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Have you ever seen Chemtrails in Ireland?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭eoinzy2000


    xabi wrote: »
    eoinzy2000 wrote: »
    Celery - Raw - 51mcg flouride
    Carrots - boiled & drained, with salt - 271mcg fluoride.
    Potatoes- boiled & drained, with salt - 114mcg fluoride.

    Dam, I had Carrots and Spuds last night and washed them down with tap water :eek:
    We need to mobilise. We are not just obedient income generators. TAKE THE POWER BACK


  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭eoinzy2000


    el diablo wrote: »
    eoinzy2000 wrote: »
    Chemtrails..... hahahahahahahaha. Its up there with the anti fluoride in water supply brigade. Idle minds and all that.


    The chemtrails conspiracy is a little far-fetched but it's a well known fact that flouride is a neurotoxin.
    Fluoride Officially Classified as a Neurotoxin in World s Most Prestigious Medical Journal

    http://wakingscience.com/2016/02/fluoride-officially-classified-as-a-neurotoxin-in-worlds-most-prestigious-medical-journal/
    The introduction of fluoride into the water supplies has to be hailed as one of the most successful and ingenious applications of science in all of history. It pretty much eradicated extensive tooth decay and ongoing human suffering over a very short period of time. Its amazing what the modern clickbait bull**** can do to completely undermine fine science. There is the argument that we have tooth pastes and other sources of fluoride that we didn't have then, which is fair enough. But people have been mobilised to such an extent that they are actively sourcing fluoride free toothpastes and comprehensively demonising fluoride, where in such small doses, causes much greater benefits than harm. Remember, there is still intense poverty in elements of society. By withdrawing fluoride to satisfy your pseudo-educated fancies, it is the weaker in society that you are exposing to more hardship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,685 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ^ apples have cyanide in them. Is your grocer trying to kill you?

    remember when everyone freaked out about potassium after Fukushima?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    eoinzy2000 wrote: »
    There are lots of other neurotoxins that you ingest daily also. Do we need to pin point all of these?

    The chemical composition of many food items is Fascinating, however the current Gluten free fad should be enough evidence against that discussion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    eoinzy2000 wrote: »
    Celery - Raw - 51mcg flouride
    Carrots - boiled & drained, with salt - 271mcg fluoride.
    Potatoes- boiled & drained, with salt - 114mcg fluoride.

    Ah but two of those were boiled in water laced with fluoride!

    ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    A new photo popping up on social networks. Supposedy Angela Merkel inspecting the inside of a chemtrail tanker plane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Rashers wrote: »
    A new photo popping up on social networks. Supposedy Angela Merkel inspecting the inside of a chemtrail tanker plane.
    Nope. Inspecting the inside of a plane that's undergoing testing.
    The tanks are used to simulate the weight of passengers and are filled with water that gets pumped around during flight.

    Specifically it was an Airbus A350 at the 2014 Berlin Airshow.
    https://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/Content/EN/Fotoreihe/2014/2014-05-20-ila_en/2014-05-20-ila.html

    I like how they tried to cover up this incriminating photo by hiding it on the chancellor's official website...


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭pfurey101


    Rashers wrote: »
    A new photo popping up on social networks. Supposedy Angela Merkel inspecting the inside of a chemtrail tanker plane.

    Fools believe what they want to believe and see only what fits these beliefs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    pfurey101 wrote: »
    Fools believe what they want to believe and see only what fits these beliefs.

    There seems to be a lot of fools so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Rashers wrote: »
    There seems to be a lot of fools so.

    There sure are Rashers, Where I live gets sprayed a lot, even my neighbours (elderly) are saying they've never seen plane contrails doing that in there 50 to sixty years of living where I am.

    Would love to know what its all about..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Steve012 wrote: »
    There sure are Rashers, Where I live gets sprayed a lot, even my neighbours (elderly) are saying they've never seen plane contrails doing that in there 50 to sixty years of living where I am.

    Would love to know what its all about..

    Are you saying you believe that contrails are someone unknown spraying various countries with some variously named chemicals?

    Please do tell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Rashers wrote: »
    Are you saying you believe that contrails are someone unknown spraying various countries with some variously named chemicals?

    Please do tell.

    In all fairness, its unusual tbh, Ive seen crisscross patterns across the sky many many times, I'm not a young man, never seen that when I was younger.


  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Steve012 wrote: »
    In all fairness, its unusual tbh, Ive seen crisscross patterns across the sky many many times, I'm not a young man, never seen that when I was younger.

    Hardly unusual, and definitely not new. Planes fly in all directions all of the time

    You can check every flight here: https://www.flightradar24.com/60,15/6 And there you can rest your cursor on any plane and you get all of the info on that flight.

    Then again you will accept no doubt that so many nations have air defence systems that recognise every plane that flies in their airspace.

    Contrails are not new neither..



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,039 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @Steve012, when you were younger there were fixed airways crossing Ireland so all aircraft flew the same routes, now its free space so aircraft can fly a more direct route across the country. This has lead to the crossing tracks that you are now seeing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭pfurey101


    smurfjed wrote: »
    @Steve012, when you were younger there were fixed airways crossing Ireland so all aircraft flew the same routes, now its free space so aircraft can fly a more direct route across the country. This has lead to the crossing tracks that you are now seeing.

    Correct! This.........and a lot more planes flying about.

    The amount of flights these days ex Belfast, Scotland and Scandanavia (to the Canaries/Portugal etc) that head north/south is huge compared to even 10 years ago. And when I started in avaiation in the 70's there were a couple a day! These north/south tracks now make a lot more contrail crosses (...crosses :eek:...oh no!) in the sky.

    The reason for contrails today is exactly the same as the reasons in the WW2 video above - but more direct routings and 100's more planes make it appear armageddon to those that really do need to try and understand more.

    Hot water vapour + Cold air = contrail


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,905 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    You just have to look at Flight Radar 24 to see the increase in air traffic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,233 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Rashers wrote: »
    There seems to be a lot of fools so.

    One thing we're never short of is fools.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    GBX wrote: »
    You just have to look at Flight Radar 24 to see the increase in air traffic.

    Any flight that shows up as no callsign is fully loaded with chem-trail gas!


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭pfurey101


    tuxy wrote: »
    Any flight that shows up as no callsign is fully loaded with chem-trail gas!

    Assuming you are serious...do you want to know the real reason?

    Apart from being able to see these flight numbers/registrations displayed on one or all of other apps such as PlanePlotter, PlaneFinder, 360Radar etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 hutch792


    "Chemtrails" — How They Affect You and What You Can Do youtu.be/IqATQtwOY34 ( I cant post full URL yet so you will have to fill in the rest of the link your self)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    Seems to have been a few around during WW2 as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    hutch792 wrote: »
    "Chemtrails" — How They Affect You and What You Can Do youtu.be/IqATQtwOY34 ( I cant post full URL yet so you will have to fill in the rest of the link your self)
    That's a funny video. Right near the beginning they have a picture showing the supposed difference between contrails and chemtrails. Then the next scene is a high speed shot of the clouds where it shows a con trail turn into the same shape as their chemtrail example shown just before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    ScumLord wrote: »
    That's a funny video. Right near the beginning they have a picture showing the supposed difference between contrails and chemtrails. Then the next scene is a high speed shot of the clouds where it shows a con trail turn into the same shape as their chemtrail example shown just before.

    Incredible, it's complete and utter nonsense from start to finish

    Yet has 630k views and 6700 likes vs 400 dislikes

    I'm all for free speech, but Youtube/Google/etc need to stamp this false information out


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It's shocking how much support this kind of stuff gets, and google/youtube does seem to push it because of it's popularity. If I watch one of these videos youtube goes out of it's way to push more at me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 hutch792


    A contrail occurs when a plane travels at a high altitude (about 30,000 ft. or more) and compresses the air into a water vapor or ice crystals through jet engines or the wing tips pushing through the air. This trail disappears after a minute or so due to evaporation, because it's water.

    The term "chemtrail" is a relatively new word, which appeared in the last few years along with the appearance of chemtrails.
    A chemtrail is very different from a contrail. At first a chemtrail might look a bit like a contrail. However, instead of disappearing like a contrail does, a chemtrail just keeps spreading out and forming a hazy cloud bank. These trails traverse the whole sky and stay for up to around five or even eight hours. They have been known to turn what was originally a clear blue sky into a grey haze.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    hutch792 wrote: »
    A contrail occurs when a plane travels at a high altitude (about 30,000 ft. or more) and compresses the air into a water vapor or ice crystals through jet engines or the wing tips pushing through the air. This trail disappears after a minute or so due to evaporation, because it's water.
    If it's water vapour, it's already evaporated.
    Are you saying that contrails cannot last more than a couple of minutes?
    hutch792 wrote: »
    The term "chemtrail" is a relatively new word, which appeared in the last few years along with the appearance of chemtrails.
    A chemtrail is very different from a contrail. At first a chemtrail might look a bit like a contrail. However, instead of disappearing like a contrail does, a chemtrail just keeps spreading out and forming a hazy cloud bank. These trails traverse the whole sky and stay for up to around five or even eight hours. They have been known to turn what was originally a clear blue sky into a grey haze.
    How specifically do you know that these are a feature of chemtrails and that contrails cannot exhibit the same behavior in certain circumstances?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    hutch792 wrote: »
    The term "chemtrail" is a relatively new word, which appeared in the last few years along with the appearance of chemtrails.

    It's been around since the late-nineties
    http://contrailscience.com/a-brief-history-of-chemtrails/
    However, instead of disappearing like a contrail does, a chemtrail just keeps spreading out and forming a hazy cloud bank.

    These are contrails.

    "When the ambient relative humidity is high, the resulting ice-crystal plume may last for several hours. The trail may be distorted by the winds, and sometimes it spreads outwards to form a layer of cirrus cloud.
    vapour trail. (2007). In Encyclopædia Britannica.Retrieved May 4, 2007,from Encyclopædia Britannica Online:"

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    cotw-1141s.jpg


    1944-91st-bomber-contrails.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 hutch792


    King Mob wrote: »
    If it's water vapour, it's already evaporated.
    Are you saying that contrails cannot last more than a couple of minutes?


    How specifically do you know that these are a feature of chemtrails and that contrails cannot exhibit the same behavior in certain circumstances?
    Yes they only last a few minutes, once they reach the same temperature as the air around them they disappear very much like our breath on a cold morning.
    I can be sure that the behavior seen with cemtrails is only a feature seen with cemtrails and not contrails, because of the fact that contrails do not stay in the atmosphere long enough to blanket the sky.
    Here is a very interesting post i came across: collective-evolution.com/2014/11/01/pilots-doctors-scientists-tell-the-truth-about-chemtrailsgeo-engineering/
    If anyone is in disbelief, as to whether or not some people are prepared to experiment with our climate and with the finely balanced ecosystem we have here by attempting to block out the sun to combat climate change, you should also have a look at this post: robby-berman/harvard-scientist-say-its-time-to-take-bioengineering-seriously
    This is happening now all over the world and can have severe consequences for all of us.
    sorry had to leave out the http in the links because i am a new user.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    hutch792 wrote: »
    Yes they only last a few minutes, once they reach the same temperature as the air around them they disappear very much like our breath on a cold morning.
    If this is the case, how do you explain clouds? They can persist for hours and days, yet they don't disappear when they reach the same temperature as the air around them.
    Are you perhaps suggesting that clouds didn't exist before chemtrails?

    Also, how do you explain pictures like these:
    http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/topcoverphotow.jpg
    http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/1454956689_44a09f2d27_r2.jpg
    https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/upload_2014-11-18_16-36-37-png.10245/
    https://jazzroc.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/battle-of-britain-london-contrails.jpg

    These are contrails lasting much more than a few minutes from the 1940s.
    Were they spraying chemtrails back then?
    hutch792 wrote: »
    I can be sure that the behavior seen with cemtrails is only a feature seen with cemtrails and not contrails, because of the fact that contrails do not stay in the atmosphere long enough to blanket the sky.
    But again, how exactly do you know that this is something that contrails cannot do?
    How do you know that chemtrails can do this?
    hutch792 wrote: »
    If anyone is in disbelief, as to whether or not some people are prepared to experiment with our climate and with the finely balanced ecosystem we have here by attempting to block out the sun to combat climate change, you should also have a look at this post:
    There's a long laundry list of problems that make this notion patently silly.

    How do you believe they are spraying these chemicals? Is it through all normal air liners or through specialised planes?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭golfcaptain


    Chemtrails = 10 letters. 10, exactly between 9 and 11. 9 and 11. 9/11.


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