Building on a fairy fort?

Nekarsulm

The newer set navs seem less capable of finding place names and addresses than older ones.
As for eir code....... give me strenght...

Then the Council have decided to change the spelling of our local town, for no practical reason that I can fathom.

Kovu

Ya, I have a place on AirB&B and it's an ordeal trying to get them here! Google have used the Irish townland name in their maps even though it's obsolete and google seems to send them further down the backroads of Leitrim.

Base price

Nekarsulm wrote: »

The newer set navs seem less capable of finding place names and addresses than older ones.
As for eir code....... give me strenght...

Then the Council have decided to change the spelling of our local town, for no practical reason that I can fathom.

Ah sure we have got used to that over the years with Anglicisation.
My addresses in NCD and both places in Longford have several spellings.
When the local post lady/man goes on holidays my post seems to end up in the outer nebula
Unfortunately the bills have a inherent homing instinct to make their way back home

Base price

Kovu wrote: »

Ya, I have a place on AirB&B and it's an ordeal trying to get them here! Google have used the Irish townland name in their maps even though it's obsolete and google seems to send them further down the backroads of Leitrim.

Good for you Kovu. Best of luck with your Airbnb.
One could easily be lost on the roads in your neck of the woods
In fairness Main St, Carrigallen has a 4G signal :eek:
Easily knowing the Reynolds family (F.F) are no longer the force that they used to be in Co. Longford. I and OH have difficulty getting a 3G signal where we live.

Nekarsulm

Base price wrote: »

In fairness Main St, Carrigallen has a 4G signal .

Are you sure, Base?
Went into the supermarket there to use the bank link, and the machine is gone.
Owner said the WiFi was removed so the bank took out the machine.

Good luck with the AirB&B Kovu. Very tempting looking on their site, a canal boat on an Amsterdam canal looked great.... near the flower market and all.

Genghis Cant

Kovu wrote: »

Ya, I have a place on AirB&B and it's an ordeal trying to get them here! Google have used the Irish townland name in their maps even though it's obsolete and google seems to send them further down the backroads of Leitrim.

Best of luck with your enterprise. It looks cosy :-)
We occasionally go on holidays self catering, maybe I'll look ya up if we decide to visit lovely Leitrim!

Kovu

Sssh only mentioned it because mentioning random people visiting sounds worse!

Anyway, to sorta continue on same thread, many visitors are looking into the history of the house and surrounding area. That archaeological site could be brilliant as it now verifies certain areas we knew before but weren't on maps.

I don't get the hatred of these sites? If people feel like honoring traditions their family held, what's the issue?

Base price

Kovu wrote: »

Sssh only mentioned it because mentioning random people visiting sounds worse!

Anyway, to sorta continue on same thread, many visitors are looking into the history of the house and surrounding area. That archaeological site could be brilliant as it now verifies certain areas we knew before but weren't on maps.

I don't get the hatred of these sites? If people feel like honoring traditions their family held, what's the issue?

Well done girl. One wonders what the issue is.
I was reared to honour and respect my ancestors.
I have (HOPEFULLY) passed the same eticate onto my sons.
Hopefully my grave will be protected from future generations of modern farming on this Island. Seems like some would prefer to plough and uproot our bones.

Padster90s

Heard during the week that some of the forts were used as a place to bury unbaptised/still born children years and years ago.

runawaybishop

Kovu wrote: »

Ya, I have a place on AirB&B and it's an ordeal trying to get them here! Google have used the Irish townland name in their maps even though it's obsolete and google seems to send them further down the backroads of Leitrim.

You can report the name as incorrect to google and get it renamed.

Curly Judge

Padster90s wrote: »

Heard during the week that some of the forts were used as a place to bury unbaptised/still born children years and years ago.

Ah yes, back in the good old days of Limbo and other Catholic obscenities.

pedigree 6

I don't think anyone nowadays believes in fairies.
But you have to remember back in the day anything bad that happened that couldn't be explained, it was an easier concept to believe that there was some other forces at work.
Cow gets mastitis - the fairies.
Calf dies at birth - the fairies.
People start dying from a mysterious illness - the fairies.

Some people get very stuffy about these things but all civilisations had other explanations for these things. Whether it be different gods for specific things or even in our own religion now with god and the devil.

I don't know whether my grandmother believed in them or not but my father would tell me stories that she told him.
We had a rath in our field and it was levelled out in the fifties and the digger broke down during the operation and the neighbours all said mockingly that it was the fairies at work.

But people did believe in this stuff in this country and I believe that if a plague or virus struck an extended family in a rath. That people believed that it was the fairies at work that they didn't want them there. So I believe that the houses in the rath were set on fire and another rath built.
Why do this?
They thought by doing this, they were getting their own back on the fairies.
But they were actually clearing the houses of disease and viruses.
(You can actually see this today with farmers here when a virus strikes in a calf house and the job to spray and disinfect the house before next years calves).

But I wouldn't be of the thinking that all this fairy talk was backward or anything. As I say every country had their own quirk of belief.
It really should be seen that's just the way it was and Vikings had their beliefs of Thor and Odin and the Scandinavians are proud of their traditions not at all ashamed.
But I wouldn't be proud of destroying our heritage and saying look nothing bad happened.
Most people around the world have pisheogs or talk of bad luck if destroying old man made sites. It's why they have survived for so long and people know better. (Don't really want to bring the tone down but) You have isis going out of their way to destroy old sites to show the people that there is no bad luck but the one god of all.

We really are blessed that we live in a country with a rich man made heritage and it just shows how long we have lived in this country. I think we take it for granted and don't give it a moments thought but talk to an American on holidays here and they are here with fresh eyes and they can't get enough.
Everyone needs to know where their people came from and how they lived and what they went through and how you came to exist. Keeps you grounded.

Finally (horay) that is a great archeological website map of Ireland.
I now know that there was a monastery farm in the district and beside it was a danesfort. So you can see what was going on there! Then you have the raths and churchs and graveyards long gone all in my area but recorded now.

djmc

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I don't think anyone nowadays believes in fairies.
But you have to remember back in the day anything bad that happened that couldn't be explained, it was an easier concept to believe that there was some other forces at work.
Cow gets mastitis - the fairies.
Calf dies at birth - the fairies.
People start dying from a mysterious illness - the fairies.

Some people get very stuffy about these things but all civilisations had other explanations for these things. Whether it be different gods for specific things or even in our own religion now with god and the devil.

I don't know whether my grandmother believed in them or not but my father would tell me stories that she told him.
We had a rath in our field and it was levelled out in the fifties and the digger broke down during the operation and the neighbours all said mockingly that it was the fairies at work.

But people did believe in this stuff in this country and I believe that if a plague or virus struck an extended family in a rath. That people believed that it was the fairies at work that they didn't want them there. So I believe that the houses in the rath were set on fire and another rath built.
Why do this?
They thought by doing this, they were getting their own back on the fairies.
But they were actually clearing the houses of disease and viruses.
(You can actually see this today with farmers here when a virus strikes in a calf house and the job to spray and disinfect the house before next years calves).

But I wouldn't be of the thinking that all this fairy talk was backward or anything. As I say every country had their own quirk of belief.
It really should be seen that's just the way it was and Vikings had their beliefs of Thor and Odin and the Scandinavians are proud of their traditions not at all ashamed.
But I wouldn't be proud of destroying our heritage and saying look nothing bad happened.
Most people around the world have pisheogs or talk of bad luck if destroying old man made sites. It's why they have survived for so long and people know better. (Don't really want to bring the tone down but) You have isis going out of their way to destroy old sites to show the people that there is no bad luck but the one god of all.

We really are blessed that we live in a country with a rich man made heritage and it just shows how long we have lived in this country. I think we take it for granted and don't give it a moments thought but talk to an American on holidays here and they are here with fresh eyes and they can't get enough.
Everyone needs to know where their people came from and how they lived and what they went through and how you came to exist. Keeps you grounded.

Finally (horay) that is a great archeological website map of Ireland.
I now know that there was a monastery farm in the district and beside it was a danesfort. So you can see what was going on there! Then you have the raths and churchs and graveyards long gone all in my area but recorded now.

+1
I didn't think much of the fairies until I started reading into it.
Most could have been real people of importance once there is even a family tree of them through generations
The old Irish name was our people or tribe of the gods.
The catholic church changed this to tribe of the mystical people and called any one who worshipped them pagan's
The English anglicised the name to fairies and nowadays that word makes people think of a Disney cartoon like Tinkerbell.
The stories and legends are probably away of keeping our old belief alive and respected and should not seen as backwards.

kowtow

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I don't think anyone nowadays believes in fairies.
But you have to remember back in the day anything bad that happened that couldn't be explained, it was an easier concept to believe that there was some other forces at work....

But I wouldn't be of the thinking that all this fairy talk was backward or anything. As I say every country had their own quirk of belief.

...

We really are blessed that we live in a country with a rich man made heritage and it just shows how long we have lived in this country. I think we take it for granted and don't give it a moments thought but talk to an American on holidays here and they are here with fresh eyes and they can't get enough.
Everyone needs to know where their people came from and how they lived and what they went through and how you came to exist. Keeps you grounded.

+ 1000

There is far more danger to humanity, and the world around us, from human beings believing that they understand everything and can fix it, than there ever was when we accepted that some things could not be explained and had a measure of sensible folk fear and respect for them as a result.

pedigree 6

Eh now everyone. I don't believe in fairies.
Not sure what I believe in.
Treat people the way you want to be treated back I suppose.

Just people get so high and mighty these days and think they're superior to people in times past. When if they were living in the same times with the technology and knowledge available at the time they'd be no different.

sonic85

I've a ring fort beside my house. It's a magnificent thing it really is. Its never really been touched which is great and in winter when theres no growth I love wandering in around it

patsy_mccabe

Ours is a great dumping ground for organic waste like tree branches, cut briars etc. It doesn't bother me putting these in, but wary of taking stuff out, like cut timber.
Would be great to go back in time and pay a visit. 'I'm here from the Department, you're due an inspection'.:rolleyes:

Sam Kade

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Eh now everyone. I don't believe in fairies.
Not sure what I believe in.
Treat people the way you want to be treated back I suppose.

Just people get so high and mighty these days and think they're superior to people in times past. When if they were living in the same times with the technology and knowledge available at the time they'd be no different.

Just imagine if people nowadays had to live like people lived here in the 1930's I'd say we'd be listening to some moaning for a while especially from the younger crowd

Kovu

Sam Kade wrote: »

Just imagine if people nowadays had to live like people lived here in the 1930's I'd say we'd be listening to some moaning for a while especially from the younger crowd

We'd all be spluttering with consumption and I'd have a gaggle of kids trotting after me.

Nekarsulm

There would be some moaning from everyone, as processed food was almost unknown.

Was chatting a distant relative on Sunday, and he was telling me that in the late 1960's any Pheasant he shot was sent by train to Dublin to a game dealer and a £2 postal order went back by post. They all grew spuds then, and he claims to have once shot more than a dozen pheasants in one weekend in the spud garden.
As he said, "A pheasent would never eat yesterday's spud, he would always dig a few new ones"!

pedigree 6

Sam Kade wrote: »

Just imagine if people nowadays had to live like people lived here in the 1930's I'd say we'd be listening to some moaning for a while especially from the younger crowd

Whatever about the 30's you can live like they did in 500's and 600's.
Well for a night anyway at the irish national heritage park.
http://www.inhp.com/

You know it's in the same county and I've never been.
Passed by alright and the carpark is always full.
May call in now.:pac:

Username John

Sam Kade wrote: »

Just imagine if people nowadays had to live like people lived here in the 1930's I'd say we'd be listening to some moaning for a while especially from the younger crowd

Yes and no...

If we in the 1930s, a lot of the younger crowd would be in America, writing home to the older crowd once in a while, sending home a few dollars when they could... The older crowd would be wishing for a time when the younger crowd could be at home, and lamenting that they might never see their grandchildren...

That's what seemed to have happened a lot of the folks here in the 1930s anyways...

Sam Kade

Username John wrote: »

Yes and no...

If we in the 1930s, a lot of the younger crowd would be in America, writing home to the older crowd once in a while, sending home a few dollars when they could... The older crowd would be wishing for a time when the younger crowd could be at home, and lamenting that they might never see their grandchildren...

That's what seemed to have happened a lot of the folks here in the 1930s anyways...

I said live like the 1930's not the actual 1930's, just imagine if there were some disaster that wiped out most modern conveniences and everything they were used to was gone over night.

Username John

Sam Kade wrote: »

I said live like the 1930's not the actual 1930's, just imagine if there were some disaster that wiped out most modern conveniences and everything they were used to was gone over night.

But it's all relative Sam

A modern convienence to some might be a iphone, maybe a modern convienence to you might be electricity, not sure what age you are, but to older people again it might be indoor plumbing...
Let me ask you - when was the last time you went for a pee outside in the middle of a fine wet November night like your grandfather did... Thinking 'ah, isn't this nostalgic'

runawaybishop

Sam Kade wrote: »

I said live like the 1930's not the actual 1930's, just imagine if there were some disaster that wiped out most modern conveniences and everything they were used to was gone over night.

Yeah, polio for all!

kowtow

Username John wrote:

Let me ask you - when was the last time you went for a pee outside in the middle of a fine wet November night like your grandfather did... Thinking 'ah, isn't this nostalgic'

November.

Water John

Well looking at the paper today, the latest modern conveinience in 1936 would have been the little Grey Ferguson.

welton john

Username John wrote: »

Yes and no...

If we in the 1930s, a lot of the younger crowd would be in America, writing home to the older crowd once in a while, sending home a few dollars when they could... The older crowd would be wishing for a time when the younger crowd could be at home, and lamenting that they might never see their grandchildren...

That's what seemed to have happened a lot of the folks here in the 1930s anyways...

things prob haven't changed that much . america-Oz , writing - skype ect

Buford T. Justice XIX

welton john wrote: »

things prob haven't changed that much . america-Oz , writing - skype ect

Dock leaf , toilet paper:pac:

turbot

Effects wrote: »

Is that the guy who increased the value of his land by €40,000 by doing this?


Fairies don't exist. It's fine if you want to believe in them but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

At best you can claim, according to your senses and model of the World and evidence procedures, they do not exist.

But throughout rural Ireland, people tend to respect fairy forts and rag trees for good reason according to local knowledge. And throughout many cultures there are some people who believe in other worldy beings.

So you're being sloppy in your logic if you fail to qualify they don't exist "to you" because to some people, they are very real.