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How stuck for news is 'De Leader'?

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    #452
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,135 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/373326/limerick-auctioneer-swaps-munster-match-in-edinburgh-for-making-sales-in-corbally.html

    Reads more like a blog post than an article.

    One of the worst I've ever seen from the leader.


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    #453
    Poxyshamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    In typical Leader fashion, the development along the canal that was first posted here and then on twitter is now REVEALED by the Leader. Whatever happened to a bit of digging and research?

    They recently announced that Starbucks were intending to open on O’Connell Street when the signs were erected and broke the news that Shannon were launching two new flights to Ibiza and the East Midlands the day the routes started


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    #454
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 24,003 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/375370/limerick-publican-ordered-to-stand-free-drink-to-traveller.html

    They had two attempts at putting this article on their FB page, and last night's effort was deleted, probably due to all comments attacking the pub landlord made by offended interested parties.

    When the second attempt was made, it was noted that the pub landlord was "ordered" to stand a free drink for the woman whom he had refused to serve. In the article, the free drink was a suggestion made by the judge, and the landlord wasn't ordered at all. He wasn't even found guilty of discrimination.

    All of the comments that pointed out that he wasn't ordered to do it were deleted from the FB page.

    They certainly do like stirring things up with blatantly misleading headlines


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    #455
    mart 23
    Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭mart 23


    Poxyshamrock wrote: »
    In typical Leader fashion, the development along the canal that was first posted here and then on twitter is now REVEALED by the Leader. Whatever happened to a bit of digging and research?

    They recently announced that Starbucks were intending to open on O’Connell Street when the signs were erected and broke the news that Shannon were launching two new flights to Ibiza and the East Midlands the day the routes started

    The canal project was first posted on Skyscraper and copied to here.


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    #456
    Poxyshamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    What are the chances the leader will have a story with some Limerick connection to the Notre Dame fire by the weekend? :pac: “UL student caught up in Notre Dame inferno” or the like.


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    #457
    RhubarbCrumble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    Poxyshamrock wrote: »
    What are the chances the leader will have a story with some Limerick connection to the Notre Dame fire by the weekend? :pac: “UL student caught up in Notre Dame inferno” or the like.

    Don't be giving them ideas! :D


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    #458
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Poxyshamrock wrote: »
    What are the chances the leader will have a story with some Limerick connection to the Notre Dame fire by the weekend? :pac: “UL student caught up in Notre Dame inferno” or the like.

    "I was in Paris about 20 miles away from it but I was like totally scurred"


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    #459
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users Posts: 8,762 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Poxyshamrock wrote: »
    What are the chances the leader will have a story with some Limerick connection to the Notre Dame fire by the weekend? :pac: “UL student caught up in Notre Dame inferno” or the like.

    That now or some auld wan went to mass there back in 1991 and they'll write a piece about it.


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    #460
    kilburn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Maybe they could pull the finger out and write a story about the recent court case between a wheelchair user and the council...


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    #461
    godfrey
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭godfrey


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/375370/limerick-publican-ordered-to-stand-free-drink-to-traveller.html

    They certainly do like stirring things up with blatantly misleading headlines

    The Limerick Misleader.

    g


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    #462
    kilburn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Latest offering 25% of cars for sale in limerick on donedeal are automatic......


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    #463
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    kilburn wrote: »
    Latest offering 25% of cars for sale in limerick on donedeal are automatic......
    Jesus Christ.


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    #464
    Berty
    Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    There was a report about that recently in national media with that fact so they're really just skimming cream from the real media and those who wrote the report.


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    #465
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    Berty wrote: »
    the real media.

    Lol!

    The indo?
    The sh!ter times?
    Da xaminer...?
    The journal?


    As crap as the leader is, and boy is it crap...the "real media" are every bit as bad.


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    #466
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    The times isnt half as bad some of the ones you've mentioned


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    #467
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    Mc Love wrote: »
    The times isnt half as bad some of the ones you've mentioned

    Once upon a time, it was decent. Hasn't been for many many years imo and is getting worse by the week. The likes of Una Mullaly drive me to distraction, and Fintan O'Toole as another. Paper of record my eye.

    The Irish version of the UK Times is better imo. At least they do some bit of investigative journalism and break the odd story here and there...John Delaney and the FAi as one example.


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    #468
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    tototoe wrote: »
    The Irish version of the UK Times is better imo. At least they do some bit of investigative journalism and break the odd story here and there...John Delaney and the FAi as one example.

    The Garda whistleblower scandal too (with the Irish Examiner playing a very prominent role too).


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    #469
    source
    Registered Users Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭source


    tototoe wrote: »
    Once upon a time, it was decent. Hasn't been for many many years imo and is getting worse by the week. The likes of Una Mullaly drive me to distraction, and Fintan O'Toole as another. Paper of record my eye.

    The Irish version of the UK Times is better imo. At least they do some bit of investigative journalism and break the odd story here and there...John Delaney and the FAi as one example.

    There are no real impartial papers left in Ireland. All the mainstream papers have a considerable left lean, and report everything through that lense.


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    #470
    Vanquished
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    The very fact that The Irish Times employs the odious Kitty Holland puts me off buying that paper.


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    #471
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    source wrote: »
    There are no real impartial papers left in Ireland. All the mainstream papers have a considerable left lean, and report everything through that lense.

    When you say left-leaning, can you elaborate on what that means to you?

    Is it really true when the likes of John Waters, Breda whateverhernameis and David Quinn are so prominent. Stephen Collins too would hardly be considered left leaning.


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    #472
    kilburn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Today's offering.....

    Dog faces "ruff justice"


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    #473
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    kilburn wrote: »
    Today's offering.....

    Dog faces "ruff justice"

    You can just tell the writer of that piece came all over himself after nailing that pun.


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    #474
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    The Specialist wrote: »
    You can just tell the writer of that piece came all over himself after nailing that pun.
    14841174.jpg


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    #475
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    The paper's coverage of football in Limerick is scandalous, they'd much rather talk about what type of bog roll Conor Murray wiped his arse with and covering a Junior B football game in the back arse of Limerick.
    Frank Nelligan' notes on the Desmond League from Wednesday's Weekly Observer are copied and pasted into the leader and are beefed up with photos. Frank Nelligan isn't even an employee, he's the league PRO.
    Pat Sheehan has one small column but like Frank, is just a league PRO.
    Then you've the Limerick FC coverage, which sees Colm Kinsella (who'd be way happier watching rugby) loosely report on home games and wouldn't go to an away game if you kissed his hole.
    And then there's Dopey Donn O'Sullivan.

    Adrian Finnin of Sporting Limerick does a stellar job both for Sporting Limerick and in the page of coverage he gives to Junior and Senior Football in the Limerick Post.


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    #476
    billy the squid
    Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Exeggcute wrote: »
    The Leader, The Post and Live95fm encapsulate all that is wrong with the media in Limerick.

    Zero journalism, zero hard hitting questions or analysis.

    What you get is PR releases, cliche laden drivel masquerading as news, regular aspirational pie in the sky updates about projects that will never happen, death notices, ego platforms for big fish small pond types (Richard Lynch, Celia Holman Lee) and ads for businesses.

    Oh and out and about mugshots.

    I wouldn't wipe my arse with them.

    Nothing local about 95fm. They have even taken Limerick out of the station name.

    Leader i have to say is gone to the dogs. Look at how they turned a 250 year old limerick chronicle into a ****ing pull-out is obscene.


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    #477
    panda100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    I am genuinely at a loss at how Nick Rabbitts became a journalist and then ended up as the political correspondent for a large regional newspaper! He is truely the Fr. Dougal of the newspaper world!


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    #478
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    zulutango wrote: »
    When you say left-leaning, can you elaborate on what that means to you?

    Is it really true when the likes of John Waters, Breda whateverhernameis and David Quinn are so prominent. Stephen Collins too would hardly be considered left leaning.

    Editorially speaking, even the Guardian have centre right contributors


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    #479
    source
    Registered Users Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭source


    zulutango wrote: »
    When you say left-leaning, can you elaborate on what that means to you?

    Is it really true when the likes of John Waters, Breda whateverhernameis and David Quinn are so prominent. Stephen Collins too would hardly be considered left leaning.

    The fact that you can name a handful of contributors who would be on the right does not change the fact that all of our media is left-leaning. I say this as someone who is a centrist/centre-left leaning in my politics.


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    #480
    Granadino
    Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    billy the squid wrote: »
    Nothing local about 95fm. They have even taken Limerick out of the station name.

    Leader i have to say is gone to the dogs. Look at how they turned a 250 year old limerick chronicle into a ****ing pull-out is obscene.

    Money. How many full time journalists are with the Leader, Post etc? How much resources do they have for hard hitting investigative journalism? How many people buy the paper to be able to sustain full time journalists doing hard hitting investigative journalism?
    I'd say the Post is full of part timers who don't have the time or the resources to put into any serious.
    Newspapers are f*cked. Regional ones even more so.
    I don't listen to local radio so no opinion on it, but wouldn't be tuning into Live 95 for anything to be honest.


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    #481
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    source wrote: »
    The fact that you can name a handful of contributors who would be on the right does not change the fact that all of our media is left-leaning. I say this as someone who is a centrist/centre-left leaning in my politics.

    I didn't even try too hard. These are very prominent irish columnists and they are certainly not voices of the left. If we're going to say the media is left-leaning can we have some evidence? We've got the Daily Mail, that bastion of socialism of course ..


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