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The Newstalk reshuffle

  • 28-06-2016 10:31am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    This will answer many of the questions posed around here lately.

    So the new breakfast show lineup has been rolled out.
    http://www.newstalk.com/reader/47.301/76051/
    Newstalk’s political Editor Shane Coleman will be joined by TV3 news broadcaster Collette Fitzpatrick, INM’s Paul Williams and former Irish Rugby star Alan Quinlan to anchor the station’s new Breakfast Show.

    Doesn't appeal to me at all. I've no issue with Collette but misery guts Paul Williams is not someone I want to listen to every morning. Hard to see where Quinlan fits in?

    Pat gets 9 -12 and George gets a new 12-2pm show. Might take a few listeners from the News at 1? Might also gain a few listeners over the current lunchtime slot which doesn't really know what it should be.

    Sean 2-4 and the new drivetime show, 4 - 7, with Chris and Sarah McInerney, who I think is good.

    The next bit doesn't make sense,
    The Off the Ball team will be joining Chris and Sarah on a regular basis from 6:30pm, ahead of their own 7pm programme.
    Why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    This will answer many of the questions posed around here lately.

    So the new breakfast show lineup has been rolled out.
    http://www.newstalk.com/reader/47.301/76051/



    Doesn't appeal to me at all. I've no issue with Collette but misery guts Paul Williams is not someone I want to listen to every morning. Hard to see where Quinlan fits in?

    Pat gets 9 -12 and George gets a new 12-2pm show. Might take a few listeners from the News at 1? Might also gain a few listeners over the current lunchtime slot which doesn't really know what it should be.

    Sean 2-4 and the new drivetime show, 4 - 7, with Chris and Sarah McInerney, who I think is good.

    The next bit doesn't make sense, Why?

    Hook postponed his retirement then? I guess they gotta try something with Ivan leaving. Starting the drivetime at 4 should be a good move ratings-wise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    The spiel says it's the new Autumn schedule, so I dunno, is he just there in the afternoon until the winter, or as you say, a more long term thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭heybaby


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    This will answer many of the questions posed around here lately.

    So the new breakfast show lineup has been rolled out.
    http://www.newstalk.com/reader/47.301/76051/


    Doesn't appeal to me at all. I've no issue with Collette but misery guts Paul Williams is not someone I want to listen to every morning. Hard to see where Quinlan fits in?

    Pat gets 9 -12 and George gets a new 12-2pm show. Might take a few listeners from the News at 1? Might also gain a few listeners over the current lunchtime slot which doesn't really know what it should be.

    Sean 2-4 and the new drivetime show, 4 - 7, with Chris and Sarah McInerney, who I think is good.

    The next bit doesn't make sense, Why?

    Paul Williams and Alan Quinlan, dour dour dour. Quinlan is one of the dullest sporting commentators around.

    Off the ball starting earlier? Wasnt that What Eoin Mc devitt were looking for before they left, oh the irony.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    oh god I really dislike Colette on the radio and shane, think I'll bore myself to death on the drive to work with RTE (or save some of the off the ball podcasts for the drive).
    George at 12, I thought he was retiring?
    Has Jonathan Healy been sacked?

    I did a panel recently for Newstalk and it was questioning what people liked/disliked. He was very disliked in the panel I was on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Quintis


    Healy kicked to the curb?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    The spiel says it's the new Autumn schedule, so I dunno, is he just there in the afternoon until the winter, or as you say, a more long term thing?

    Maybe he balked at the idea of spending all day every day with the lovely Ingrid.:P If he's part of the big relaunch you'd imagine he intends to be there for a couple of years at least.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Looks like Quinlan will be taking over the sports anchor role. A real Morning Ireland feel to the line up now. I wonder what it means for Oisin Langan...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    heybaby wrote: »
    Off the ball starting earlier? Wasnt that What Eoin Mc devitt were looking for before they left, oh the irony.

    I dunno what that's about. Maybe it'll their normal 7-7:30 news roundup brought forward mixed in with the end of the drive time slot in order to, for want of a better word, dumb it down a bit. They're missing someone like Parkinson at the moment so it's all pretty stiff at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Odd changes and will be interesting to see how they do.

    I will miss the existing lunchtime format it's a nice catch up when it's on, replacing it with George is wrong as he is over the hill. I am still not convinced Chris is strong enough for such an important slot I hope his coanchor is decent.

    Just another reason for me to turn the dial away from newstalk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Quintis wrote: »
    Healy kicked to the curb?

    Maybe a weekend gig? Or just an on-the-beat reporter, I'd imagine he'd be okay at that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Off the Ball hasn't been cancelled, they're getting an additional 30 minutes from the drive time slot.

    Lots of people on twitter seem to be upset that Healy doesn't seem to be around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭buckfasterer


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Looks like Quinlan will be taking over the sports anchor role. A real Morning Ireland feel to the line up now. I wonder what it means for Oisin Langan...

    Hopefully.....he's.....gone......completely......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    Jonathan Healy will be able to do one of those emotive, hang-dog, "Barts people" type stories about himself.

    Dont like Colette Fitzpatrick and her Loose Women on the radio program.

    Great that George Hook is not retiring, would have loved if he'd taken over Moncreiff's full schedule.

    Kind of funny that OTB are now going to share the 6-7pm hour with the drive time show, given that that is the reason that the Second Captains guys left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Just a few thoughts...

    Breakfast
    Paul Williams? Really? Are NT expecting a crime wave or something? Because I've nver heard Williams talk about anything other than gangland and Veronica Guerin...
    Don't know much about Alan Quinlan, but does the show really need what would apear to be a dedicated "sports guy"?
    Collette and Coleman are decent enough presenters, no issues with either of them tbh. I would be concerned though that there'll be no "edge" to it. You need someone who's not afraid to play devil's advocate every now and then to make for interesting listening IMO.

    George
    I think what's probably happening here is George is still leaving as planned, so they wanted to launch their new drivetime show at the same time as the new Breakfast show, and as such Hook made way.

    Drivetime
    I like Chris on Breakfast (most of the time), so I'm happy to see he'll still be around. Don't really know Sarah McInerne, but I'll definitely be giving this a go. I'm not a big fan of CA at drivetime, I generally prefer to just throw on Eoghan McDermott as something light, but if this new show isn't just another dour Last Word / Drivetime show, I may stick around.

    OTB
    Their mention is very, very weird. I genuinely believe it's a snide "F*ck you guys!" to the Second Captains lads.


    Overall
    Has potential IMO. I have a feeling it won't work out, but I'm willing to give them a shot. A bit disappointed that Breakfast loses an hour. That 9-10 hour was perfect for allowing them to do more longform segments and interviews.


    Side note on Jonathan Healy, I reckon he'll be taking over as political editor from Shane Coleman. Probably wrong though. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Don't know much about Alan Quinlan, but does the show really need what would apear to be a dedicated "sports guy"?

    Maybe not a bad idea, if he builds up a bit of rapport with Coleman they can chat away when they need to fill time...

    They kind of have to take a chance on blooding new talent so I'll give him a go.

    Chris and Ivan had the yin and yang, afraid himself and Sarah will be just double yin...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Just a few thoughts...

    Breakfast
    Paul Williams? Really? Are NT expecting a crime wave or something? Because I've nver heard Williams talk about anything other than gangland and Veronica Guerin...
    Don't know much about Alan Quinlan, but does the show really need what would apear to be a dedicated "sports guy"?

    Williams has been doing this odd podcast the last while, hosted on the Indo, one of his most recent interviews was with Duffy, and I gather it was all about de gangs and de criminals. I think he's being used as the LCD for the show.

    As you say, I don't know why they need a dedicated sports guy for a breakfast show, if that's what he's there for. If he is, it could have potential if they do a sort of magazine slot, like profiles of lesser known Irish sports people and sports. Better than having him there for an hourly roundup. I think he has potential when he gets comfy with the medium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Two hours of Shane Coleman every morning? No thanks :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Maybe not a bad idea, if he builds up a bit of rapport with Coleman they can chat away when they need to fill time...

    Fair point. I guess I'm just wondering will they still have Oisin Langan or someone reading the sports bulletins, and then have Quinlan on during the hour, or will Quinlan do the current style 8:25 sports chat with the newsreader, or will Quinlan be the newsreader chatting to Coleman/Colette...

    We shall see I suppose. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Brother camping


    Good idea starting PK @ 9am, his ratings have been at a standstill for too longl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Nothing to listen to in the mornings now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭sheep?


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Just a few thoughts...
    Drivetime
    I like Chris on Breakfast (most of the time), so I'm happy to see he'll still be around. Don't really know Sarah McInerne, but I'll definitely be giving this a go. I'm not a big fan of CA at drivetime, I generally prefer to just throw on Eoghan McDermott as something light, but if this new show isn't just another dour Last Word / Drivetime show, I may stick around.

    I think she could be a bit of a dark horse. Seen her a few times on Vinnie B's show and she's intelligent and articulate. Should make a nice pairing with Chris.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    Im delighted with this revamp, especially as it means i dont have to hear chris donohue. I thought they would just replace Ivan with Coleman or something. Also George and Pat are on at times that suit me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10 AloisaAdolf


    Interesting changes. I feel Breakfast is doomed without Ivan. Don't think Williams cuts the mustard as a replacement (I'm guessing he's there to challenge the status quo based on the few times I've heard him talk current affairs but not a fan. He reminds me of Ian O'Doherty.). Not sure about Quinlan and I won't even start on Coleman and Fitz.

    If anyone can anchor a 3 hour show it's PK. Good decision.

    I doubt George will ever retire. That's a pretty solid five hours imo.

    Healy gone AT LAST. :)

    3 hours for Moncrieff was too long so no complaints here.

    Awful choice for drive. I suspect they think Chris is a lot more popular than he actually is. Also neither of them cross me as sports fans so I don't know how that will work. Strange decision.

    Hopefully OTB gets a bit of a shakeup too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    It's a very quick "promotion" for Paul williams, as a guy with really no other experience other than his podcast, which started fairly recently. But in all honesty, the podcast is just Paul Williams licking the .... boots of some of his media pals. The one with Joe Duffy is particularly nauseating.

    https://soundcloud.com/the-paul-williams-podcast

    Another risk is Sarah McInerney and Chris. Newstalk dont need more pleasant group thinkers, they need somebody who challenges the consensus. Having her on with Chris O'Donoghue will mean that nobody will challenge his left wing drivel. Not in the way that Yates did. And lets be honest any time Yates was away, the show with just Chris was poor.

    Similarly Colette Fitzpatrick and her feminist rants. Shane Coleman wont challenge her, as he's passive. He's a good broadcaster and the perfect fit for the Sunday show, but certainly not a "personality" that can carry the morning show like Ivan did.

    I would fear that the Newstalk left wing agenda will be further rammed down our throats without any independent thinker there to challenge them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    It's a very quick "promotion" for Paul williams, as a guy with really no other experience other than his podcast, which started fairly recently. But in all honesty, the podcast is just Paul Williams licking the .... boots of some of his media pals. The one with Joe Duffy is particularly nauseating.

    https://soundcloud.com/the-paul-williams-podcast



    I would fear that the Newstalk left wing agenda will be further rammed down our throats without any independent thinker there to challenge them.

    Except it doesn't have a left wing agenda and nothing is being rammed down your throat, you can always "move the dial".

    I'm pissed off the Moncrieff that has lost an hour, he deserved better than that. The morning show will tank, as will Chris Donoghue's new show - he definitely didn't deserve that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,737 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Looks like Quinlan will be taking over the sports anchor role. A real Morning Ireland feel to the line up now. I wonder what it means for Oisin Langan...

    Was wondering the same. Poor old Ush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    Except it doesn't have a left wing agenda and nothing is being rammed down your throat, you can always "move the dial".

    I'm pissed off the Moncrieff that has lost an hour, he deserved better than that. The morning show will tank, as will Chris Donoghue's new show - he definitely didn't deserve that.

    Personally, i think reducing Moncrieff to 2 hours is a good move. A more condensed show with less of the filler could be very good for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,737 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Will it be two hours of George pushing his life views on everyone?

    He's getting much worse at that, i think that might be podcast time for me.

    Glad there's more Pat Kenny show.

    Why more OTB?

    Is Tom Dunne as normal?

    Surprised I don't see more Bobby Kerr on there, they seem to be giving him more and more airtime.

    They better, and I mean better not f*ck with movies and booze.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭tommyhayes1989


    Really going to miss Ivan & Chris in the morning. Is he officially leaving Friday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    The morning show will tank, as will Chris Donoghue's new show - he definitely didn't deserve that.

    I do agree with you on this. I was thinking about why they have made such HUGE changes. I guess their hands are forced on the Hook/Yates issues so certain dramatic changes were going to be made whether they wanted them or not. But I'm baffled as to how they think that a bunch of broadcasting rookies with no real colour/personality/opinions can fill in for what was there, and why a fanfare was needed to bring us the news of they imminent arrival to our airwaves!

    Why didnt they just get Chris O'Donoghue and Shane Coleman to do alternate 24 hour shifts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭tommyhayes1989


    Agree. Really like Coleman and Chris. But they need someone in the corner playing devils advocate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    Will it be two hours of George pushing his life views on everyone?

    He's getting much worse at that, i think that might be podcast time for me.

    Glad there's more Pat Kenny show.

    Why more OTB?

    Is Tom Dunne as normal?

    Surprised I don't see more Bobby Kerr on there, they seem to be giving him more and more airtime.

    They better, and I mean better not f*ck with movies and booze.

    Sorry to be the one to break to you Donie, Tom has been gone from that slot for years.:p

    The Jonathan Healy show has been axed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I think he means Tom Dunnes current slot, after Off the Ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    I do agree with you on this. I was thinking about why they have made such HUGE changes. I guess their hands are forced on the Hook/Yates issues so certain dramatic changes were going to be made whether they wanted them or not. But I'm baffled as to how they think that a bunch of broadcasting rookies with no real colour/personality/opinions can fill in for what was there, and why a fanfare was needed to bring us the news of they imminent arrival to our airwaves!

    On second thoughts, Yates is only gone for a year. He will come back and rejoin Chris. He always wanted the drivetime slot. If/when he does return, that will work out fine. A Shane Coleman led breakfast show won't thought.

    Then again there isn't an obvious candidate out there to take over the show. Unless they poach someone else from RTE, but Pat Kenny hasn't worked as well as they expected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I would fear that the Newstalk left wing agenda will be further rammed down our throats without any independent thinker there to challenge them.

    'Left wing agenda' really? How? Who? 'Secular liberal' maybe, but no more so than everyone else these days IMO...Anyway I'm concerned to hear that you're strapped down and forced to listen to the station all day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Geroge Hook at lunchtime? Sweet Jesus.

    Don't think they ever properly replaced Eamon Keane in that slot personally. What was the reason behind his departure?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    Personally, i think reducing Moncrieff to 2 hours is a good move. A more condensed show with less of the filler could be very good for him.

    I'd take an hour of Sean filing over Hook's narcissism and Donoghue's incoherence any day


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Paul Williams?
    Whoy, whoy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I think Hook will suit the lunch time slot, as it is you have the business show before 7, then the breakfast show, then Kenny.

    Another topical current affairs type magazine is not needed at that time, you're already fed up with it all by that stage so a bit of light relief would work well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    OTB
    Their mention is very, very weird. I genuinely believe it's a snide "F*ck you guys!" to the Second Captains lads.

    They're hardly in a position to be doing that though.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    I was listening to David McWilliams on OTB the other day thinking I'd have liked to see him come back on board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    'Left wing agenda' really? How? Who? 'Secular liberal' maybe, but no more so than everyone else these days IMO...Anyway I'm concerned to hear that you're strapped down and forced to listen to the station all day...

    Sorry, liberal was what I meant to say. I would find that RTE have a better balance. They are less likely to ask loaded questions (like O'donoghue does) and tend to have a more balanced debate. A lot times you get the feeling that the Newstalk presenter is on the pro/con side of the argument for the topic that is being discussed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭heybaby


    They're hardly in a position to be doing that though.

    Just announced, Second Captains joining Radio 1 on Sunday mornings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    pc7 wrote: »
    I was listening to David McWilliams on OTB the other day thinking I'd have liked to see him come back on board.

    Lord jesus no way, he's awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    heybaby wrote: »
    Just announced, Second Captains joining Radio 1 on Sunday mornings.

    I thought you were taking the piss, but nope..
    http://www.hotpress.com/Second-Captains/news/RT-Radio-1-Announces-New-Series-of-Second-Captains/17563088.html


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    So they're taking an hour off Moncrieff, one of the best interviewers they have, who usually has very interesting topics and they are giving OTB an extra half hour on top of the three hours they already have to tell what's coming up on their show, it's the last time they should let someone in on work experience devise their schedule.

    What's the craic with George? All this fanfare about him leaving and he's staying after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,737 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    I'd take an hour of Sean filing over Hook's narcissism and Donoghue's incoherence every single day

    Changed that a little bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,737 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    The big questions are around what format the new shows with existing presenters will take.

    I love George, but I just don't have any interest in hearing him blather on about going back to mass/Trump's nonsense/Cyclists/school in Cork 60 years ago/his mother etc unchecked for 2 hours every day.

    Chris on drivetime? I'd have my reservations, to be honest.

    It strikes me a madness that the show that got reduced to accomodate more OTB is Moncrieff. Ask me bollix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    heybaby wrote: »
    Just announced, Second Captains joining Radio 1 on Sunday mornings.

    What's gonna happen to *cough cough cough* marian *cough* finucane.


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