiting on his dog to have puppies.

    Lad 2 wanted to know would I swap them for a his box of tools

    Lad 3 wanted me to individually photograph each one so he could zoom in on them

    Lad 4 asked how much it would cost for the bench the tools were on

    Lad 5 said to lad 1 good luck with the bitch

    Lad 6 offered 20 quid if I met him 40 miles away and he liked them

    Lad 7 offered 40 but never turned up coz he bought the box off lad 2

    You have to laugh.

    You you swap for a new born puppies?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭benny79


    I have to say I find it very good and have sold loads of stuff that I would normally give away or dump you just have to be realistic with your price.. one man's rubbish is another mans gold as they say..

    But people bidding ridiculous offers is annoying but you just have to hold on..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭talking_walnut


    This thread is hilarious. Unfortunately I've nothing to contribute because I've only had good experiences on Adverts :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭fixXxer


    Grayson wrote: »
    I have no idea how people expect to rent a place with one outside photo on daft or sell a car with a photo of it in the distance from a bad angle.

    Some of the best rental experiences I've had were on daft.ie with no photo. No picture means a lot less people go to view the place and the renter is sometimes more amenable to flexible offers.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    This thread is hilarious. Unfortunately I've nothing to contribute because I've only had good experiences on Adverts :(

    Would you like to swap those good experiences for a bag of seedless grapes and a frozen lasagne?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭talking_walnut


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Would you like to swap those good experiences for a bag of seedless grapes and a frozen lasagne?

    Ok. But only if I can do all the travelling for the exchange. I shall rent a van :D


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Ok. But only if I can do all the travelling for the exchange. I shall rent a van :D

    It's only a regular sized bag of grapes.
    Meet you 5/9 ths of the way at a seedy petrol station or car park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Ok. But only if I can do all the travelling for the exchange. I shall rent a van :D

    Would you be interested in swapping the van for a Mondeo engine ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 sonny.roofer


    Happens on eBay also, saw a Buy In Now recently for a 'New' open empty LEGO Polybag for GBP 5. In fairness it has free shipping though. For an empty bag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I think people are fairly guilty of putting their stuff up there at unreasonable prices. I saw a child's trike (won't link) on sale for 50 euro when you can buy it in Smyths for 80 and maybe you can find it on Amazon cheaper again. I personally would rather pay that extra 30 euro 'premium' for something brand new with the added convenience, security and guarantee that comes with buying from Smyths.

    If you're going to go through the hassle of buying or selling from someone privately on Adverts, Donedeal ect. then sellers really need to factor in a considerable discount and not look for 'cost price'.

    You see some people that have things up there on sale for over a year. What an utter waste of energy and time that is for everyone concerned. Unless you're running an actual business then what is the point in having something up there for that long that you obviously no longer want or need to own. People need to sell it, buy it or take it down and move on.

    Thats adverts pricing.

    List at 50 offered 20-30. List at 30 offered 10. If you want to sell for €100, you list for €140. Its just the silly game that goes on.


    Never, EVER, put a freebie up on adverts. Just bin it, not worth the hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭talking_walnut


    ED E wrote: »
    Thats adverts pricing.

    List at 50 offered 20-30. List at 30 offered 10. If you want to sell for €100, you list for €140. Its just the silly game that goes on.


    Never, EVER, put a freebie up on adverts. Just bin it, not worth the hassle.

    Freecycle is good for putting up your freebies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    ED E wrote: »
    Thats adverts pricing.

    List at 50 offered 20-30. List at 30 offered 10. If you want to sell for €100, you list for €140. Its just the silly game that goes on.


    Never, EVER, put a freebie up on adverts. Just bin it, not worth the hassle.

    I agree to an extent but would be more along the thinking that if you want to sell for 100 then accepting 80 or even 70 for example should be fair, so maybe price it at 120.

    Going back to that children's trike I used as an example. I think its silly (even a little cheeky) that its up for 50 euro when it can be gotten brand new in Smyths for 80. When it could be faulty, a few years old, damaged, you have no recourse or warranty in the event of failing, the messaging back and forth, the waiting, the haggling, texting/phoning, arranging suitable times, judging is the person trust worthy, meeting them, paying, then getting feedback ect.

    I'm just of the opinion that the seller is getting 'free cash' (as in they are getting rid of something they no longer need or want) so the buyer should usually be getting what is considered a 'bargain' in my opinion.

    For the record I've only used adverts a hand full of times over the past few years and only ever had good interactions with people. It just irks me a lot more when someone is 'chancing their arm' from a sellers perspective for the reasons I outlined above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    not yet wrote: »
    You're kidding about this part right...?

    I've seen photo's where you're wondering what you're looking at. Items with photo's sell faster and for more money.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tombo2001 wrote: »

    If people have unrealistic expectations, you can get thick about it or just move on.
    ....
    benny79 wrote: »

    But people bidding ridiculous offers is annoying but you just have to hold on..

    Some sound advice there to keep sellers sane
    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's only a regular sized bag of grapes.
    Meet you 5/9 ths of the way at a seedy petrol station or car park.

    I have extra large juicy grapes and can collect but only this evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Had an iPhone 5S on sale a few Christmas's ago. A girl up the road from me wanted it for her sons Xmas present so I sold it to her, complete with box, headphone and charger. As I dropped it up to her I told her to set the phone up on iTunes once its new SIM was inserted to get it going otherwise it wouldn't work ; so far so good.

    11PM on Christmas Day and she gets onto me claiming the phone was locked (Which it wasn't as I got it directly from Apple plus it checked out as being unlocked on iCloud) and with other network SIM cards. I sat down and copy pasted the instructions from Meteor into a text on how to set up an iPhone (Co-incidentally the same as what I told her to do when I dropped it up to her.), she said fine she'd do that and that was that, so I thought.

    4 nights later, again after 11PM she was back on. The phone was still locked and it was all my fault and I needed to get up to her straight away to fix it and that I was a crook taking advantage out of a single mum. I asked her if she had set it up on iTunes; of course she hasn't but it was still my fault and she'd have to pay €60 to get it unlocked. I told her to bring it to Steve Jobs for all I cared as it was unlocked and that her €60 was going to be wasted.

    A month later, again after 11PM and notification came up that she had reported me to Adverts.ie and posted up a pile of bad mouth posts on a second ad I had up. A few days later I sat down and nosed through her comment and feedback history for Pig Iron. Mine was the third iPhone that she had bought on Adverts, all of which were mysteriously locked after she tried to use them :mad::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭The_Captain


    I had a sea unit show up to collect a bag of clothes after we had agreed a price of 50. She shows up, says she only has 20 on her and it was take it or leave it.

    I told her to sling her hook, I'd rather sell it to someone else for cheaper than let someone get away with that crap


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