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Leinster v Ospreys tg4 and BBCW

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    #122
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Well, good in parts.


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    #123
    former total
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    5-0 against the Ospreys. No one dreamed we'd get that. A great performance.

    Getting very excited about this season.


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    #124
    Cathalthesmart
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    Very good performance but the drop off in the second half is a real concern.


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    #125
    [Deleted User]
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    Cathalthesmart wrote: »
    Osperys could teach Leinster a thing or two about defending, there chasing a 2 score lead and are still defending better than Leinster.

    The team that have had 4 tries scored against them can teach the side that have had 2?

    Logic not your strong point there lad.


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    #126
    irishbucsfan
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    Cathalthesmart wrote: »
    Osperys could teach Leinster a thing or two about defending, there chasing a 2 score lead and are still defending better than Leinster.

    Plenty of teams take their foot off the gas when the game is in the bag. Nothing to worry about, it's a long season.


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    #127
    swiwi_
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    Excellent 1st half. Once the replacements came on, it turned a bit to custard. Not sure Mike Ross should be anywhere near the bench.

    Enjoy the night lads and ladesses.


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    #128
    irishbucsfan
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    former total wrote: »
    5-0 against the Ospreys. No one dreamed we'd get that. A great performance.

    Getting very excited about this season.

    Excellent result and a great start to a difficult 3 game run leading into Europe.

    Bring on the next one.

    The only part of the team I feel we need to improve in to become a challenger is midfield, and we have Henshaw to come back still.


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    #129
    Buer
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    The only part of the team I feel we need to improve in to become a challenger is midfield, and we have Henshaw to come back still.

    I feel back row is a concern.


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    #130
    Podge_irl
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    Cathalthesmart wrote: »
    Very good performance but the drop off in the second half is a real concern.

    Dropping off marginally when 31-5 up and the game in the bag (and latterly a man in the bin) is not a concern. It was a totally dominant victory.


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    #131
    irishbucsfan
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    Buer wrote: »
    I feel back row is a concern.

    OK fair enough, we have two concerns. Midfield and Buer's sanity.


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    #132
    sullivlo
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    Buer wrote: »
    I feel back row is a concern.

    Yeah. I actually don't think we have any depth there :(


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    #133
    errlloyd
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    It wasn't even hard for JVDF to beat biggar 1v1


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    #134
    Cathalthesmart
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Dropping off marginally when 31-5 up and the game in the bag (and latterly a man in the bin) is not a concern. It was a totally dominant victory.

    Completely agree, but when I consider the last 2 performances aswell it is a concern. Its all fixable but they need to start soon with Europe around the corner.


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    #135
    former total
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    Talking points:

    Noel Reid is rock solid. Did not see that coming.

    Healy is back. 60 minutes of skittling Ospreys, great to see.

    Dave K will be playing for Ireland in Chicago.

    Luke McGrath has improved immensely.

    Kirchner is a class act.


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    #136
    hogandrew
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    former total wrote: »
    Talking points:

    Noel Reid is rock solid. Did not see that coming.

    Healy is back. 60 minutes of skittling Ospreys, great to see.

    Dave K will be playing for Ireland in Chicago.

    Luke McGrath has improved immensely.

    Kirchner is a class act.

    I've consistently said that Reid isn't good enough because of his defense but my god he is so good with ball in hand.

    I agree with most of your post but I'd add that Kirchner is a class act at full back. I don't think he's a great winger


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    #137
    Clegg
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    Leinster's front 5 smashed their Ospreys counterparts. Game was won from there. Healy was good. Getting back to his old form.


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    #138
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    former total wrote: »
    Luke McGrath has improved immensely.

    This is good news for Ireland. I'm not saying he's at Murray's level but we've pretty much had Murray out on his own for a while now.


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    #139
    irishbucsfan
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    So how do we play Cardiff next week?

    Wouldn't mind see us pick Leavy and JvDF and target their back three in the air, I think that could be their big weakness.


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    #140
    vienne86
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    Very enjoyable evening in the RDS! Very entertaining match - everyone played well. Great to have Sexton back. Cian Healy again showed that he has his mojo back. The pack minces the Osprey pack, but there was great tackling by the backs too - Noel Reid CAN tackle, so I was wrong about him. It was hard enough to pick one MOTM, but Van der Flier deserved it.

    We went off the boil in the last quarter, but the match was well and truly won then. Great to see a performance like that as we approach the Champions Cup matches.


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    #141
    Sanjuro
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    So good to hear Healy is regaining form. Was bulking up the problem? He was absolutely massive before the World Cup, but seems to have shredded some mass.


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    #142
    KingBrian2
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    It was good game. Glad I watched it.:) Ospreys are a top team.:cool:


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    #143
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    Sanjuro wrote: »
    So good to hear Healy is regaining form. Was bulking up the problem? He was absolutely massive before the World Cup, but seems to have shredded some mass.

    No. He is still a massive unit, he was repeatedly injured. He was never too big and naturally filled out somewhat as he got older which has improved his set piece, tackling and ground work.

    His strength and conditioning team know what they are doing and he was never and will never be too big or too small. He will be exactly the weight / size he is training and told to train for.


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    #144
    .ak
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    I love the fact Isa has invented the ability to teleport.


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    #145
    Sanjuro
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No. He is still a massive unit, he was repeatedly injured. He was never too big and naturally filled out somewhat as he got older which has improved his set piece, tackling and ground work.

    His strength and conditioning team know what they are doing and he was never and will never be too big or too small. He will be exactly the weight / size he is training and told to train for.

    Fair enough. His mobility in the last year was not as good as previous seasons. And coupling that with the photos of him lifting insane volumes of weight, you draw conclusions. Probably why I've never managed to get that strength and conditioning job for the IRFU.


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    #146
    errlloyd
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    I genuinely think his hand was crippled last year, he must have done a lot more rehab in the off season to get proper strength and grip back in it.


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    #147
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    He was rushed back a bit last year, I think? Maybe shouldn't have been involved in the Ireland squads at all, for his own sake.


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    #148
    Hagz
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    He was most likely just carrying numerous niggles. Didn't he have surgery on his knee recently?

    Anyhow, this evening he was running like he used to back in '11/12. Doing his signature windmill arm swing as he changed direction.


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    #149
    CatFromHue
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    Also a proper pre season will help too.


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    #150
    sydthebeat
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    Last season he would play with more strapping than an Egyptian mummy.... Forearms, elbows, thighs and his feet were basically fused into his boots.

    Today he had partially none, none that I could see from the North stand anyway.

    His freedom of movement is allowing his better play, which tells me he hasn't been fully fit in a long time.


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    #151
    molloyjh
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    I was so happy with that game I came straight home and watched it again. Leinster were totally dominant for about 75 mins of that game so it was great to see no second half drop off. Our pack is just ridiculous at this stage and the competition in the squad is great. And for all the grief he gets Dave Kearney was great again today.

    Leo really does deserve huge praise for the work done in the last few months. And you'd have to think we'll only get better as guys get more experience playing like this.

    Thought the ref did his best to even things up in the last quarter. Some very bizarre calls or lack of at times. And the yellow he gave Sexton was madness. Sure he was technically offside, but he wasn't interfering with play at all. We had Ospreys well under control until that point really. The tackle from Zane just before the card was superb.

    And the appetite for the tackles tonight was great to see, even if the system was a bit shaky. Noel Reid deserves a mention for really upping his game there. Also thought Luke was excellent.

    To think that we have Strauss, SOB, Conan, Henshaw and Rob to come back yet as well as guys like Nagle and Ross Byrne. We're coming along quite nicely. Leo seems to be building a really good environment there too which is fantastic. We just need to address a few issues with the set piece and bed down the defensive system and we'll be in a very good place.


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