RAW Superthread

HandsomeBob

Mickie cut a great promo. Too bad it ain't worth **** and she's just a placeholder for a month or so.

J. Marston

The heat Enzo is supposed to have must be strange. It was well publicised a few weeks ago about him being thrown off a WWE bus and how he annoyed a lot of people backstage and even Miz dressing him down on Raw but now he's actually won a championship and has main-evented Raw.

Hard to know what to believe.

Rock Lesnar

Im just watching the opening of Raw and not even Miz could save this nonsense

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lord TSC wrote: »

The Bullet Club "invaded" Raw last night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SngRskLscAw

First time I marked for anything to do with wrestling in a long long time!

Rock Lesnar

Best part of Raw for me, the clip of Austin and the beer truck.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/912706637797793792

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/912730401252052995

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/912756446990786561

Interesting.

ricero

Lord TSC wrote: »

The Bullet Club "invaded" Raw last night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SngRskLscAw

Yuck. Indy vanilla midgets and marks for themselves

sky88

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/912706637797793792

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/912730401252052995

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/912756446990786561

Interesting.

Dave has always said this but you never see roman shirts in the crowd a lot like you did cena now cena has always had colorful shirts weres Romans a black so they may fade into the background.

I miss when being the elite good was ie before cody

jaykhunter

ricero wrote: »

Yuck. Indy vanilla midgets and marks for themselves

Meltzer "what you're doing now is what wrestlers in 15 years will be parodying"

Yeah, doing DX parodies

Lithium93_

ricero wrote: »

Yuck. Indy vanilla midgets and marks for themselves

And yet between the entire Bullet Club, they've more personality than most of the WWE locker room..

Lithium93_

jaykhunter wrote: »

Meltzer "what you're doing now is what wrestlers in 15 years will be parodying"

Yeah, doing DX parodies

I doubt wrestlers will still be doing DX parodies in 15 years time..

A Rogue Hobo

ricero wrote:

Yuck. Indy vanilla midgets and marks for themselves

That's the point. They're exaggerated self parodies of what everyone said about them in the past.

sky88

Lithium93_ wrote: »

And yet between the entire Bullet Club, they've more personality than most of the WWE locker room..

Cody is literally has no personality so average wrestler

Agent Coulson

Whenever look to the crowd on RAW and PPV's I see more of Finn's merch than Romans.

Finn must be well up on the merch sales list.

PTH2009

Not sure where too put 205 stuff but is Enzo a heel or a face??? Or is the 205 brand going so downhill the writers don't even care what's happening ??

kopite386

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not sure where too put 205 stuff but is Enzo a heel or a face??? Or is the 205 brand going so downhill the writers don't even care what's happening ??

I read that they are changing both Neville and Enzo so Neville is becoming a face and Enzo is becoming a heel

Angron

After the promo on Raw, I figured they were doing a double turn because Neville came out to "defend the honour" of the division so to speak, while Enzo was a dick to everyone.

Lithium93_

Tom Phillips taking Cole's place on this Monday's RAW, as Cole is M.I.A for his son's wedding.

martyos121

Phillips and Graves as a two man team would be gold, shame Booker will be there to hamstring them. Phillips has come on such a long way in the past year IMO, he's not the most knowledgeable pro-wrestling commentator but that's not really his job. The token black commentator thing is really getting on my nerves, none of them are any good apart from Saxton who's alright. It's clearly not a coincidence at this stage, there's far better guys for the job than the likes of Booker T, David Otunga and Percy Watson.

sky88

I love Booker on commentary I find him really enjoyable

Pentecost

sky88 wrote: »

I love Booker on commentary I find him really enjoyable

Have to respectfully disagree there my friend. I like Booker as an individual well enough but he makes no sense most of the time.

sky88

Pentecost wrote: »

Have to respectfully disagree there my friend. I like Booker as an individual well enough but he makes no sense most of the time.

I think that's what I like I find him funny but can totally see why people don't like him

HandsomeBob

The thing I don't like Booker's commentary is that I just have this uncomfortable feeling that Vince is in his ear encouraging him to be as ridiculous and as stereotypical as possible.

Bounty Hunter

Booker is there for three reasons in my mind, brings levity to the booth, is the guy who can be asked about his in ring experience of situations they are commenting on, as he did it all and finally because he was better than David Otunga.... who has been gone a long 6 weeks considering thats how long they repeatedly mentioned he would be off the team and replaced by Booker each time they started a show at the time.

Lord TSC

I'm trying to work out what way the TLC gimmick matches will work.

It's looking probable we get The Shield vs The Miztourage as the main event. Do they make that a TLC match? 3 on 3, you're not getting titles above the ring for it. They set up the chairs part with the attack on Raw, so do they keep that as a chairs match? Surely the main event has to be a TLC match?

You've also then got one title being defended on the show; Bliss vs whoever she is up against. They've said Auska will be there, but not said if its a title match yet or who she is fighting. They could do a multi-woman TLC match, I guess.

But there's no Universal Championship match (no Brock). No IC title match and no tag title match if the two sets of champs are in the main event.

Unless they keep the reunion till the end of the show? Maybe do Ambrose/Rollins vs The Bar in a TLC match, book Reigns vs Miz for the IC title in the main event, and have The Shield Reunion as the two lads saving Reigns to end the show, and save the 3 vs 3 till the next PPV?

The undercard, though, looks dreadful given the number of injuries and absences. Where do you put Brawn to recover after his Brock loss? We get another (jesus) Finn vs Bray match. Maybe Matt Hardy & Jason Jordan vs The Club?

DM_7

I dont want to see WWE doing Shield v Miz and co.

Prefer to see The Bar v Rollins and Ambrose in the TLC.

Loughc

DM_7 wrote: »

Prefer to see The Bar v Rollins and Ambrose in the TLC.

But how will that make Reigns look strong? I’m not paying €12.99 a month to miss an opportunity to have Reigns shoved down my throat.

DM_7

Loughc wrote: »

But how will that make Reigns look strong? I’m not paying €12.99 a month to miss an opportunity to have Reigns shoved down my throat.

Its not Reigns, I would gladly see the Shield again. Just not against poor opponents.

If it is to be Shield it should be v The Bar plus one.

Loughc

DM_7 wrote: »

Its not Reigns, I would gladly see the Shield again. Just not against poor opponents.

If it is to be Shield it should be v The Bar plus one.

Regardless of the opponents it’s only going to be used to further the Reigns experiment. Ambrose and Rollins will be an after thought.

DM_7

Loughc wrote: »

Regardless of the opponents it’s only going to be used to further the Reigns experiment. Ambrose and Rollins will be an after thought.

In isolation that is a good way to build him up as opposed to the Cena or Taker match.